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I don't understand why the EU has so much patience with the UK. I would have expelled them long ago. They behave like the biggest clowns and make ridiculous demands.
The EU membership is not really an advantage for some members, as the free trade and strong Euro (compared to there old devaluing currencies) is killing there economy. This is more-or-less compensated by the EU sending lots of fiat there way, to make them stay. Then there are several small and large members that end up footing the bill for that. The small members don't really have a choice as they are small and the EU isn't even very democratic in the first place. The big countries footing the bill get somewhat compensated by killing the economy of other members, and they get a lot of political power, because in the end, the one who spends the fiat decides. This whole situation is very unstable but somehow managed to not really go anywhere. Now a big to middle-sized nett-paying members leaves. What is remaining is France and Germany being the only remaining big members, and without the UK write the law, as long as they can keep the small members divided. Financially there is a big hole as the EU seems incapable to adjust there budget, so everyone will have to pay more, most small members get much less influence, and the biggest problem: some members will for the first time have to send fiat to the EU instead of it only going in the other direction. If you think the UK is making ridicules demands, just watch what these last group of members are going to do.

I think the EEG trading agreements and open markets, with shared product standards was good. A single currency was not good, and many members would never have been allowed to join it if the rules where strictly followed (and the agreed financial rules are still not enforced). Giving the EU a budget and the power to spend it (and demand budget increases) was the biggest mistake. If leaving countries go back to something like the EEG and have linked currencies that can be uncoupled if needed, we would all be in a much more stable and long-term situation than now.
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I bought decent amount worth of bitcoin when it hits $8500 to $9000 in 2018 but after that it went to $3000 nearly which is the place most of the people lost their faith and sold their bitcoin for extreme losses.But you know I didn't do that mistake and now in profits Smiley

You were not able to buy below $8,500 and above $3,120 between about late 2018 and about May 2019?

Or did you feel that you were already too much invested in BTC?
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September 04, 2019, 08:50:33 PM

I don't understand why the EU has so much patience with the UK. I would have expelled them long ago. They behave like the biggest clowns and make ridiculous demands.
The EU membership is not really an advantage for some members, as the free trade and strong Euro (compared to there old evaluating currencies) is killing there economy. This is more-or-less compensated by the EU sending lots of fiat there way, to make them stay. Then there are several small and large members that end up footing the bill for that. The small members don't really have a choice as they are small and the EU isn't even very democratic in the first place. The big countries footing the bill get somewhat compensated by killing the economy of other members, and they get a lot of political power, because in the end, the one who spends the fiat decides. This whole situation is very unstable but somehow managed to not really go anywhere. Now a big to middle-sized nett-paying members leaves. What is remaining is France and Germany being the only remaining big members, and without the UK write the law, as long as they can keep the small members divided. Financially there is a big hole as the EU seems incapable to adjust there budget, so everyone will have to pay more, most small members get much less influence, and the biggest problem: some members will for the first time have to send fiat to the EU instead of it only going in the other direction. If you think the UK is making ridicules demands, just watch what these last group of members are going to do.

I think the EEG trading agreements and open markets, with shared product standards was good. A single currency was not good, and many members would never have been allowed to join it if the rules where strictly followed (and the agreed financial rules are still not enforced). Giving the EU a budget and the power to spend it (and demand budget increases) was the biggest mistake. If leaving countries go back to something like the EEG and have linked currencies that can be uncoupled if needed, we would all be in a much more stable and long-term situation than now.
It's not a benefit for any country. The richest countries pay more than they get out of it, countries like romania are losing almost literally their entire working population, and on and on. The only ones that benefit are the politicians sitting down in their little Tower of Babel (they have an actual tower of babel-like thing inside their building) collecting billions from the rest of us.
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I think the EEG trading agreements and open markets, with shared product standards was good. A single currency was not good, and many members would never have been allowed to join it if the rules where strictly followed (and the agreed financial rules are still not enforced). Giving the EU a budget and the power to spend it (and demand budget increases) was the biggest mistake. If leaving countries go back to something like the EEG and have linked currencies that can be uncoupled if needed, we would all be in a much more stable and long-term situation than now.

Multiple currencies wouldn't have done well neither.

USD and EUR and JPY and CNY are all competing against each other. If there were also Deutsche Mark, French Francs, Greek Drachma, Italian Lira, what difference would it make other than complicating things even further?

EU gave all those countries a chance to act as one, united but some are too proud for that shit.

Not accusing anyone for anything, in the end everybody will choose what suits them the most cuz we are selfish bastards.
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Bit of history to remember is the UK was forced to leave the EU single currency prior to euro over 25 years ago.   It was not supported then by its 'partners'  perhaps because it was too big is my estimate.

Leaving the EU doesnt mean ceasing trade, its all about the nonsense which is politics.  Business and the people would continue to be fine I believe, I was surprised on the Brexit vote but the main incentive seemed to be people wanted to vote out the people in control and that was not especially in their grasp so they opted to leave.    Politics doesnt agree with leaving behind such a rich source of yet more politics but I dont believe UK would suffer any more then Norway does sitting outside EU by their own populations choice, its mostly about democracy I think.   Germany or others cant block UK trade, its way too large to lose as a target market.
   Meanwhile the Sterling currency is dropped to a discount to dollar and EURO which I would guess is a positive as it reflects reality, BOE has printed giant amounts of QE and the currency is indeed worth less then ten years ago.   Better to price it realistically and to engage world business then suffer a false economy and the burden of even further debt; lower exchange rate does mean import prices rise though.

  All the major currencies creating QE programs they cannot unwind, struggle to stop even is part of why BTC has a tailwind behind it.



Main market trader think we are risk adverse at present on several fronts, I think that does play on BTC also

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I think the EEG trading agreements and open markets, with shared product standards was good. A single currency was not good, and many members would never have been allowed to join it if the rules where strictly followed (and the agreed financial rules are still not enforced). Giving the EU a budget and the power to spend it (and demand budget increases) was the biggest mistake. If leaving countries go back to something like the EEG and have linked currencies that can be uncoupled if needed, we would all be in a much more stable and long-term situation than now.

Multiple currencies wouldn't have done well neither.

USD and EUR and JPY and CNY are all competing against each other. If there were also Deutsche Mark, French Francs, Greek Drachma, Italian Lira, what difference would it make other than complicate things even further?

EU gave all those countries a chance to act as one, united but some are too proud for that shit.

Not accusing anyone for anything, in the end everybody will choose what suits them the most cuz we are selfish bastards.
EU is a super state of the same type as the soviet union. They don't want cooperation, that was never the goal. They want slaves.
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September 04, 2019, 08:57:38 PM





BobLawblaw and JayJuanGee have the same digits of merits as the years when my brother and grandfather were born. And JayJuanGee's activity 2002 the best days of my life.  Smiley

Was 1386 a good year for one of your relatives, too?  Or perhaps a tree or mushroom that is still living that you currently have relations?

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lol, watch out 1940, your merits are currently at the war zone   Cheesy

You probably know that i mentioned before (i don't like mushrooms)  Wink
but i like the trees, i hope for the amazon forest, i planted a few ordinary trees by myself (very proud)  Grin
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September 04, 2019, 09:36:40 PM

Bitcoin is one Rollercoaster now.... Wheeeeeee!!! Cheesy

Insert rollercoaster gif, but to lazy already in my HODLnest and to lazy to go to my computer Cheesy
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September 04, 2019, 09:39:14 PM

My gut says: sideways at 10xxx for 3 more weeks, than breaking out to above 12k around Sept 25.

your gut doesn't know shit.


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I bought decent amount worth of bitcoin when it hits $8500 to $9000 in 2018 but after that it went to $3000 nearly which is the place most of the people lost their faith and sold their bitcoin for extreme losses.But you know I didn't do that mistake and now in profits Smiley

You were not able to buy below $8,500 and above $3,120 between about late 2018 and about May 2019?

Or did you feel that you were already too much invested in BTC?

If someone is NEW and Maybe had a bit of fear cause of the correction.... I can understand that.... though if there was FIAT left then its still pity you didn’t bought to DCA.... but still you HODL and learn when being in the proces so thats something to cheer on!
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September 04, 2019, 09:41:08 PM

My gut says: sideways at 10xxx for 3 more weeks, than breaking out to above 12k around Sept 25.

your gut doesn't know shit.


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He’s guts have been right for Some times Tongue
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September 04, 2019, 09:44:31 PM

Bitcoin is one Rollercoaster now.... Wheeeeeee!!! Cheesy

Insert rollercoaster gif, but to lazy already in my HODLnest and to lazy to go to my computer Cheesy

Me 2  Wink
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September 04, 2019, 09:51:59 PM

Hey Mic,
You are so late in this!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg52356491#msg52356491
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Naturally as Bitcoin expands as does the velocity at which these moves take place

With each dollar added to the marketcap it becomes that much harder to grow and the percentages become more incremental

A bull market at this scale will take years to play out to full effect

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https://twitter.com/moonoverlord/status/1169232644929990659?s=21
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Mmmmmm must be the HODLnest and the actions that just took place in there that are making me dizzy atm  Kiss
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September 04, 2019, 10:00:07 PM

Thank you, phillipone and negotiation. I just posted there for fun  Grin.

Okay I was dream achieved  a Senior Member rank but this day i crying for little Unknown mistake   Cry Cry
You are achieved Sr member soon

It might be possible to reform your ways, but look at jbreher, he just seems to be devolving worse and worse and doubling down with his ongoing and relentless support of bcash SV.. that seemed to have had started out with just being a BIG blocker but went further and further down hill with the passage of time... go figure.

Sometimes bcashers are just fucked in the head, I suppose.. so only you may have some actual real world clues about whether you are able to both repent your stupid-ass shilling ways and to come around with actions that show that you have actually reformed urselfie from dumb status.    Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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September 04, 2019, 10:03:54 PM

Everyone should watch this incredibly powerful moment.

https://twitter.com/jeremycorbyn/status/1169229997367877632?s=21

Btw.... r0ach your opinion is not needed Roll Eyes
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Mmmmmm must be the HODLnest and the actions that just took place in there that are making me dizzy atm  Kiss
Ahaha!
That why.

My HODLnest is so boring!
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