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September 17, 2019, 02:58:23 AM

4 is round.  Roll Eyes

4 is not round. 4 has a dick face.


Wealth disparity is not the worst thing...historical forces that typically remove the disparity are much more disagreeable.
I am reading a book that systematically looked at what reduces inequality..and turns out only major wars and deadly pandemics (plaque in medieval Europe) were able to temporarily reduce inequality.

All societies "naturally'" trend toward increasing inequality in relatively peaceful conditions (over centuries).



You seem to be indicating the mass pandemics / disasters that make the wealthy less wealthy and taking that as some kind of an equalizing force. The truth is, the real disparity between the rich and poor keeps on increasing. At least that was the case until the industrial age kicked in.

And now only thanks to the advent of internet and perhaps to some degrees, cryptos, the wealth that was accumulated by the rich for eons, has trickled down to the economically weaker sections of the population.

As far as I know, there are very few instances where the poor are given a solid way to claw out of poverty.

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September 17, 2019, 02:58:23 AM

I got no problem with wealth disparity in itself.

I do have a problem with people being treated differently under the law, and we got some problems on that front.
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September 17, 2019, 03:02:04 AM

cheating going on
LFC comment was 500001th



All of you playing this silly ass game are so Dumb!

Real Dumb!

For sure.







Maybe even retarded, if I dare say so?
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September 17, 2019, 03:03:20 AM

I got no problem with wealth disparity in itself.

I do have a problem with people being treated differently under the law, and we got some problems on that front.

Were you born with a silver spoon in your mouth sir?
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September 17, 2019, 03:03:37 AM

Quick update on my bank situation. They booted me.

No real reason given. They demanded insight into my bitcoin transactions, I told them they get nothing bitcoin related, done.

This happened a mere few days before I'm going on a global tour, starting with asia, then eastern europe and finally south america. No big. I can buy plane tickets directly with btc, my only bills are my cellie which my family can handle from their accounts, there is the occasional btc atm around the world... it will be interesting to see how well it works to be bankless.

Presumably they will write you a cheque totalling your account balances so you can cash it when you get a new bank?

Asking for future reference.
For the moment I have simply moved my money to a family account. I don't intend to actually use that account for anything more than simply storing my money, but it is there as an extra emergency backup if needed. This is ideally a temporary measure. I have not looked for a new bank and do not intend to.
Merited for cutting edge reporting. And, what if they go after your familly account because "it did receive the btc-tainted kroner, ha!" - how likely do you reckon such an event is?

Hey speaking of, the entire west is heading towards communism.

In germany a baker was faced with a 25k euro fine for having KG instead of kg on the signs in his shop. We are already living under stalinist conditions.

I'd like to hear the facts from two sources. It's not the commies IMO. It's obsessive insistence with The Rulez and the stantarts that neet to be folloft. The Germans are chronically prone to it, as are some other people, each in their own way. There must be a way for a peep to carve himself some slack. I would start to look for any specific reference to minuscule g's in the letter of the law. As for the spirit, typography apart, it's probably meant to ban unconverted pounds or ounces.
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4 is round.  Roll Eyes
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4 is not round. 4 has a dick face.


Wealth disparity is not the worst thing...historical forces that typically remove the disparity are much more disagreeable.
I am reading a book that systematically looked at what reduces inequality..and turns out only major wars and deadly pandemics (plaque in medieval Europe) were able to temporarily reduce inequality.

All societies "naturally'" trend toward increasing inequality in relatively peaceful conditions (over centuries).



You seem to be indicating the mass pandemics / disasters that make the wealthy less wealthy and taking that as some kind of an equalizing force. The truth is, the real disparity between the rich and poor keeps on increasing. At least that was the case until the industrial age kicked in.

And now only thanks to the advent of internet and perhaps to some degrees, cryptos, the wealth that was accumulated by the rich for eons, has trickled down to the economically weaker sections of the population.

As far as I know, there are very few instances where the poor are given a solid way to claw out of poverty.



er...read the book (it looked over many centuries).
It does not give an answer to what is right and what is wrong and/or what is preferable and what it not.
It simply described what happened and when.
To your first statement: No, the disparity does not steadily increase. It increased for a few centuries, correct, then decreased from 1930-1940 (following WWI/WWII combo, separated by just 20 years) until 1975-1980, then steadily increased again until now.
To your second statement: yes, there not many instances where the poor move several strata in one generation.
https://www.amazon.com/Great-Leveler-Walter-Scheidel/dp/0691192677/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=the+great+leveler
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September 17, 2019, 03:07:22 AM

peak, lower volume
decay, gently downsloping...
debart? A clear fake.

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September 17, 2019, 03:12:48 AM


Were you born with a silver spoon in your mouth sir?

lol

hardly
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Were you born with a silver spoon in your mouth sir?

lol

hardly


lol was it hardly stuffed in ?  Grin Grin

er...read the book (it looked over many centuries).
It does not give an answer to what is right and what is wrong and/or what is preferable and what it not.
It simply described what happened and when.
To your first statement: No, the disparity does not steadily increase. It increased for a few centuries, correct, then decreased between 1930-1940 (following WWI/WWII combo, separated by just 20 years) until 1975-1980, then steadily increased again until now.
To your second statement: yes, there not many instances where the poor move several strata in one generation.
https://www.amazon.com/Great-Leveler-Walter-Scheidel/dp/0691192677/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=the+great+leveler


Thanks I'll buy it by the end of the month. Ain't got spare cash to swat a fly atm.

Unless there's an online free / pdf / bootleg version of it somewhere, then you can let me know.

But let's not forget, its just one book from one author - and it is socio-economics, something that is very hard to predict, even when using past data as example.

Think of what happened during the black plague. I remember reading some charts about the economic impact it had on the wealthy vs poor, if I find it I'll stick it here.
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Were you born with a silver spoon in your mouth sir?

lol

hardly


lol was it hardly stuffed in ?  Grin Grin

er...read the book (it looked over many centuries).
It does not give an answer to what is right and what is wrong and/or what is preferable and what it not.
It simply described what happened and when.
To your first statement: No, the disparity does not steadily increase. It increased for a few centuries, correct, then decreased between 1930-1940 (following WWI/WWII combo, separated by just 20 years) until 1975-1980, then steadily increased again until now.
To your second statement: yes, there not many instances where the poor move several strata in one generation.
https://www.amazon.com/Great-Leveler-Walter-Scheidel/dp/0691192677/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=the+great+leveler


Thanks I'll buy it by the end of the month. Ain't got spare cash to swat a fly atm.

Unless there's an online free / pdf / bootleg version of it somewhere, then you can let me know.

But let's not forget, its just one book from one author - and it is socio-economics, something that is very hard to predict, even when using past data as example.

Think of what happened during the black plague. I remember reading some charts about the economic impact it had on the wealthy vs poor, if I find it I'll stick it here.

Good example...in the aftermath real wages apparently increased at least twofold and inequality decreased.
Albeit, many millions died as the result of that disease.
Hence, going forward, it is reasonable to predict that nobody would like it if some historical factors would temporarily "solve" the inequality.
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September 17, 2019, 03:49:37 AM

Even if I weren't dry, it usually feels kind of wasteful to spend merit on legendary members. However, sometimes...

TERA got a lot right, and was shamefully treated for it.

Word. I wasn't the hardest hitting guy, yet still regret doing it.

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Wealth disparity is not the worst thing...historical forces that typically remove the disparity are much more disagreeable.
I am reading a book that systematically looked at what reduces inequality..and turns out only major wars and deadly pandemics (plaque in medieval Europe) were able to temporarily reduce inequality.

No, the disparity does not steadily increase. It increased for a few centuries, correct, then decreased from 1930-1940 (following WWI/WWII combo, separated by just 20 years) until 1975-1980, then steadily increased again until now.
To your second statement: yes, there not many instances where the poor move several strata in one generation.
https://www.amazon.com/Great-Leveler-Walter-Scheidel/dp/0691192677/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=the+great+leveler


Please have WOsMerits instead, gents. +1 each.


I am done even entertaining anyone on the left. You, and people like you, do not understand human psychology or economics. You are worthless.

If you have an argument then make it. You have as yet not done so. There is no argument to win.
Shht. Not at bed yet? The grown ups are having a quiet talk. Tut tut.

You're good when you stick to the facts happening around you. I, for one, actually appreciated your contribution about the bank - and had to remind myself about the intended use of Smerit before spending my last one on you  Tongue
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September 17, 2019, 03:59:18 AM
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4 is round.  Roll Eyes
4 is not round. 4 has a dick face.

If 4 is not round, at least it is nice.... getting back to the original quote from nutildah asserting that 5 is rounder and nicer than 4.  I have issues with that conclusory assertion:

>>>>> Upping the prize to 5 Merits just because its a nice round number<<<<<<<

In other words, nutildah intentionally and purposefully giving 4 a bum rap.... resulting in favoritism to his lil butt buddy, 5.   Angry Angry
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September 17, 2019, 04:01:20 AM

Communism on the rise?  No - see China and the former Soviet states.

Totalitarianism, yes - lurching that way - but it is appearing in the form of nationalism and as far as I can see it seems to be coming more from the right wing than the left in the West.
We know you are a leftie so your opinion carries no weight. But for general information, culture always moves from right to left over time. Nationalism is a right wing thing. It is on the decline, and has been for decades. Multiculturalism is the opposite of nationalism.

So your prejudice about me wins the argument?  And who is this 'we' you speak for?

I am a capitalist and generally libertarian actually, but no matter. However, just because I am not as jackbooted as you does not make my opinion of no value. I was attacking your sloppy and farcical arguments, not you. You, I pity.

If you think nationalism is in decline you are plainly deluded.  America first?  Brexit?  AFD in Germany?  Ergogan in Turkey... Poland's Law and Justice party... Orban in Hungary....  Seriously?  The liberal consensus of the post-war West is in decline, not nationalism.  Everyone printing money, 'strong men' in politics with idealistic simplistic solutions often involving stretching the truth..?  Sounds more like a reversion to the politics of the 1930s to me. 

And if you are leaving the West because of communism, as you advocate everyone should - do remember to shut the door behind you on your way out?

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I am done even entertaining anyone on the left. You, and people like you, do not understand human psychology or economics. You are worthless.

If you have an argument then make it. You have as yet not done so. There is no argument to win.
Kurious has solid arguments. You on the other hand, are merely ranting.
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September 17, 2019, 04:05:28 AM

TERA got a lot right, and was shamefully treated for it.

Word. I wasn't the hardest hitting guy, yet still regret doing it.

No regrets here.  She  deserved every bit, if not more, of any bashing that she received.    That's how dee interwebs work.   Cool
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September 17, 2019, 04:49:10 AM

TERA got a lot right, and was shamefully treated for it.

Word. I wasn't the hardest hitting guy, yet still regret doing it.

No regrets here.  She  deserved every bit, if not more, of any bashing that she received.    That's how dee interwebs work.   Cool

I don’t think she was that much of a messiah. She basically just correctly called that we’d have a big correction when it was going parabolic. That’s what’s happened every time with bitcoin during each cycle. It’s not hard to presume it’ll go down eventually once it begins to look unsustainable.

If I remember correctly she called a $5,000 - $6,000 bottom which when you look at %’s was miles off because we went to low $3,000’s.
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That’s a really big sneeze
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September 17, 2019, 05:05:49 AM

Correct Tera calls:

2013 Pump and top
2013 Crash and bull trap to 700
2013 Bleed out

Predicted wave to 20k back in 2013

Said that new US exchanges would fuel a new run before the 2017 parabola started

2017 Called multiple crashes as temporary corrections
2017 Called for longs on Bcash (before its wild pump, sold at .5 like me)
2017 Picked the ETH ratio bottom
2017 Played Doge coin perfect
2017 Called the top within a few % (sold at 18.8k)

Called the bounce to 17k as the worst time to buy, last chance suckers entry
Predicted a fall to 5-8k followed by a 100% bounce to 12k
Followed by a new fall to 5.5 and then a bounce to 10
Called for a supercycle low of probably 3k


The only area he was unsure about was the longer term: if a supercycle 4.0 would hit and push it to a new ATH. I am calling bubble 4.0 as topped out at 14k and a new bear market has now begun. Long term the odds have dramatically increased for 20k to remain as the forever ATH.
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September 17, 2019, 05:07:51 AM

Damn!
Real life got me in the wrong moment!

EDIT:
I swear I saw  serveria.com message as the winner.

Yes me too.

Someone has deleted posts, this is not serious, gentlemen.

Remember page 10000?

That was some serious deletion jockeying.


Damn dude, you're on the 10k page!!! I was posting like a mofo to stay on the 10k page.

Blablabla


you just angry because you were shorting and price didnt drop a bit   Grin Grin Grin



LOL You can't blame him for lashing out in frustration when his trolling doesn't work.

Ok, I see the first post on the page is an NLC post. I guess that explains the deletion thingy.

I was sure adamstgBit was involved.
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September 17, 2019, 05:08:52 AM

This is getting boring.

Only a couple weeks to Q4 and still over $10K though. The only thing I would not expect at all is the price to keep sideways for too much longer.

Anyway... this is (still) fine.
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September 17, 2019, 05:12:52 AM

TERA got a lot right, and was shamefully treated for it.

Word. I wasn't the hardest hitting guy, yet still regret doing it.

No regrets here.  She  deserved every bit, if not more, of any bashing that she received.    That's how dee interwebs work.   Cool

I don’t think she was that much of a messiah. She basically just correctly called that we’d have a big correction when it was going parabolic. That’s what’s happened every time with bitcoin during each cycle. It’s not hard to presume it’ll go down eventually once it begins to look unsustainable.

If I remember correctly she called a $5,000 - $6,000 bottom which when you look at %’s was miles off because we went to low $3,000’s.


Yeah, and she also started calling blow off top from $3k and upwards, so yeah, sooner or later she was going to be 100% correct. 

It should be a bit difficult to be impressed by such braggarts, but seems that guys (and maybe even a gal or two) just love wannabe sorcerers who use charts.
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