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Where are they selling "live forever upgrades" these days? Cause I see the world's wealthiest still turn into fossils and die. You'd think they'd buy it if available ... Life extending technology will eventually be invented. But not for the next 100 years. I would consider looking up a digest of the progress on life extension at least every other year, starting now. There's a decent amount of buzz going on there, comparable to Bitcoin 10 years ago. The current "cutting edge" claims are a 50/50 chance for catching up to the aging escape velocity by 2040-50, and claims for minor rejuvenation (adding less years than you'd need to halt/reverse aging) by 2030ish. Cryopreservation is also becoming significantly cheaper, so that could be an option for people too old to make it to even 2050. Around the next rally a fraction of a Bitcoin could be enough for the cryopreservation part, and with a sensible portfolio you could "unfreeze" filthy rich whenever the technology is there. tl;dr We're virtually around the corner (relatively speaking). So anyone who feels like potentially being able to choose their point of death should do some digging. |
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February 17, 2019, 04:14:38 PM |
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Where are they selling "live forever upgrades" these days? Cause I see the world's wealthiest still turn into fossils and die. You'd think they'd buy it if available ... Life extending technology will eventually be invented. But not for the next 100 years. Life is too short don't worry about the next invention.  |
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February 17, 2019, 04:15:50 PM |
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Where are they selling "live forever upgrades" these days? Cause I see the world's wealthiest still turn into fossils and die. You'd think they'd buy it if available ... Life extending technology will eventually be invented. But not for the next 100 years. I would consider looking up a digest of the progress on life extension at least every other year, starting now. There's a decent amount of buzz going on there, comparable to Bitcoin 10 years ago. The current "cutting edge" claims are a 50/50 chance for catching up to the aging escape velocity by 2040-50, and claims for minor rejuvenation (adding less years than you'd need to halt/reverse aging) by 2030ish. Cryopreservation is also becoming significantly cheaper, so that could be an option for people too old to make it to even 2050. Around the next rally a fraction of a Bitcoin could be enough for the cryopreservation part, and with a sensible portfolio you could "unfreeze" filthy rich whenever the technology is there. tl;dr We're virtually around the corner (relatively speaking). So anyone who feels like potentially being able to choose their point of death should do some digging. Any new research about body transplants of "farmed" genetical clones? THAT would be the way to go. Maybe something already achieved in animals/rats? |
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February 17, 2019, 04:17:07 PM |
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Where are they selling "live forever upgrades" these days? Cause I see the world's wealthiest still turn into fossils and die. You'd think they'd buy it if available ... Wouldn't be so sure about that. First off, not everybody wants to live forever. Additionally to that, the only plausible shot for life extension right now is crypto-preservation, which isn't capable of re-animating humans yet. But that's not necessarily relevant as the probability of reanimating via that route is larger than zero. So with time, more people will be going that route even if reanimation hasn't been demonstrated yet. And once it's demonstrated in a mammal use will begin growing rapidly. But this entire process takes forever, just like people haven't jumped on the internet, Bitcoin, or any other technology in the early stages. Many people might not even be aware of the options either. Life extension has been attempted throughout all of human history with no success after all. So it's not at all surprising that rich people wouldn't have a team dedicated to keeping them informed about any progress happening there when there has been almost none that is tangible for people without a science background. |
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February 17, 2019, 04:23:17 PM |
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What do you do when the entire world is a rat's nest?
I become another rat #Adopt Then plan If you become Them, you don't want to fight Them any longer. I'd argue that you can more efficiently win fights by offering superior alternatives that people have no choice but to want to adopt. That way you also homogenize interests instead of splitting off into countless opposing groups that fight each other over whose delusion of life is the right one. They have only one choice: We win and you die, by any means necessary. |
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All these billionaires but barely anyone is investing in life extending technology. Those billions did Steve Jobs really good, he could of saved his own life by investing earlier but didn't.
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February 17, 2019, 04:25:04 PM |
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Where are they selling "live forever upgrades" these days? Cause I see the world's wealthiest still turn into fossils and die. You'd think they'd buy it if available ... Life extending technology will eventually be invented. But not for the next 100 years. I would consider looking up a digest of the progress on life extension at least every other year, starting now. There's a decent amount of buzz going on there, comparable to Bitcoin 10 years ago. The current "cutting edge" claims are a 50/50 chance for catching up to the aging escape velocity by 2040-50, and claims for minor rejuvenation (adding less years than you'd need to halt/reverse aging) by 2030ish. Cryopreservation is also becoming significantly cheaper, so that could be an option for people too old to make it to even 2050. Around the next rally a fraction of a Bitcoin could be enough for the cryopreservation part, and with a sensible portfolio you could "unfreeze" filthy rich whenever the technology is there. tl;dr We're virtually around the corner (relatively speaking). So anyone who feels like potentially being able to choose their point of death should do some digging. It is not physically possible to freeze humans and revive them at a later date. That is fantasy. |
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February 17, 2019, 04:26:59 PM |
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Where are they selling "live forever upgrades" these days? Cause I see the world's wealthiest still turn into fossils and die. You'd think they'd buy it if available ... Life extending technology will eventually be invented. But not for the next 100 years. I would consider looking up a digest of the progress on life extension at least every other year, starting now. There's a decent amount of buzz going on there, comparable to Bitcoin 10 years ago. The current "cutting edge" claims are a 50/50 chance for catching up to the aging escape velocity by 2040-50, and claims for minor rejuvenation (adding less years than you'd need to halt/reverse aging) by 2030ish. Cryopreservation is also becoming significantly cheaper, so that could be an option for people too old to make it to even 2050. Around the next rally a fraction of a Bitcoin could be enough for the cryopreservation part, and with a sensible portfolio you could "unfreeze" filthy rich whenever the technology is there. tl;dr We're virtually around the corner (relatively speaking). So anyone who feels like potentially being able to choose their point of death should do some digging. It is not physically possible to freeze humans and revive them at a later date. That is fantasy. Agreed. That's NOT the way to go. Sorry Hal. |
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February 17, 2019, 04:27:07 PM |
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Where are they selling "live forever upgrades" these days? Cause I see the world's wealthiest still turn into fossils and die. You'd think they'd buy it if available ... Life extending technology will eventually be invented. But not for the next 100 years. I would consider looking up a digest of the progress on life extension at least every other year, starting now. There's a decent amount of buzz going on there, comparable to Bitcoin 10 years ago. The current "cutting edge" claims are a 50/50 chance for catching up to the aging escape velocity by 2040-50, and claims for minor rejuvenation (adding less years than you'd need to halt/reverse aging) by 2030ish. Cryopreservation is also becoming significantly cheaper, so that could be an option for people too old to make it to even 2050. Around the next rally a fraction of a Bitcoin could be enough for the cryopreservation part, and with a sensible portfolio you could "unfreeze" filthy rich whenever the technology is there. tl;dr We're virtually around the corner (relatively speaking). So anyone who feels like potentially being able to choose their point of death should do some digging. Any new research about body transplants of genetical clones? THAT would be the way to go. Maybe something already achieved in animals/rats? There was a plan for the first ever human head transplant a year or so ago. But I don't think anything came from that, so I'm not sure if that actually happened or got delayed. There are a few different paths to this problem. One would be to continuously repair the effects of aging. And the other would be to stop aging entirely. The ways to achieve either of these include replacing the human body entirely (with a cloned biological body, artificial physical body, digital/mind upload), repairing the human body by reversing the effects of aging, or halting the effects of aging altogether. There is progress happening on all of these fronts. We have cloned organs, cloned animals. [Potential biological body replacements] Artificial limbs that can be mind controlled with actual sensorial feedback. [Artificial body replacements] Mind control of artificial and digital objects. [Mind upload] Different approaches with cells (senescent cells and senolytic drugs), genes (Crispr), blood shown to reverse some effects of aging in rats. [Reversing/halting the effects on a biological level] As time goes by these will become more sophisticated and probably result in multi-lateral approaches to dealing with aging. So far they're baby steps, but they're bound to compound exponentially over time. With more progress there comes more funding, with more funding more progress. Same old feedback loop. |
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February 17, 2019, 04:28:50 PM |
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Where are they selling "live forever upgrades" these days? Cause I see the world's wealthiest still turn into fossils and die. You'd think they'd buy it if available ... Life extending technology will eventually be invented. But not for the next 100 years. I would consider looking up a digest of the progress on life extension at least every other year, starting now. There's a decent amount of buzz going on there, comparable to Bitcoin 10 years ago. The current "cutting edge" claims are a 50/50 chance for catching up to the aging escape velocity by 2040-50, and claims for minor rejuvenation (adding less years than you'd need to halt/reverse aging) by 2030ish. Cryopreservation is also becoming significantly cheaper, so that could be an option for people too old to make it to even 2050. Around the next rally a fraction of a Bitcoin could be enough for the cryopreservation part, and with a sensible portfolio you could "unfreeze" filthy rich whenever the technology is there. tl;dr We're virtually around the corner (relatively speaking). So anyone who feels like potentially being able to choose their point of death should do some digging. It is not physically possible to freeze humans and revive them at a later date. That is fantasy. What evidence do you have to make such claim? I've found none. Unless you'd like to revise your statement to "you can't currently revive frozen humans". |
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February 17, 2019, 04:29:58 PM |
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Where are they selling "live forever upgrades" these days? Cause I see the world's wealthiest still turn into fossils and die. You'd think they'd buy it if available ... Life extending technology will eventually be invented. But not for the next 100 years. I would consider looking up a digest of the progress on life extension at least every other year, starting now. There's a decent amount of buzz going on there, comparable to Bitcoin 10 years ago. The current "cutting edge" claims are a 50/50 chance for catching up to the aging escape velocity by 2040-50, and claims for minor rejuvenation (adding less years than you'd need to halt/reverse aging) by 2030ish. Cryopreservation is also becoming significantly cheaper, so that could be an option for people too old to make it to even 2050. Around the next rally a fraction of a Bitcoin could be enough for the cryopreservation part, and with a sensible portfolio you could "unfreeze" filthy rich whenever the technology is there. tl;dr We're virtually around the corner (relatively speaking). So anyone who feels like potentially being able to choose their point of death should do some digging. It is not physically possible to freeze humans and revive them at a later date. That is fantasy. What qualifications do you have to make such claim? I've found no evidence for it. Unless you'd like to revise your statement to "you can't currently revive frozen humans". Water turns into ice when it freezes. Yes that is all there is to be said on the topic. Don't even bother. |
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February 17, 2019, 04:30:18 PM |
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All these billionaires but barely anyone is investing in life extending technology. Those billions did Steve Jobs really good, he could of saved his own life by investing earlier but didn't.
You can extend your life by yourself for free. If you eat healthy food, avoid smoking&alcohol, do exercises, use condoms etc... I am sure you can extend your life at least 5 years. I did some of those harmful stuff in the past and I stopped doing some of them like smoking. Sure you'll never know when a cancer is going to occupy your anus but you can reduce chances. I recently watched a doctor on TV and he was saying that people have many diseases like cancer since the day they were born. This is in your DNA. The cancer develops slowly through the years but it is your actions which make it visible (or develop faster) before the day it was going to. |
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February 17, 2019, 04:31:57 PM |
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Where are they selling "live forever upgrades" these days? Cause I see the world's wealthiest still turn into fossils and die. You'd think they'd buy it if available ... Life extending technology will eventually be invented. But not for the next 100 years. I would consider looking up a digest of the progress on life extension at least every other year, starting now. There's a decent amount of buzz going on there, comparable to Bitcoin 10 years ago. The current "cutting edge" claims are a 50/50 chance for catching up to the aging escape velocity by 2040-50, and claims for minor rejuvenation (adding less years than you'd need to halt/reverse aging) by 2030ish. Cryopreservation is also becoming significantly cheaper, so that could be an option for people too old to make it to even 2050. Around the next rally a fraction of a Bitcoin could be enough for the cryopreservation part, and with a sensible portfolio you could "unfreeze" filthy rich whenever the technology is there. tl;dr We're virtually around the corner (relatively speaking). So anyone who feels like potentially being able to choose their point of death should do some digging. It is not physically possible to freeze humans and revive them at a later date. That is fantasy. What qualifications do you have to make such claim? I've found no evidence for it. Unless you'd like to revise your statement to "you can't currently revive frozen humans". Water turns into ice when it freezes. Yes that is all there is to be said on the topic. Don't even bother. Non-argument. Assumes that damage won't be repairable in the future based on incomplete knowledge of pretty much everything. |
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February 17, 2019, 04:32:59 PM |
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Bit worried about the Mayor and Quadrigacx
Oh yeah... hadn't thought about that possible connection. By the way, it is funny that we have not had many members of this thread asserting that they lost money in Quadrigacx. Somehow I feel goaded into a reply: There's nothing funny about it and we won't be certain how much money we have lost (assertions will be difficult) until the legal process is complete and from my perspective it is mildly embarrassing - I can only imagine how others feel. There is a modicum of hope that some money will be recovered though with all the lawyers and bean-counters involved, any amounts of cash and/or coin recovered is dwindling as they take their pound of flesh for services rendered. I stand to lose some (or all) of the CAD I have on the QuadrigaCX exchange but thanks to jbreher for reminding me about the proof of keys, I transferred the Bitcoin held on QuadrigaCX back to my local wallets on Dec. 31st. It's disheartening but nothing new in Bitcoin. I've been screwed by Butterfly Labs on ASIC purchases, screwed by KNC miner who had my money for nearly a year without delivering my mining device or refunding my money(Bitcoin), I've been screwed out of funds when BTC-TC got shaken down by the SEC, screwed out of funds by creativex when he disappeared with investor funds from our mining operation bASIC Mining, screwed by ASICMiner (friedcat) when they went tits up and he disappeared after moving the shares from BTC-TC to Havelock Investments, slightly screwed over by AMHash (which may or may not have been mining at all), nearly screwed by Cryptsy though I never kept much on there as it was only used for exchanging my mined altcoin for Bitcoin, I had set up an account on GOX but never put money or coins in it fortunately, I've even been screwed on a coffee purchase using Bitcoin here on the forum. Fuck. Any normal person probably would have quit Bitcoin by now but I guess I'm a glutton for punishment. I know you like percentages JJG so I'll give you two. My CAD on deposit with QuadrigaCX (which I stand to lose) is ~300% of my total investment in Bitcoin or ~7% of the money I spent on cigarettes when I was young(er) and foolish(er). |
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February 17, 2019, 04:33:14 PM |
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Where are they selling "live forever upgrades" these days? Cause I see the world's wealthiest still turn into fossils and die. You'd think they'd buy it if available ... Life extending technology will eventually be invented. But not for the next 100 years. I would consider looking up a digest of the progress on life extension at least every other year, starting now. There's a decent amount of buzz going on there, comparable to Bitcoin 10 years ago. The current "cutting edge" claims are a 50/50 chance for catching up to the aging escape velocity by 2040-50, and claims for minor rejuvenation (adding less years than you'd need to halt/reverse aging) by 2030ish. Cryopreservation is also becoming significantly cheaper, so that could be an option for people too old to make it to even 2050. Around the next rally a fraction of a Bitcoin could be enough for the cryopreservation part, and with a sensible portfolio you could "unfreeze" filthy rich whenever the technology is there. tl;dr We're virtually around the corner (relatively speaking). So anyone who feels like potentially being able to choose their point of death should do some digging. Any new research about body transplants of genetical clones? THAT would be the way to go. Maybe something already achieved in animals/rats? There was a plan for the first ever human head transplant a year or so ago. But I don't think anything came from that, so I'm not sure if that actually happened or got delayed. There are a few different paths to this problem. One would be to continuously repair the effects of aging. And the other would be to stop aging entirely. The ways to achieve either of these include replacing the human body entirely (with a cloned biological body, artificial physical body, digital/mind upload), repairing the human body by reversing the effects of aging, or halting the effects of aging altogether. There is progress happening on all of these fronts. We have cloned organs, cloned animals. [Potential biological body replacements] Artificial limbs that can be mind controlled with actual sensorial feedback. [Artificial body replacements] Mind control of artificial and digital objects. [Mind upload] Different approaches with cells (senescent cells and senolytic drugs), genes (Crispr), blood shown to reverse some effects of aging in rats. [Reversing/halting the effects on a biological level] As time goes by these will become more sophisticated and probably result in multi-lateral approaches to dealing with aging. So far they're baby steps, but they're bound to compound exponentially over time. With more progress there comes more funding, with more funding more progress. Same old feedback loop. Actually age is degradation in the cells. When you are younger they regenerate fine. The challenge is to halt or reverse this degradation. I believe there are current successful studies, stimulating the repair function back into order. |
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February 17, 2019, 04:36:58 PM |
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Actually age is degradation in the cells.
When you are younger they regenerate fine.
The challenge is to halt or reverse this degradation.
I believe there are current successful studies, stimulating the repair function back into order.
That's the whole "senescent cells" approach. Basically tries to kill senescent cells (cells that stop dividing) which accumulate with age. Human trials are starting this year by the way. |
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February 17, 2019, 04:39:37 PM |
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Where are they selling "live forever upgrades" these days? Cause I see the world's wealthiest still turn into fossils and die. You'd think they'd buy it if available ... Life extending technology will eventually be invented. But not for the next 100 years. I would consider looking up a digest of the progress on life extension at least every other year, starting now. There's a decent amount of buzz going on there, comparable to Bitcoin 10 years ago. The current "cutting edge" claims are a 50/50 chance for catching up to the aging escape velocity by 2040-50, and claims for minor rejuvenation (adding less years than you'd need to halt/reverse aging) by 2030ish. Cryopreservation is also becoming significantly cheaper, so that could be an option for people too old to make it to even 2050. Around the next rally a fraction of a Bitcoin could be enough for the cryopreservation part, and with a sensible portfolio you could "unfreeze" filthy rich whenever the technology is there. tl;dr We're virtually around the corner (relatively speaking). So anyone who feels like potentially being able to choose their point of death should do some digging. Any new research about body transplants of genetical clones? THAT would be the way to go. Maybe something already achieved in animals/rats? There was a plan for the first ever human head transplant a year or so ago. But I don't think anything came from that, so I'm not sure if that actually happened or got delayed. There are a few different paths to this problem. One would be to continuously repair the effects of aging. And the other would be to stop aging entirely. The ways to achieve either of these include replacing the human body entirely (with a cloned biological body, artificial physical body, digital/mind upload), repairing the human body by reversing the effects of aging, or halting the effects of aging altogether. There is progress happening on all of these fronts. We have cloned organs, cloned animals. [Potential biological body replacements] Artificial limbs that can be mind controlled with actual sensorial feedback. [Artificial body replacements] Mind control of artificial and digital objects. [Mind upload] Different approaches with cells (senescent cells and senolytic drugs), genes (Crispr), blood shown to reverse some effects of aging in rats. [Reversing/halting the effects on a biological level] As time goes by these will become more sophisticated and probably result in multi-lateral approaches to dealing with aging. So far they're baby steps, but they're bound to compound exponentially over time. With more progress there comes more funding, with more funding more progress. Same old feedback loop. The problem with the full body transplant is mainly making the neural reconnections. Once that solved most the way ahead is clear. Nanotech, microsurgery, automation, etc... advances in those fields maybe could lead to that. But I thought maybe some "crude" experiment with moderate success could have already been made in animals. It seems not. Digital mind/upload is another way I don't think is viable as a life extending alternative. I mean, you could end with a similar person but it would just be a copy, not me, not my conscience of being me.... if it was even possible anyways. Reversing/halting the effects of aging also sound like sci-fi at this time. More so the reversing part of it. It's the full body transplant the only thing I could consider viable even if the tech to carry it is still way far. |
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February 17, 2019, 04:42:32 PM |
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Where are they selling "live forever upgrades" these days? Cause I see the world's wealthiest still turn into fossils and die. You'd think they'd buy it if available ... Life extending technology will eventually be invented. But not for the next 100 years. I would consider looking up a digest of the progress on life extension at least every other year, starting now. There's a decent amount of buzz going on there, comparable to Bitcoin 10 years ago. The current "cutting edge" claims are a 50/50 chance for catching up to the aging escape velocity by 2040-50, and claims for minor rejuvenation (adding less years than you'd need to halt/reverse aging) by 2030ish. Cryopreservation is also becoming significantly cheaper, so that could be an option for people too old to make it to even 2050. Around the next rally a fraction of a Bitcoin could be enough for the cryopreservation part, and with a sensible portfolio you could "unfreeze" filthy rich whenever the technology is there. tl;dr We're virtually around the corner (relatively speaking). So anyone who feels like potentially being able to choose their point of death should do some digging. It is not physically possible to freeze humans and revive them at a later date. That is fantasy. What qualifications do you have to make such claim? I've found no evidence for it. Unless you'd like to revise your statement to "you can't currently revive frozen humans". Water turns into ice when it freezes. Yes that is all there is to be said on the topic. Don't even bother. Non-argument. Assumes that damage won't be repairable in the future based on incomplete knowledge of pretty much everything. The damage is too much. We are talking about irreparable "data-loss" damage here. You can't repair what is already gone. In the future, you could probably farm a genetical clone from the available DNA but the brain is fucked up. |
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February 17, 2019, 04:43:15 PM |
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Have any of you been under the gentle care of the medical system in the past few years, incidentally?
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February 17, 2019, 04:43:31 PM |
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The only thing that really extends life a significant amount is fasting. You can take any living creature and restrict the amount of calories it intakes and it will live much longer.
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