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August 08, 2019, 06:16:52 PM

Update, As promised.

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08/08/19  Other Credit  ACH DEPOSIT
PAXOS TRUS 

It took just under 2 days.

I had to transfer btc and sell it for their stablecoin and then immediately withdraw their  stablecoin to my bank. Only cost was the Stablecoin exchange fee which was about a buck and a half for a 500 dollar transaction.

So in essence it looks like paxos is legit at least for small amounts.

The KYC was pretty unintrusive as in no personal questions just my info with a photo of me holding my ID that actually took a day as I had to redo the slfie with ID as they have to be able to read the ID in your hand.

All in all a painless process without the Personal Data Harvesting questions Kraken and Coinbase require.

How do you withdraw a stable coin to your bank?  Do you mean a wallet?

What makes you confident this isn’t fractional reserve banking ?
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At the mere cost of counterparty risk.

Yup, I pointed that out last time he was mentioning it.



How do you withdraw a stable coin to your bank?  Do you mean a wallet?

What makes you confident this isn’t fractional reserve banking ?

Well apparently they are licensed and monitored by the New York Department of Financial Services which is brutal to get so that adds confidence and no-one can ever tell if something is fractional reserve without having their books open which I don't know of any portal that does, do you?

I am not shilling this only keeping you guys informed of my efforts since I as a US resident have run into these intrusive roadblocks to offramps to fiat and this is the first I've found that is quick, cost effective,non intrusive and apparently safe. What more can one ask for?

They don't even have a referral link so I make nothing mentioning them. I have just waded through tons of offramps that are all closed and wanted to share one that works for US residents.

AFA withdrawing the stablecoin I think it is just a token they use like every DEX out there for trading purposes and it is 1 to 1 on their literature and also that is what they stated when I called them. But also There is literature that stated they are partnered with Binance but I could find no way to get their stablecoin on binance so I just transferred in BTC.

Also their headquarters are in NY so I can sue them without trying to get them extradited which is kind of a huge thing.

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August 08, 2019, 06:33:10 PM

https://www.federalreserve.gov/newsevents/pressreleases/other20190805a.htm

"Federal Reserve announces plan to develop a new round-the-clock real-time payment and settlement service to support faster payments"



Follow up article

FedNow — US Federal Reserve Payment Tool a Threat to Banks, Not Crypto

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Banks, not cryptos?

Notably, the Fed’s announcement starts with an emphasis on “the rapid evolution of technology,'' which enables the Federal Reserve and the payment industry “to modernize the nation's payment system and establish a safe and efficient foundation for the future.” However, neither the press release nor the enclosed FAQs make a single mention of Bitcoin, cryptocurrencies, Libra, blockchain or even digital currencies at large.

Indeed, it seems that FedNow wants to topple large banking institutions rather than cryptocurrencies. In fact, banking giants Citigroup, Bancorp and JPMorgan Chase have already started fighting the government’s new effort, as it seems to overlap with their own real-time payments system
, the Clearing House, which the banks launched in 2017, following a cumulative $1 billion investment injection from those participating.
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https://www.federalreserve.gov/newsevents/pressreleases/other20190805a.htm

"Federal Reserve announces plan to develop a new round-the-clock real-time payment and settlement service to support faster payments"



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FedNow — US Federal Reserve Payment Tool a Threat to Banks, Not Crypto

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Banks, not cryptos?

Notably, the Fed’s announcement starts with an emphasis on “the rapid evolution of technology,'' which enables the Federal Reserve and the payment industry “to modernize the nation's payment system and establish a safe and efficient foundation for the future.” However, neither the press release nor the enclosed FAQs make a single mention of Bitcoin, cryptocurrencies, Libra, blockchain or even digital currencies at large.

Indeed, it seems that FedNow wants to topple large banking institutions rather than cryptocurrencies. In fact, banking giants Citigroup, Bancorp and JPMorgan Chase have already started fighting the government’s new effort, as it seems to overlap with their own real-time payments system
, the Clearing House, which the banks launched in 2017, following a cumulative $1 billion investment injection from those participating.

IS this the signs of whales eating each other. Cheesy

@HairyMaclairy, Ive added to the above reply to you.
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IS this the signs of whales eating each other. Cheesy

Time will tell. I don't mind these guys struggling with each other for at least 10-15 years. Meanwhile btc can spread the virus,  Good for us.
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At which price Will we have page parity ??

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At which price Will we have page parity ??

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At which price Will we have page parity ??

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August 08, 2019, 07:30:58 PM

https://www.federalreserve.gov/newsevents/pressreleases/other20190805a.htm

"Federal Reserve announces plan to develop a new round-the-clock real-time payment and settlement service to support faster payments"



Follow up article

FedNow — US Federal Reserve Payment Tool a Threat to Banks, Not Crypto

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Banks, not cryptos?

Notably, the Fed’s announcement starts with an emphasis on “the rapid evolution of technology,'' which enables the Federal Reserve and the payment industry “to modernize the nation's payment system and establish a safe and efficient foundation for the future.” However, neither the press release nor the enclosed FAQs make a single mention of Bitcoin, cryptocurrencies, Libra, blockchain or even digital currencies at large.

Indeed, it seems that FedNow wants to topple large banking institutions rather than cryptocurrencies. In fact, banking giants Citigroup, Bancorp and JPMorgan Chase have already started fighting the government’s new effort, as it seems to overlap with their own real-time payments system
, the Clearing House, which the banks launched in 2017, following a cumulative $1 billion investment injection from those participating.

There's no point for the FED to  posa a "threat to banks" or "topple large banking institutions".
FED is overwatching the whole payments system and must guarantee, as opposed to toppling banks, that banks can stand right and in place (do you remember 2008?)

So this article is fascinating, but it is ultimately non sense.

The FED understood the better way to contrast cryptocurrencies and private money, is not by banning them or by overruling, but making the shitty fiat money a little bit less shitty.
This is a true Hayeckian dream: not State run monopoly over the payments and money, but a competition in the consumer final benefit.



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If we enter a bull run am I allowed to spam WO?
 
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We need a $800 pump to wake everybody up.

$12576 in one hour

I am awake whether we have an $800 pump or not, and I am part of everybody.  therefore you are wrong.    Tongue Tongue Tongue
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August 08, 2019, 07:40:56 PM

How ANY country can become an economic player in the world:

Step 1. Buy bitcoin.
Step 2. Make it your currency.
Step 3. Wait.

This is the one time opportunity in history for a smaller country to take advantage of their faster legislation and adopt bitcoin first.

https://twitter.com/rhythmtrader/status/1159508287684923392?s=21

Why isn’t my precious Belgium a bit smarter Cheesy
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If it would be exactly that page would be hilarious Roll Eyes


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Just be a bit OK for the rest of us Tongue
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August 08, 2019, 07:44:00 PM

Yeah, agree everyone here can do this all day-night  Wink. We should stop because think if JJG is in a good mood and start doing the same in all posts. Grin

JJG going to opt out for the time being.   Wink

Is it silence before the storm ?  Tongue

That's an interesting question and analogy, and maybe does have some parallels to weather because under current weather conditions, I cannot even predict my own lil selfie.   Cry Cry



Looks fake but i like the idea.

I could be doing the same thing with a tractor all day, instead of listening to customers say nonsense to try to close a contract.

Sir, How about outsourcing this to Indian  Grin

Be it driving uber or sending satellites to space, Indians are doing just fine.... its pretty cheap as well Cheesy  


They don't have no grass in india.  Believe it or not.  A whole country and no grass.   Shocked Shocked Shocked

Hello Mr Columbus, here are the right coordinates 20.5937° N, 78.9629° E   Grin

Last time I read, six countries contribute more than 40% to global agriculture output.

Dragon ( China is leading) followed by Elephant ( India) and then Eagle ( USA), don't remember all of them.

Wow.  Mr. Smartie Pants.  Playing the incomplete statistics card (with Animal-like symbols, too).    Shocked Shocked
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August 08, 2019, 07:44:11 PM

Quick reminder that Jordan Belfort, the "Wolf of Wall Street" called Bitcoin a scam last year, and said "Get out if you don't want to lose all of your money". The price was about 50% of what it is today.

Bullish.

https://twitter.com/fullbeerbottle/status/1159527648781058049?s=21

Indeed, forgot about that idiot ..........
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August 08, 2019, 07:47:28 PM

1h

Then Hobbs and Shaw, anyone already seen it?? ....

Probably a good NO-brainer Cheesy
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August 08, 2019, 07:49:25 PM

We need a $800 pump to wake everybody up.

$12576 in one hour

If this happens, it won't stop there. It will go to the new AYH. (>$14.5k) I got a feeling.  Cool

So....... Mic’s going to the toilet, taking a Seat, checking latest Posts from WO on the phone

WoW reads 12567 in one hour, followed by a bullish mindrust talking about AYH’s etc

Mic instant checks the price....... 11.667  Roll Eyes

Now the taking a sh*t went from euphoric to just usual business

Just don't be allowing your team to provide any pics of your alleged "usual business." 

The rest of WO can thank me in advance for this "practical" suggestion.
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Robert Marley = "Time alone will tell"


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August 08, 2019, 07:56:30 PM

We need a $800 pump to wake everybody up.

$12576 in one hour

If this happens, it won't stop there. It will go to the new AYH. (>$14.5k) I got a feeling.  Cool

So....... Mic’s going to the toilet, taking a Seat, checking latest Posts from WO on the phone

WoW reads 12567 in one hour, followed by a bullish mindrust talking about AYH’s etc

Mic instant checks the price....... 11.667  Roll Eyes

Now the taking a sh*t went from euphoric to just usual business

Just don't be allowing your team to provide any pics of your alleged "usual business." 

The rest of WO can thank me in advance for this "practical" suggestion.

We are a few hours later, I guess that moment is already been passed.....
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We need a $800 pump to wake everybody up.

$12576 in one hour

If this happens, it won't stop there. It will go to the new AYH. (>$14.5k) I got a feeling.  Cool

So....... Mic’s going to the toilet, taking a Seat, checking latest Posts from WO on the phone

WoW reads 12567 in one hour, followed by a bullish mindrust talking about AYH’s etc

Mic instant checks the price....... 11.667  Roll Eyes

Now the taking a sh*t went from euphoric to just usual business

Just don't be allowing your team to provide any pics of your alleged "usual business." 

The rest of WO can thank me in advance for this "practical" suggestion.

We are a few hours later, I guess that moment is already been passed.....

Then now it is time to tell about the sad part... If it doesn't go above $12.5k (which it didn't), get ready for sub $10k  Grin
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