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[fabiorem]

Well....

1) I dunno. The pervasive narrative in this here space is that everything out of Craig's mouth is either: a lie, or; simply wrong. As such, how could anything he say undermine the legitimacy of the sector?
OTOH, if he has the capability to carry out such a threat, how would his huge advance warning not be a good thing?

2) I dunno again. Before vanishing, Satoshi revealed very little of his personal proclivities. I see no evidence therein to support the notion that he might not use his substantial war chest in order to tilt the market in favor of what he perceives as the more faithful rendition of his ideals. What exactly am I missing in his writings?

But if he crashes the market, BSV will also go down with it.

My guess is that he wants people to have some doubt and hedge in BSV just in case he crashes the market. But their fork war with BCH brought every coin down, including BSV.

[fillippone]

https://twitter.com/100trillionUSD/status/1133388321563062275

The moon is very close, we are going to go much further.

Plan B stroke another good one!

But there is more: what if the more mainstream adoption and the presence of more "institutional money", more keen to "efficient markets" (à la Fama) drives up the markets in anticipations of the halving and the subsequent stock to flow reduction? Price used to rise sharply after the halvening, reacting to this and not actually anticipating it. What if this time is different?



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I don't like to comment too much in the current price of BTC, but the sentiment is turning more and more bullish, and I think this kind of analysis is perfectly consistent with an anticipation of the halvening.
Market doesn't like discontinuities, and so tends to anticipate drastic moves or changes in the protocol.
If had could move a critic to Satoshi for his whitepaper, I would say the choice of discrete halvening is not optimal, while a more smooth reduction of coinbase would have been better implementation, at a cost of a slightly less trivial implementation.

The market, as you say, is optimistic, but there will be correction as always from the maximum, where is the maximum?
Well, my forecast is that we're going to get to 10,000 and then we'll see what happens, obviously I can be wrong, but that's the next trip.
As for PlanB, I like your presentations, but as you comment, there are many variables at play.

Of course this is a trend, so deviation from the trend are always possible su to “overreactions” of the market.
Good thing is in the past overshoot has been 3x model values, and never below 50% model value. So actually overshoot are more pronounced on the upside!

[Cryptotourist]

1) I dunno. The pervasive narrative in this here space is that everything out of Craig's mouth is either: a lie, or; simply wrong. As such, how could anything he say undermine the legitimacy of the sector?

You forgot to mention fraud & plagiarism.

OTOH, if he has the capability to carry out such a threat, how would his huge advance warning not be a good thing?

Advantage my ass, it's just FUD.

2) I dunno again. Before vanishing, Satoshi revealed very little of his personal proclivities. I see no evidence therein to support the notion that he might not use his substantial war chest in order to tilt the market in favor of what he perceives as the more faithful rendition of his ideals. What exactly am I missing in his writings?

Fuck his writings, check out his videos & ..... admire the clown.

[fillippone]

anyone got that link to a site that shows btctalk user stats? I saw it a while back but cant find it now

Ddmrddmr Merit Dashboard

[g-uid]

bitcoin to 50k in 2019
anyone against that?

Screw it, I'll open myself up to some haters: I just offloaded 50% of my portfolio. Can't shake what r0ach has been saying recently, he makes a lot of sense when it comes to manipulation. The rapid increase over the last few weeks just doesn't feel right. It's too fast and money (whatever you feel that may be) just isn't supposed to be this easy.

[LFC_Bitcoin]

bitcoin to 50k in 2019
anyone against that?

Screw it, I'll open myself up to some haters: I just offloaded 50% of my portfolio. Can't shake what r0ach has been saying recently, he makes a lot of sense when it comes to manipulation. The rapid increase over the last few weeks just doesn't feel right. It's too fast and money (whatever you feel that may be) just isn't supposed to be this easy.

r0ach sold all his bitcoin’s at 3 figures, he’s literally THE worst person here to listen to regarding an exit/sell point.

You’ve been registered here since 2014, you should know how bitcoin works post halving. You’ve massively let yourself down here imo.

You’ll live to regret selling way too soon.

[Ibian]

Why does he keep changing the threat of what he's gonna do in 2 weeks?

Been about a year now of gonna be 2 weeks until I do x, worn thin.

Aside of  Calvin who is still listening?

Listening to who?

[Ibian]

Found this on Reddit

Called, Animals Are Evil

https://www.reddit.com/r/cryptocurrencymemes/comments/bszh91/animals_are_evil/

EAT ALL THE ANIMALS!

[Ibian]

Guys life is so much simpler when you don't give a shit about 99% of what anyone says. Guy defaming you on some forum? Guy pretending to be Satoshi? Guy pretending he will manipulate the market like SO unless you do Y? Fuggit all. Get drunk and hodl.

[jonoiv]

bitcoin to 50k in 2019
anyone against that?

Screw it, I'll open myself up to some haters: I just offloaded 50% of my portfolio. Can't shake what r0ach has been saying recently, he makes a lot of sense when it comes to manipulation. The rapid increase over the last few weeks just doesn't feel right. It's too fast and money (whatever you feel that may be) just isn't supposed to be this easy.

I think just below $2500 will be the bottom personally.  and it will happen arround oct / nov 2019

This looks like an elliotwave phase B bear rally, I fully expect people to call me out as usual.  But I will, and have put my money where my mouth is

I really don't care what JJG has to say on the matter or any other person.  im happy to be quoted in November.  

[d_eddie]

What exactly am I missing in his writings?

Intellectual honesty while reading them.

EDIT 2k posts!

[HairyMaclairy]

bitcoin to 50k in 2019
anyone against that?

Screw it, I'll open myself up to some haters: I just offloaded 50% of my portfolio. Can't shake what r0ach has been saying recently, he makes a lot of sense when it comes to manipulation. The rapid increase over the last few weeks just doesn't feel right. It's too fast and money (whatever you feel that may be) just isn't supposed to be this easy.

Hahahahahaha

[g-uid]

bitcoin to 50k in 2019
anyone against that?

Screw it, I'll open myself up to some haters: I just offloaded 50% of my portfolio. Can't shake what r0ach has been saying recently, he makes a lot of sense when it comes to manipulation. The rapid increase over the last few weeks just doesn't feel right. It's too fast and money (whatever you feel that may be) just isn't supposed to be this easy.

I think just below $2500 will be the bottom personally.  and it will happen arround oct / nov 2019

This looks like an elliotwave phase B bear rally, I fully expect people to call me out as usual.  But I will, and have put my money where my mouth is

I really don't care what JJG has to say on the matter or any other person.  im happy to be quoted in November.  

100% agree. $2500 feels right, I know there's no place in this space for touchy feely jibber jabber but it has served me pretty well over the last 9 years.

Will add some more fuel into the fire, r0ach is going to love this: I bought gold.

[d_eddie]

jonoiv and g-uid, you'll be sorry. I foresee you submerged by a shower of ratt's asses and GTFO's. 

[FractalUniverse]

Will add some more fuel into the fire, r0ach is going to love this: I bought gold.

yeah, we know. in 2011 or 12, near the top  

[g-uid]

jonoiv and g-uid, you'll be sorry. I foresee you submerged by a shower of ratt's asses and GTFO's. 

I know ;( It's all par for the course though so have it gents!

[jbreher]

Well....

1) I dunno. The pervasive narrative in this here space is that everything out of Craig's mouth is either: a lie, or; simply wrong. As such, how could anything he say undermine the legitimacy of the sector?
OTOH, if he has the capability to carry out such a threat, how would his huge advance warning not be a good thing?

2) I dunno again. Before vanishing, Satoshi revealed very little of his personal proclivities. I see no evidence therein to support the notion that he might not use his substantial war chest in order to tilt the market in favor of what he perceives as the more faithful rendition of his ideals. What exactly am I missing in his writings?

But if he crashes the market, BSV will also go down with it.

I have frequently heard this narrative. I have yet to see any convincing evidence that there is any truth to it. How about you sell me on the idea?

My guess is that he wants people to have some doubt and hedge in BSV just in case he crashes the market. But their fork war with BCH brought every coin down, including BSV.

It did for some time, aye. But has of late been rebounding nicely (which admittedly may be at least in part due to very publicized irrelevancies - I make no claim of proportion here). He may be playing a longer game. Aren't we hodlers supposed to be all about the deferred gratification?

[Ibian]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yc6Hp_Zq3rU

Anti-eu six years ago. This is 90% of the reason bitcoin is even known to more than a hundred or so people. Never forget.

[jbreher]

Seems in your hurry to dismiss what I wrote, you forgot to actually read it. Play by play to follow:

1) I dunno. The pervasive narrative in this here space is that everything out of Craig's mouth is either: a lie, or; simply wrong. As such, how could anything he say undermine the legitimacy of the sector?

You forgot to mention fraud & plagiarism.

My use of the term 'lie' covers that adequately.

Incidentally, I note you have not answered the explicit question.

OTOH, if he has the capability to carry out such a threat, how would his huge advance warning not be a good thing?

Advantage my ass, it's just FUD.

"Advantage"? WTF are you typing about?

Incidentally, I note you have not answered the explicit question.

2) I dunno again. Before vanishing, Satoshi revealed very little of his personal proclivities. I see no evidence therein to support the notion that he might not use his substantial war chest in order to tilt the market in favor of what he perceives as the more faithful rendition of his ideals. What exactly am I missing in his writings?

Fuck his writings, check out his videos & ..... admire the clown.

Fuck Satoshi's writing's? Interesting swerve. "check out his videos & ..... admire the clown"? I was not aware Satoshi ever communicated via videos. That must be what I'm missing. Care to point me to them?

[jonoiv]

jonoiv and g-uid, you'll be sorry. I foresee you submerged by a shower of ratt's asses and GTFO's. 

Im not sure there will be too many... 

And if there are, they propbably won't quote the prediction, because that's the way it works on the WO thread.