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Question: Is the "bear market" over?
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https://www.crypto-news.in/explainer/bitcoin-explainer/paul-le-roux-yet-another-satoshi-candidate/

"There are users on online cryptocurrency forums and message boards who theorise, Craig Wright may have been involved with Paul Le Roux from the day he started working on Bitcoin project. Wright became a snitch to US government leading to arrest of Paul Le Roux and used his friendship with Dave Kleiman to steal a hard disk of Le Roux which contains more than one million bitcoins which he has been using as basis to support his claims behind the identity of Satoshi Nakamoto.
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There was also an anonymous user who theorised that Craig Wright’s hard dish with one million Bitcoin is actually hard disk stolen from Le Roux which was encrypted using his True Crypto software preventing Wright from accessing the bitcoins stored inside. The user also suggested that Calvin Ayre’s mining warehouse is just a front to hide true function of massive data centers which Calvin and Wright have so far been using to attempt decryption of true crypt volumes to plunder the bitcoins but have met with little success. "

Intriguing...

Assuming the above is true, they won't have much success, as TrueCrypt is a tough nut to crack. If Paul Le Roux has used it properly (i.e., using a cryptographically strong passphrase and/or nested encryption algorithms) it will take centuries for them to brute-force it open.

But... If Paul Le Roux was not very careful in choosing a strong passphrase, then there may be a good chance that they succeed. Craig Wright would then be able to sign as Nakamoto and would have the proof he needs. He could also dump those million BTC and cause havoc...

I really hope they end up like this:



Doesn't matter. By Craig's own words, possession doesn't mean ownership:


found this at his blog.
https://craigwright.net/blog/bitcoin-blockchain-tech/shades-of-black/

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Possession of a key is not evidence of ownership. It was never the intent of Bitcoin. It is the intent of people like Greg Maxwell, James Donald, and others who seek a system that acts outside the law. If you have a stolen asset, possession doesn’t make it yours. It applies to Bitcoin equally. If bitcoin is stolen through stolen keys, they do not give the receiver ownership. They do not act as proof. In monetary law, money is fungible and transferable only when it is exchanged without knowledge of fraud or malpractice and for good consideration. It is critical. To be money, Bitcoin does not rely on the mere possession of keys, which is the aim and desire of those seeking a new version of Liberty Reserve coin or e-gold. There are some who will tell you that the mere possession of a key is definitive evidence. They are avoiding the rules of evidence and courts, and seek to alter their nature.

sure sounds like a blacklisting of some sort. some coins will not be allowed to move via private key when some criteria/law is broken.

perhaps im misunderstanding. i seek clarity.

Soooooo.......



Makes you wonder what that does to a man's ego..

Claim to be the creator..the worlds expert...yet unable to build a good enough sieve.

If they have been searching for collisions all this time and not found one, its quiet the testament to bitcoins security imo...or at least truecrypts.

#BuidlaBetterSieve


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Good morning folks.

More consolidation around $8.2k seems to be on the menu today. Books are paper thin so I would expect a bit of volatility thrown in for good measure.

#dyor

1h


4h

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May 31, 2019, 06:38:47 PM
Last edit: May 31, 2019, 06:50:51 PM by fillippone

Made it to Madrid. Hopefully tomorrow is one of the best nights of my life.

Settling down in the hotel with of course - Sangria.

I will share some pics of my experiences tomorrow fellow HODLERS!

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Damn man as you posted that.... I was ready to start gritt strenght..... yeah I know what a dirty ass floor, good the owners are about to change it this summer!

Good news is i’m broken AF and its finished now ... but a coiner must be in shape ad all time!!!!!

Going for a wine and early morning taking of to Spain as well, destination still unknown for me, my GF booked it
As a surprise, looking forward for a few days of rest and peace Cheesy

Surprise!
You girlfriend is taking you to Madrid to the CL final and you end up at the Wanda, sitting next to LFC!
Because, you know, girlfriend knows what Mic likes the most!
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May 31, 2019, 06:53:27 PM

I doubt that.... Cause already long time booked and the final was unknown Then....

I think it Will be highly culinair....
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May 31, 2019, 06:58:27 PM

Bitcoins never die RIP bears
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May 31, 2019, 07:07:08 PM

Sideways for six months ugh.
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May 31, 2019, 07:21:33 PM

Sideways for six months ugh.


puh-lease...its not all that bad.

Not even a full month into the Golden Cross..   

I am going to have to insist that you engage in remedial plate work immediately.

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If BSV was a scam, why would
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 invest $300 Million dollars into mining equipment that loses all its value in less than 2 years?

That’s $300 000 000. Take just 2 seconds to think about it.

Open your eyes people, the  train is full steam ahead, so get on board!

Open *my* eyes???

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May 31, 2019, 07:53:43 PM
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If BSV was a scam, why would
@CalvinAyre
 invest $300 Million dollars into mining equipment that loses all its value in less than 2 years?

That’s $300 000 000. Take just 2 seconds to think about it.

Open your eyes people, the  train is full steam ahead, so get on board!

Open *my* eyes???



Nicely put, or alternatively:
www.howmanyconfs.com

ShitcoinSV is 44x less secure than bitcoin.


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May 31, 2019, 07:58:24 PM

If BSV was a scam, why would
@CalvinAyre
 invest $300 Million dollars into mining equipment that loses all its value in less than 2 years?

That’s $300 000 000. Take just 2 seconds to think about it.

Open your eyes people, the  train is full steam ahead, so get on board!

Open *my* eyes???



Nicely put, or alternatively:
www.howmanyconfs.com

ShitcoinSV is 44x less secure than bitcoin.



Please somebody explain me why forum owners/managers/devs won't fix that image issue? I feel I'm back in 1995 every time I try to add an image to my posts.... that's why I do it so rarely... cmon it's 2019 there should be a way to do it in 1 click...  Angry

P.S. Post author fixed the image while I was typing this  Grin
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300 million buys ~100,000 s17 pros https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5138318.msg51287657#msg51287657 if you could get that many, with some discount
50 Th/s x 100,000 = 5 million T = 5 exahash
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P.S. Post author fixed the image while I was typing this  Grin

Fillippone black belt in quick mobile post editing.
Quicker than sarcasm.
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300 million buys ~100,000 s17 pros https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5138318.msg51287657#msg51287657 if you could get that many, with some discount
50 Th/s x 100,000 = 5 million T = 5 exahash


Speaking of sieves...


Do you think thats cheaper than building 20 million 'noisy' qubits?


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fyi last I'd heard we were in the 2,000 qubit range just to give some perspective.



"How to factor 2048 bit RSA integers in 8 hours using 20 million noisy qubits"

https://arxiv.org/pdf/1905.09749.pdf

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We significantly reduce the cost of factoring integers and computing discrete logarithms over finite fields on a quantum computer by combining techniques from Griffiths-Niu 1996, Zalka 2006, Fowler 2012, Eker ̊a-H ̊astad 2017, Eker ̊a 2017, Eker ̊a 2018, Gidney-Fowler 2019, Gidney 2019.  We estimate the approximate cost of our construction using plausible physical assumptions for large-scale superconducting qubit platforms:  a planar grid of qubits with nearest-neighbor connectivity,a characteristic physical gate error rate of 10−3, a surface code cycle time of 1 microsecond, and a reaction time of 10 microseconds. We account for factors that are normally ignored such as noise, the need to make repeated attempts, and the spacetime layout of the computation.  When factoring 2048 bit RSA integers, our construction’s spacetime volume is a hundredfold less than comparable estimates from earlier works (Fowler et al. 2012, Gheorghiu et al. 2019). In the abstract circuit model (which ignores overheads from distillation, routing, and error correction) our construction uses 3n+ 0.002n lg n logical qubits, 0.3n3 + 0.0005n3 lg n Toffolis, and 500n2 + n2 lg n measurement depth to factor n-bit RSA integers.  We quantify the cryptographic implications of our work, both for RSA and for schemes based on the DLP in finite fields.
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Poll results indicate that we have 41 communist nocoiners.  Undecided



...and we have a new poll as suggested by a threadgoer.
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Poll results indicate that we have 41 communist nocoiners.  Undecided

...and we have a new poll as suggested by a threadgoer.

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New poll... finally something makes sense. (didn't vote bacon crap)

%20-40 is where I am right now. (north of 30)

I wish I had more but it is still better than most people i imagine.

btw that number constantly changes, it is %57 when btc hits $20k, and becomes %25 when btc is at $5k. :/

Probably makes sense to unload some when it is more than %80.

edit: aaand %80+ voters arrived. Looks like I am the nocoiner.
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Is there some tool or website that shows dates when this years new high are being captured?
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^^Indeed bosses are arriving Roll Eyes Tongue
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May 31, 2019, 09:08:11 PM

New poll... finally something makes sense. (didn't vote bacon crap)

%20-40 is where I am right now. (north of 30)

I wish I had more but it is still better than most people i imagine.

btw that number constantly changes, it is %57 when btc hits $20k, and becomes %25 when btc is at $5k. :/

Probably makes sense to unload some when it is more than %80.

edit: aaand %80+ voters arrived. Looks like I am the nocoiner.
I would be very careful disclosing those information.
Some smart people with some tracking and educated guesses can figure out your crypto asset stash size.
When bitcoin will be worth millions, that could harm you.
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the fucking state of 'academic' science today Roll Eyes
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May 31, 2019, 09:12:01 PM

Corn is now above $8500 again. Let's cross (and break) Vegeta's power scouter!

New poll... finally something makes sense.

Agreed.

Is this 8K going places??, me one bottle of rosè split in two and a small aperitif.... already catching stars, F*** need to make my bag for tomorrow Roll Eyes
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