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$110K - 9 (8.3%)
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September 18, 2019, 03:49:02 PM

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The Fed emergency printed $54 billion this morning to correct the lending market.

The last time this happened was in 2008.

Bitcoin was born out of the last crisis and will prove itself in the coming one.

https://twitter.com/Rhythmtrader/status/1174072434477195270

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/09/17/business/overnight-lending-rate-spike-ny-fed/index.html

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Yup. Liquidity in the lending market gone. The cracks in the Ponzi are showing...

https://www.zerohedge.com/health/fed-begins-repo-operation-funding-rates-ominously-elevated-across-board

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September 18, 2019, 04:12:18 PM

Good fucking question. I'm pretty much limited to a handful of non-shit asian countries, eastern europe and south america. Hence my little tour of the world. Seeking a place worth living in.

Eastern Europe that's too poor to be in the EU? Ukraine... Belarus... I'm afraid those places are not too different from Russia.
For one thing, my money go further in poor countries. Thailand is literally a fifth of western prices for hotels, food, most stuff in general. It's cheaper to live in a hotel over there than in my local apartment, so why wouldn't I given that I don't need a job?

Secondly, the problem is not how rich or poor a country is but if it has a welfare state or otherwise socialistic tendencies. In Romania both nazism and communism is illegal by law. Because they have experienced it. All western countries essentially follow the same welfare model, and it is one of the main components in driving a culture towards communism. Capitalism is the only model that works.

As for Russia, it is simply too far north to be worth considering. Even if it wasn't full of Russians.
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September 18, 2019, 04:12:42 PM

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Anywhere not in the EU, US, Canada, anything muslim, Africa, Australia, New Zealand, Russia and China.

Not really sure what your beef is with EU, Canada, Australia and New Zealand. But nevermind. By far the greatest country to live in not in that list is Norway. Especially if you (plan to) have kids.
They are all welfare countries.
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September 18, 2019, 04:22:19 PM

Book club time. I downloaded both Permanent Record (E. Snowden) and Biodom's recommendation The Great Leveler (Walter Scheidel). Still don't know which to crack open first.
I would also recommend The Richest Man in Babylon (also available on youtube in audio format). Additionally, the pareto principle is highly relevant to the great leveler. Jordan Peterson talks about it, again can be youtubed.
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September 18, 2019, 05:28:56 PM

Usual überbullish tweet by PlanB!

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Lot of questions about stock-to-flow going to infinity.

People don't realize that after 2020 halving #bitcoin market value will be $1T+ and after 2024 $10T, while USD monetary base is $3T .. so then people just stop accepting USD, like nobody accepts Zimbabwe $ for bitcoin now.

https://twitter.com/100trillionusd/status/1174372878055280641?s=21



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September 18, 2019, 05:48:02 PM

Usual überbullish tweet by PlanB!

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Lot of questions about stock-to-flow going to infinity.

People don't realize that after 2020 halving #bitcoin market value will be $1T+ and after 2024 $10T, while USD monetary base is $3T .. so then people just stop accepting USD, like nobody accepts Zimbabwe $ for bitcoin now.

https://twitter.com/100trillionusd/status/1174372878055280641?s=21





I think this response in the comments is reasonable...
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Yes people, BTC will likely be worth 6 figures, 7 figures.. Even 8 figures....
But don't forget by this point a gallon of milk may be $5000, or $2.5M for a basic mid-size sedan etc etc.
It's not like prices are going to freeze as CBs inflate their currencies into oblivion
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September 18, 2019, 05:57:45 PM
Last edit: September 18, 2019, 06:09:44 PM by fillippone

Indeed: if you are measuring yourself with a shorter and shorter meter you ain’t getting taller!
Same concept applies to money: bread isn’t getting more value in Venezuela because price is soaring...
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September 18, 2019, 06:08:50 PM

Usual überbullish tweet by PlanB!

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Lot of questions about stock-to-flow going to infinity.

People don't realize that after 2020 halving #bitcoin market value will be $1T+ and after 2024 $10T, while USD monetary base is $3T .. so then people just stop accepting USD, like nobody accepts Zimbabwe $ for bitcoin now.

https://twitter.com/100trillionusd/status/1174372878055280641?s=21





I think this response in the comments is reasonable...
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Yes people, BTC will likely be worth 6 figures, 7 figures.. Even 8 figures....
But don't forget by this point a gallon of milk may be $5000, or $2.5M for a basic mid-size sedan etc etc.
It's not like prices are going to freeze as CBs inflate their currencies into oblivion
No you damn twat, we are always talking in current value. Goddamn but you people keep repeating the same stupid tripe.
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September 18, 2019, 06:11:20 PM

There is no way for BTC to get to value in the millions without dollar losing value. As simple as that.
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September 18, 2019, 06:13:37 PM
Last edit: September 18, 2019, 06:39:02 PM by VB1001
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https://i.imgur.com/khNBCP2.jpg

3 new hats in September:

- SuperTA
- _javi_
- serveria.com

The three as always with a good design of xhomerx10

BTC & StrongHats



This September has been very good for the WO thread, +25,000 pages, +500,000 replies with comments of all kinds, but most of them related to Bitcoin.

Thx infofront in the future this thread and its "members" will be a subject of study. Wink

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September 18, 2019, 06:40:14 PM

There is no way for BTC to get to value in the millions without dollar losing value. As simple as that.


Bitcoin is the solution to the failing worldwide, economic system. Pray for the NOCOINERS!
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September 18, 2019, 06:49:48 PM

There is no way for BTC to get to value in the millions without dollar losing value. As simple as that.
Prove it.
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September 18, 2019, 06:52:09 PM

Been a whole day in London at the moment..... F*** that traffic and etc everything makes me feel like i’m scammed Roll Eyes
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September 18, 2019, 07:04:10 PM

Been a whole day in London at the moment..... F*** that traffic and etc everything makes me feel like i’m scammed Roll Eyes

The most annoying thing is the people, too many fucking people  Roll Eyes
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September 18, 2019, 07:05:02 PM

Been a whole day in London at the moment..... F*** that traffic and etc everything makes me feel like i’m scammed Roll Eyes

The most annoying thing is the people, too many fucking people  Roll Eyes
Are you saying that... Stalin did nothing wrong?
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September 18, 2019, 07:07:45 PM

When exactly are you fucking off, Ibian?
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September 18, 2019, 07:13:12 PM

^^

To me he sounds a bit like a kid sitting at the same table with the grown ups. I've learned to skip. Ignore could be an option, too, but I like skipping if I'm not catching up.
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September 18, 2019, 07:22:22 PM
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Have a pleasant evening fellow HODLers......

What do you think of the detail? @BOB  Wink
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September 18, 2019, 07:25:52 PM

VeriBlock announces alpha SegWit-enabled PoP miner; warns it’ll take more space on Bitcoin
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VeriBlock’s team announced today that it is releasing an alpha SegWit-enabled Proof-of-Proof (PoP) miner. While doing so, the team cautioned users to only deposit very small amounts of BTC as they are actively working on its robustness and stability, volunteer community testers experienced hiccups in testnet mode.

The team also went into the details of how individual PoP transactions will consume less weight on Bitcoin, meaning that transaction fees will be lower for those transactions (~29% lower). This, rather counter-intuitively however, will mean that VeriBlock transactions will take more space on the on-disk Bitcoin blockchain.
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On a side note, former contributor to Bitcoin Core, Jeff Garzik, who led the development of the abandoned SegWit2x hard fork attempt back in 2017, is part of VeriBlock’s team.
https://eng.ambcrypto.com/veriblock-announces-alpha-segwit-enabled-pop-miner-warns-itll-take-more-space-on-bitcoin/

I don't like this, they are preparing the ground to fill the mempool with shit again before starting the new ATH.
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Sorry to hear London scammed you, mike; hope you have a good time despite it  Wink


meanwhile some security stuff https://blog.keys.casa/announcing-the-casa-wealth-security-protocol/
a lot to go through, but notably lacks firs
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