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Question: Highest price we'll see in 2022:
50,000 - 7 (11.1%)
60,000 - 2 (3.2%)
70,000 - 4 (6.3%)
80,000 - 6 (9.5%)
90,000 - 3 (4.8%)
100,000 - 3 (4.8%)
125,000 - 12 (19%)
150,000 - 5 (7.9%)
175,000 - 2 (3.2%)
200,000 - 2 (3.2%)
225,000 - 4 (6.3%)
250,000 - 4 (6.3%)
275,000 - 1 (1.6%)
300,000 - 0 (0%)
>300,000 - 8 (12.7%)
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March 06, 2020, 04:56:36 PM

electric car

Too bad they suck.

Poor resale value, cannot be repaired easily, shitty design, not reliable and possibly dangerous. Worst of all worlds. Electric cars are just like iphones and I hate iphones even though I use one. (I use it because there isn't anything better and I hate google even more)

I was actually a fan of Tesla for a while but after reading the disadvantages, it lost its mojo pretty fast.


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Nice one Putin . Cheap fuel here we come
Russia is great Grin
For now. Low oil price means all investments in oil production are canceled, resulting in oil shortages later. Your only hope is unexpectedly high electric car production numbers, to offset a shrinking oil industry.
Glass half empty?
Just a subject that I find fascinating. These days oil is mostly used for transportation. I think a reasonable percentage of that will go electric in a shorter time than the time it takes to generate a return on new oil investments. Media gets all worked up about a couple percent changes in worldwide oil production, but turns a blind eye to demand that could fall faster than the oil industry can adapt to without big write-offs.

electric car
Poor resale value, [...]
I'm on the lookout for a second-hand Tesla, and unfortunately they have a very good resale value  Grin

Tesla also does not support the Nokia N900 running https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maemo 5 (still a better interface than both apple and android) Anyone else still using a phone with a battery manufactured in 2009?
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March 06, 2020, 05:05:00 PM

electric car

Too bad they suck.

Poor resale value, cannot be repaired easily, shitty design, not reliable and possibly dangerous. Worst of all worlds. Electric cars are just like iphones and I hate iphones even though I use one. (I use it because there isn't anything better and I hate google even more)

I was actually a fan of Tesla for a while but after reading the disadvantages, it lost its mojo pretty fast.
Android. All phones do the same things, and android is much cheaper.
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March 06, 2020, 05:07:30 PM

electric car

Too bad they suck.

Poor resale value, cannot be repaired easily, shitty design, not reliable and possibly dangerous. Worst of all worlds. Electric cars are just like iphones and I hate iphones even though I use one. (I use it because there isn't anything better and I hate google even more)

I was actually a fan of Tesla for a while but after reading the disadvantages, it lost its mojo pretty fast.
Android. All phones do the same things, and android is much cheaper.

My iphone 6s from 2015 still works like this is its first day. Find me an android phone from 2017 which is still in one piece.

Tried android before. They just suck.
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March 06, 2020, 05:10:04 PM

Nice one Putin . Cheap fuel here we come
Russia is great Grin
For now. Low oil price means all investments in oil production are canceled, resulting in oil shortages later. Your only hope is unexpectedly high electric car production numbers, to offset a shrinking oil industry.
Glass half empty?
Just a subject that I find fascinating. These days oil is mostly used for transportation. I think a reasonable percentage of that percentage will go electric in a shorter time than the time it takes to generate a return on new oil investments. Media gets all worked up about a couple percent changes in worldwide oil production, but turns a blind eye to demand that could fall faster than the oil industry can adapt to without big write-offs.

electric car
Poor resale value, [...]
I'm on the lookout for a second-hand Tesla, and unfortunately they have a very good resale value  Grin




Try living in the UK.  We have some of the most expensive fuel prices in the world
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March 06, 2020, 05:20:48 PM

electric car

Too bad they suck.

Poor resale value, cannot be repaired easily, shitty design, not reliable and possibly dangerous. Worst of all worlds. Electric cars are just like iphones and I hate iphones even though I use one. (I use it because there isn't anything better and I hate google even more)

I was actually a fan of Tesla for a while but after reading the disadvantages, it lost its mojo pretty fast.
Android. All phones do the same things, and android is much cheaper.

My iphone 6s from 2015 still works like this is its first day. Find me an android phone from 2017 which is still in one piece.

Tried android before. They just suck.
Sure, but iphones are literally ten times as expensive. Think it will last 20 years?
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March 06, 2020, 05:21:13 PM

My iphone 6s from 2015 still works like this is its first day. Find me an android phone from 2017 which is still in one piece.

Tried android before. They just suck.

Galaxy 4s mini is running just fine.
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March 06, 2020, 05:21:18 PM

Buying a car used to mean something.

You used to know that the car could live longer than you with proper maintenance.

Now they are becoming like cellphones. Use and throw away.

Me no likey.

They are trapped. They are coming up with these shitty cars because they want them to break apart fast and easily so you can buy another instead of sending it to the repairman.

Buy a tesla and see how much they'll pay for it 10 years later. Its worth will be nothing. Zero. Just like an old cellphone.
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March 06, 2020, 05:26:00 PM

Buying a car used to mean something.

You used to know that the car could live longer than you with proper maintenance.

Now they are becoming like cellphones. Use and throw away.

Me no likey.

They are trapped. They are coming up with these shitty cars because they want them to break fast and easily so you can buy another instead of sending it to repairman.

Buy a tesla and see how much they'll pay for it 10 years later. Its worth will be nothing. Zero. Just like an old cellphone.
I do agree on modern used cars: With back up camera, lane changing crap and all the other oddball bells that are required... well that shit breaks and the manufacturer won't carry parts forever. Eventually they will be used up, far earlier than older cars were.

Tesla's..... jury is out. There are a *LOT* fewer parts to break, the electronics are very well designed, and to be honest the body/suspension is fine. Lot of stupid little stuff to break (see above) but the motor and such should last for a long time.

The trick is the battery: When a cell blows in a string that string is dead. Lose enough strings and range suffers. I don't know how long tesla packs last, and I think they have spare strings in there which are switched in as older ones blow to maintain range. Which is why they can turn on "escape range" in disaster areas. However the design is closed, so finding out what's going on in the pack and in the electronics requires a lot of reverse engineering (which is way difficult if they encrypt the code on the chips, which they probably do).

So... hm?
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March 06, 2020, 05:29:14 PM

Even if these were true, I still don't want to drive a goddamn computer with wheels which some other guy can press a button and stop its engine.

Fuck this.

Fuck tesla.
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March 06, 2020, 05:33:27 PM

Even if these were true, I still don't want to drive a goddamn computer with wheels which some other guy can press a button and stop its engine.

Fuck this.

Fuck tesla.



Get one of these
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March 06, 2020, 05:34:37 PM

Even if these were true, I still don't want to drive a goddamn computer with wheels which some other guy can press a button and stop its engine.

Fuck this.

Fuck tesla.



Get one of these

Nah I'll be fine with a pre-owned Benz.
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The trick is the battery: When a cell blows in a string that string is dead. Lose enough strings and range suffers. I don't know how long tesla packs last, and I think they have spare strings in there which are switched in as older ones blow to maintain range. Which is why they can turn on "escape range" in disaster areas. However the design is closed, so finding out what's going on in the pack and in the electronics requires a lot of reverse engineering (which is way difficult if they encrypt the code on the chips, which they probably do).
So... hm?
There are no spare strings, only some models have a software-caped battery capacity that is temporary lifted in disasters. The battery management is closed but it's not too difficult to find a bad cell. The problem is that all the cells are glued to the cooling system and replacing a cell is next to impossible. They do put many cells in series paralel, with a fuse wire on each cell, so a misbehaving cell does not kill the battery, only reduces the capacity. (basically, if it shorts itself, the fuse of that cell is blown by the charger or all the other cells dumping there load into that cell.)
Tesla 3 has just 4 battery modules that could possibly be replaced, 2 long modules in the middle, and 2 shorter modules on the sides to give the front wheels some space. The trick to long lasting li-ion is keeping them balanced, both by tight manufacturing tolerances and good battery management electronics, and careful regulation of battery currents, voltages and temperature while charging and discharging.
Current Tesla batteries won't last 1M miles but that is what they are aiming for, including the batteries. How many car manufacturers are aiming for that kind of lifetime without major maintenance?
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March 06, 2020, 05:53:05 PM

Even if these were true, I still don't want to drive a goddamn computer with wheels which some other guy can press a button and stop its engine.

Fuck this.

Fuck tesla.
Totally agreed. My step 1 would be to pull out the cell phone or whatever runs that thing. If you don't have control over your car, you don't own your car.
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March 06, 2020, 05:57:00 PM

Even if these were true, I still don't want to drive a goddamn computer with wheels which some other guy can press a button and stop its engine.

Fuck this.

Fuck tesla.
Totally agreed. My step 1 would be to pull out the cell phone or whatever runs that thing. If you don't have control over your car, you don't own your car.


Remove the simcard and then you'll lose your warranty.  Cool Good luck with your local repair guy fixing that thing.
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March 06, 2020, 06:02:21 PM

Totally agreed. My step 1 would be to pull out the cell phone or whatever runs that thing. If you don't have control over your car, you don't own your car.
At least in Tesla's sold in the EU, they don't send any statistics to Tesla by default, just download software updates which you can deny. But enabling the sending of statistics does help improving the software (safety features and self-driving) for EU roads.
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March 06, 2020, 06:03:12 PM

In the first storm full of lightning, the molten car and you back home by taxi or gratin.
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March 06, 2020, 06:04:25 PM

Tesla and all other electric cars are trojan horses and we are actually paying money to get them.

Now think about it... it is crazy.

They should give us them for free for what they are taking from us. Tbh I still wouldn't drive one if it was free.
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Tesla and all other electric cars are trojan horses and we are actually paying money to get them.

Now think about it... it is crazy.

They should give them us for free for what they are taking from us. Tbh I still wouldn't drive one if it was free.
I love to have Horse instead of Electric Car  Cheesy
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Remove the simcard and then you'll lose your warranty.  Cool Good luck with your local repair guy fixing that thing.
It runs without the SIM card? Fuck I could deal with fixing the broken things, I figured it would shut down and display a large red dildo on the display.
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