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Question: Price Target for Nov. 30, 2024:
<$75K - 4 (3.3%)
$75K to $80K - 1 (0.8%)
$80K to $85K - 2 (1.7%)
$85K to $90K - 10 (8.3%)
$90K to $95K - 15 (12.4%)
$95K to $100K - 27 (22.3%)
>$100K - 62 (51.2%)
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May 06, 2020, 06:34:06 PM
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why is wordy man so wordy

Everyone needs a hobby.
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why is wordy man so wordy

Everyone needs a hobby.
In lock down its best. Wink
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May 06, 2020, 06:36:47 PM
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Not only does it show a higher type of price, but also the fact that the current expiration model is what makes it even more interesting, since it does not become a mathematical indicator that is always fulfilled, it leaves room for the fundamentals and emotions that they are so normal in the market.

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Plan B's new "S2FX" model shows a much higher #Bitcoin price than previously predictedDorso de la mano con el dedo índice señalando hacia abajo

Original S2F Model estimate (2020–2024): $56K #BTC.

New model S2FX (2020–2024): $288K #BTC.

More data, DYOR, and a big thanks to
@100trillionUSD
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Source: https://twitter.com/JWilliamsFstmed/status/1258030895220568064

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May 06, 2020, 06:53:18 PM

So dystopian...

What a knob.

I wasn't interested in the first place but became rather less interested during this recent fall with him desperately shuffling his cards saying 'guys, GUYs, the model still works. Sort of thing.'

As ever it would hit $288,000 for 0.1 seconds and then be back to five figures or less for years on end. Speculators themselves can fuck things up without government help.

I think his work is interesting but he shot himself in the foot by including price predictions. The story should have been about the cross-asset comparison framework in his last paper but since he put in $288k he basically destroyed his own thesis guaranteeing no one will care about or remember anything but that number. It's a huge red flag to me that he puts emphasis on price prediction rather than underlying cause and effect in what is billed as a scientific paper.

Almost any conversation in bitcoinlandia involves price predictions.

I don't know how anyone who is somewhat actively and ongoingly (like PlanB tends to be) involved in bitcoin discussions, rather than some detached dweeb (and there are plenty of them) trying to act like he/she understands bitcoin, can avoid it, even if attempting to present matters "academically."
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May 06, 2020, 07:04:39 PM
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So dystopian...

What a knob.

I wasn't interested in the first place but became rather less interested during this recent fall with him desperately shuffling his cards saying 'guys, GUYs, the model still works. Sort of thing.'

As ever it would hit $288,000 for 0.1 seconds and then be back to five figures or less for years on end. Speculators themselves can fuck things up without government help.

I’d rather go dark personally if Bitcoin goes $288k. Too much richness on display then.

Exactly this... criminals are going to look for big wallets and hunt down the peeps behind them...

If only there was some kind of less transparent anonymous alternative


hahahahaha... funny.... but still...


Pretty lame Globb0





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May 06, 2020, 07:08:15 PM

Anyone noticed that in the halving rally, BTC is outperforming the Top 10 alts? Generally, BTC move take others along and the lightweights perform better. Any speculation regarding this de-coupling?
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May 06, 2020, 07:37:02 PM

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Brings back fond memories of engineering school, where any student who submitted a chart with no labels on the axes would get himself torn a new posterior orifice.
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May 06, 2020, 07:41:06 PM

That's all very well and fascinating but sir, you need a hat.
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May 06, 2020, 07:50:00 PM

https://twitter.com/ColeGarnerBTC/status/1258048646756499456?s=20

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Small businesses are going bankrupt

People I know & love

But @justinsuntron

is too big to fail

Makes me furious

https://decrypt.co/27817/us-hands-justin-sun-a-2-million-coronavirus-relief-grant
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May 06, 2020, 07:53:30 PM


Yes, indeed. And it is not a new thing. Even back in roman times, there was someone who held a public speech. I don't remember what it was about, except for one thing.

Yes, obviously no man wants to live with a woman. But we have to, or we will have no more kids and Rome will be lost.

The current year is not a new thing. It is just a rare, but very historical, thing.
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May 06, 2020, 08:13:00 PM

What do y'all think, did I get scammed? I'll give the guy another 12 hours before I declare him as a scammer.

Mate, I hope you can be a bit faster in completing our trade:

Completing the full trade ($1000) with petahasher.

Sent the BTC to 3ELntVvTKzn1qT1Tgy5Jwk1CrcafTJeyk8, waiting for Skrill.

I don't think that it's a good idea to make someone wait for over 12 hours when you've not gone first in the trade. Roll Eyes

EDIT: Receiving no reply from @petahasher at Telegram either. Roll Eyes

He has been offline at Bitcointalk ever since I sent him the BTC. He seemed to have a lot of successful trades from some senior members around, that's why I went first in the trade.
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May 06, 2020, 08:18:28 PM

LS trolling in 3... 2... 1...

WTF? Too late  Roll Eyes

Today is your day, incoming hat, 3,2,1...

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What do y'all think, did I get scammed? I'll give the guy another 12 hours before I declare him as a scammer.

Mate, I hope you can be a bit faster in completing our trade:

Completing the full trade ($1000) with petahasher.

Sent the BTC to 3ELntVvTKzn1qT1Tgy5Jwk1CrcafTJeyk8, waiting for Skrill.

I don't think that it's a good idea to make someone wait for over 12 hours when you've not gone first in the trade. Roll Eyes

EDIT: Receiving no reply from @petahasher at Telegram either. Roll Eyes

He has been offline at Bitcointalk ever since I sent him the BTC. He seemed to have a lot of successful trades from some senior members around, that's why I went first in the trade.
Surely give some more time may be have some issue so just because of this unable to give you any reply on Telegram.
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May 06, 2020, 08:26:10 PM

People like this are not very reassuring to not-yet-coiners who might be interested in the space.
https://cointelegraph.com/news/ice-paid-loeffler-9-million-bonus-right-before-she-entered-the-senate
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Financial statement reviews show the Intercontinental Exchange, or ICE, gifted U.S. Senator Kelly Loeffler millions during her departure from its daughter company, Bakkt.
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May 06, 2020, 08:29:38 PM
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That's probably a pretty good idea, because many of us likely realize that there is no real "all or nothing" in this world, but there may be a lot of dissatisfaction that comes from striving towards an end goal that might never be achieved... however, that should not mean that we should not attempt to be in a place in which we are enjoying ourselves at a lot of points along the way.

Accordingly, we don't necessarily need to be able to say "fuck you" to the man and to be totally enabled to live on either passive income or in some citadel or island that we control in order to be happy, and each of us should be able to recognize that we always have a kind of island, but sure having more wealth gives us way more options within our own island.

So, for example, any of us who has 6 months to 12 months to even 1-2 years saved up in one form or another (whether we are referring to our bitcoin stash or some traditional investments or a combination of these), then we are going to be way more empowered to either say "no" to any employer who might be putting us in what we believe to be an unsafe situation or at least be able to negotiate better terms because we have more options.  So, even if that is not complete fuck you status, it could be something that is working in that direction, and gosh.. might be difficult to figure out, too, when "piss off" status might be achieved.

You hit the nail on the head from my point of view JJG: I don't have enough money to completely stop working (and I really wouldn't want to, I enjoy doing work much of the time), but I have enough to tide me over for a significant amount of time where I can find a job that I like, is not going to ask me to sacrifice myself, and is something that I could say does "good" in the world (for whatever definition of good is mine).

That's a pretty powerful place to be and bitcoin+savings+skills I have acquired in fixing and maintaining life's stuff is a big part of why I am where I am. I'm glad for it, it's something I have kind of lived my life with this in the background: The ability to walk away from bad situations and never be enslaved to someone or something. I stay, I work, I love because it's something I choose to do, not something I have to do.

You know, that's worth a lot more to me than a Lambo. But that's just me.

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Certainly, the amount of cushion that we had created for ourselves is going to help to some extent, and for younger folks a cushion does not always have to do with having a shit ton of assets, because young people might not have a lot of assets built up, but they have time and skills, and so sometimes they are able to leverage in terms of their time and skills rather than their built up assets.
Younger people have skills, adaptability, the ability to live in dumpsters/steam grates if needed, etc.. Knowing how to live on the streets or in complicated situations is an exceptionally good skill: In a way it can mean you don't have to stay in an abusive relationship for example. Yes it sucks, but it could suck less than other things. You have an option.

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I had been complaining a few weeks ago about how this whole situation is affecting people from a lot of social statuses, but surely the billionaires are likely the few that have been affected less, if they have a private plane and can fly to some location that is of their choosing, in the event that they may have found themselves in some location that is less ideal.. but probably even a lot of them have been negatively affected, even if they have quite a few more options than many of us relatively more normies... .I was not even thinking about the benefits of having my own plane or a helicopter or anything like this, but seems like it could provide options in times like these, that's for sure... oh multi-millionaires might also be able to aspire to private plan status, but surely those in regular fuck-off status would not have those kinds of options, and surely those in piss off status would not even really be considering those kinds of options (except maybe in a kind of fantasy consideration or maybe they would need bitcoin to do at least a 50x from here to be able to get too that private plane level).
Hm. The big trick about money is it can only buy what is for sale. No amount of money shoved into an engine can fix it by itself, and one of the consequences of this kind of disaster could be people having to figure stuff out for themselves instead of just buying the expertise. Example: Me. If I don't have a reasonable work environment, a purpose, and a goal then no amount of shoving money in my face will exceed the value of my life....

Shove bitcoin at me though.... :-)

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Would be quite strange if Bitcoin were to go shooting up, while the rest of the world burns,

Yeah... I dunno about that. All that newly-printed money has to go somewhere.

I mean, sure. All those pinstriped-bandit insiders that get the sweetheart deal financiializing everyone else's misery don't currently have a hard-on for Bitcoin. But when they see P/E ratios trending towards infinity? They'll be looking around for somewhere else to park their stolen riches. Bitcoin is as good as it gets from an honest analysis.
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May 06, 2020, 08:36:03 PM

You know, that's worth a lot more to me than a Lambo. But that's just me.

You're already rich, in a kinda spiritual way. (Can't find the words to describe it a lil better. I guess you got the point...)
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What do y'all think, did I get scammed? I'll give the guy another 12 hours before I declare him as a scammer.

Mate, I hope you can be a bit faster in completing our trade:

Completing the full trade ($1000) with petahasher.

Sent the BTC to 3ELntVvTKzn1qT1Tgy5Jwk1CrcafTJeyk8, waiting for Skrill.

I don't think that it's a good idea to make someone wait for over 12 hours when you've not gone first in the trade. Roll Eyes

EDIT: Receiving no reply from @petahasher at Telegram either. Roll Eyes

He has been offline at Bitcointalk ever since I sent him the BTC. He seemed to have a lot of successful trades from some senior members around, that's why I went first in the trade.

No please tell me this is not true... you're trying to say you've sent $1k worth of BTC first with no escrow to some random guy?  Huh You cannot be serious man...   Sad   I'm not even asking why you'd want to sell now for some filthy Skrill...
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May 06, 2020, 08:56:21 PM

Anyone noticed that in the halving rally, BTC is outperforming the Top 10 alts? Generally, BTC move take others along and the lightweights perform better. Any speculation regarding this de-coupling?

Standard behaviour when Bitcoin surges big time. Usually, it takes 2-3 weeks for alts to follow along but this time, it seems different. The future of alts seems bleaker.
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