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Question: Highest price we'll see in 2022:
50,000 - 9 (13.2%)
60,000 - 3 (4.4%)
70,000 - 4 (5.9%)
80,000 - 6 (8.8%)
90,000 - 3 (4.4%)
100,000 - 4 (5.9%)
125,000 - 12 (17.6%)
150,000 - 5 (7.4%)
175,000 - 2 (2.9%)
200,000 - 2 (2.9%)
225,000 - 5 (7.4%)
250,000 - 4 (5.9%)
275,000 - 1 (1.5%)
300,000 - 0 (0%)
>300,000 - 8 (11.8%)
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Not to put too fine a point on it, but if you don’t have medical insurance in the US, the cost of a Coronavirus test is $3,200. 

Poor people who can’t afford health insurance aren’t going to get tested in the USA. 

According to this: https://www.factcheck.org/2020/03/covid-19-tests-dont-cost-over-3000/ , that is not true.


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What to Know About Treatment and Coverage

    At this time, the CDC is the only facility equipped to test for COVID 19, or to designate other laboratories to do so. The CDC is not billing for testing for COVID 19, so patients will not incur costs when tested by the CDC.

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March 04, 2020, 11:19:43 PM
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Not to put too fine a point on it, but if you don’t have medical insurance in the US, the cost of a Coronavirus test is $3,200.  

Poor people who can’t afford health insurance aren’t going to get tested in the USA.  

Healthcare in italy is free for everyone (actually it is not free, it's prepaid via general taxation).
One of those times that make me understand how it's difficult to understand US citizen when we live in such different environment.

On a lighter note:
 
Do you remember my picture of emptied shelves?
It's now thing of the past.



Here a pic of my local supermarket store.
No one is around
Shelves stuffed as usual.

The girl told me: "They came and they raided us. Nothing happened, we resupplied and not now one is around because they have tons of food to eat."
Fillippone bought his pasta with no one around.









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not sure how to protect against the flu! does this count too?

I've heard several times the poverty level face masks, self or factory made make almost no difference.   Cleaning hands two or three times as often over normal somehow might save you and I can believe that because people are picking it up then rubbing their face or whatever, nothing more complicated then what the average five year old does without thinking all day.  Ironically kids have some better chance, not sure how but a little positive to this all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meTgeX_WyVw
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March 04, 2020, 11:23:46 PM
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(if it's not too personal)?


For educational purpose..

Raja and me comes from the same region, where we have no such thing called personal space etc. I appreciate your politeness but you can ask him or anyone from Indian Subcontinent (if you know them) directly without any filter.

I can imagine what his friend asking him about this flu... Bencho, jinda hai abhi tak? Sisterfucker, you are still alive? Grin
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March 04, 2020, 11:27:28 PM

Not to put too fine a point on it, but if you don’t have medical insurance in the US, the cost of a Coronavirus test is $3,200.  

Poor people who can’t afford health insurance aren’t going to get tested in the USA.  

According to this: https://www.factcheck.org/2020/03/covid-19-tests-dont-cost-over-3000/ , that is not true.


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What to Know About Treatment and Coverage

    At this time, the CDC is the only facility equipped to test for COVID 19, or to designate other laboratories to do so. The CDC is not billing for testing for COVID 19, so patients will not incur costs when tested by the CDC.


Ok - according to your link the test is free.  But it costs $3,200 to visit a doctor to get the free test. Am I reading that correctly?   And even if you are insured, it can still cost you $1,000. 

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March 04, 2020, 11:27:59 PM

No one is around
Shelves stuffed as usual.

The girl told me: "They came and they raided us. Nothing happened, we resupplied and not now one is around because they have tons of food to eat."
Fillippone bought his pasta with no one around.

Idiots. When it comes to the worst, most of the people will have to restock. Everybody seems to care to not get infected, but if they fail, we'll be fucked by the consequences of political decisions, typically not of the far sighted type. Only then will i touch my prepper food and toilet paper.
About the only things that i'm dependent on are mains power and some source of water (even rain will do).
For the very bad situations i have a DC/AC converter lying around, which is designed to work with car batteries. So solar power will do, as long as i can regulate the voltage down to 12V.
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March 04, 2020, 11:30:14 PM

Can confirm Australia is out of toilet paper.  Reverting to gum leaves.
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March 04, 2020, 11:36:10 PM

Can confirm Australia is out of toilet paper.  Reverting to gum leaves.

Out of newspaper too?  Wink
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March 04, 2020, 11:41:54 PM

Not to put too fine a point on it, but if you don’t have medical insurance in the US, the cost of a Coronavirus test is $3,200. 

Poor people who can’t afford health insurance aren’t going to get tested in the USA. 

According to this: https://www.factcheck.org/2020/03/covid-19-tests-dont-cost-over-3000/ , that is not true.


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What to Know About Treatment and Coverage

    At this time, the CDC is the only facility equipped to test for COVID 19, or to designate other laboratories to do so. The CDC is not billing for testing for COVID 19, so patients will not incur costs when tested by the CDC.


Ok - according to your link the test is free.  But it costs $3200 to visit a doctor to get the free test. Am I reading that correctly?

The test (as of now) is free.  I am pretty sure $3200 is not representative of what a US citizen typically pays for a doctor visit.

One anecdotal instance of how much someone spent on emergency care really should not be misrepresented as 'the cost of a Coronavirus test [in the US]', especially since it may discourage those who think they may need to be tested from doing so.

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March 04, 2020, 11:47:36 PM

Can confirm Australia is out of toilet paper.  Reverting to gum leaves.
Use water, hygienic and effective way to clean butt, Hands down..

Its funny that "Out of toilet paper" is making headlines in news.

PS : there is no panic-mode in Delhi-Tokyo or Osaka yet.
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March 04, 2020, 11:54:03 PM

not sure how to protect against the flu! does this count too?

I've heard several times the poverty level face masks, self or factory made make almost no difference.

Says who? Or, rather, does WHO say it?
If you don't have masks (or you have just 1.2% of what might be needed as we learned today) you would certainly say that they are not useful.
Anybody can see that all Chinese wear them ...and they seem to have new cases diminished (if you believe their numbers).
Independent variables or not?
I don't know.
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Not to put too fine a point on it, but if you don’t have medical insurance in the US, the cost of a Coronavirus test is $3,200.  

Poor people who can’t afford health insurance aren’t going to get tested in the USA.  

According to this: https://www.factcheck.org/2020/03/covid-19-tests-dont-cost-over-3000/ , that is not true.


Also, from https://www.ahip.org/keeping-americans-safe-from-coronavirus-covid-19/
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What to Know About Treatment and Coverage

    At this time, the CDC is the only facility equipped to test for COVID 19, or to designate other laboratories to do so. The CDC is not billing for testing for COVID 19, so patients will not incur costs when tested by the CDC.


Ok - according to your link the test is free.  But it costs $3200 to visit a doctor to get the free test. Am I reading that correctly?

The test (as of now) is free.  I am pretty sure $3200 is not representative of what a US citizen typically pays for a doctor visit.

One anecdotal instance of how much someone spent on emergency care really should not be misrepresented as 'the cost of a Coronavirus test [in the US]', especially since it may discourage those who think they may need to be tested from doing so.



The first thing you have to know about the US is that a large portion of the population has no health insurance, does not go to the doctor, and has probably only seen a doctor a few times in their lifetime.

They don't have a doctor, don't really know where to find one on short notice, and aren't going to wait for an appointment if there is something so extreme as to get them to see a doctor. They only use emergency rooms for care, and some never intend to pay. Hospitals know this, which is why they charge $3000 for a visit to the emergency room (this is a real number btw from personal experience taking an ex girlfriend). Their collection department is hoping to get a 10% return on the amount they bill through collection agencies.

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If you're not on the verge of death, there's no need to go to a hospital.

Fix a broken bone or whatever...

Most of the time going to the hospital is worse for you than staying home and taking care of yourself.
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Take my advice for free, i don't use it anyway..........
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Coronavirus may be getting weaker due to evolutionary pressure - aggressive quarantining of patients who become very sick

https://academic.oup.com/nsr/advance-article/doi/10.1093/nsr/nwaa036/5775463?searchresult=1
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(if it's not too personal)?


For educational purpose..

Raja and me comes from the same region, where we have no such thing called personal space etc. I appreciate your politeness but you can ask him or anyone from Indian Subcontinent (if you know them) directly without any filter.

I can imagine what his friend asking him about this flu... Bencho, jinda hai abhi tak? Sisterfucker, you are still alive? Grin

 That's awesome!  I'd never heard that before.  I called one of my indian co-workers sister-fucker tonight.  He laughed and laughed and asked me where I heard that.  I'm keeping my sources secret!
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https://bitcoinops.org/en/newsletters/2020/03/04/
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Coronavirus may be getting weaker due to evolutionary pressure - aggressive quarantining of patients who become very sick

https://academic.oup.com/nsr/advance-article/doi/10.1093/nsr/nwaa036/5775463?searchresult=1

A lot of mights and mays in that. Can't wait till we get some solid research papers out on this.
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Coronavirus may be getting weaker due to evolutionary pressure - aggressive quarantining of patients who become very sick

https://academic.oup.com/nsr/advance-article/doi/10.1093/nsr/nwaa036/5775463?searchresult=1

The grave is an airtight quarantine. It probably just wasnt that strong to begin with, just tons of cases never got tested for or diagnosed. But it was strong enough to send money printers into panic printing mode, which works for me.
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