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May 25, 2020, 02:08:28 PM


Brazils President. A well armed people can't be enslaved by tyrants.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1264263778620911616

thats a simple statement, while almost all simple statements turn out to be false.
Brazil got quite a number of gunshot kills per 100.000 nationals.
Too low for Nutsonaro?

Gunshot kills made by criminals to unarmed citizens who can't defend themselves, That's what he is changing.
If you know that you might get shot yourself if you shoot someone, you just might think twice before you shoot.
If good people have guns, bad people will hesitate to shoot them = fewer gun kills, how is that so hard for the stupid left to understand.


hmmmm

The facts and data don't really back that up at all though do they.
I've lived in the USA, and I've lived in Australia. Much, much, much less chance of being shot in Australia. That's a cold hard fact, no matter what you want to believe.

There is a decent argument to made about the enslaved by tyrants thing. Maybe a lot more gun deaths are worth that. But arguing from a "safer with more guns" perspective is not backed by anything except your feelings.

The problem I saw whilst living in the USA, was the people most likely to want a gun, were the people the least likely to have the mental or emotional ability to handle said gun responsibly. I completed a few courses, enough for concealed carry, and the majority of people in my courses couldn't hit a barn from 10 feet. Like not just bad, but fucking terrible. Knowing they owned guns was way more scary than a theoretical "bad guy"

You can't compare two very different countries, you numnut. You have to compare the same country before and after.
You had much less chance of being shot in Australia before you became collectively stupid and banned guns too.
I'm pretty sure that gun deaths didn't change much at all in Australia before and after the ban.
There is a lot of research on the issue, and as far as I recall, the verdict is: More guns in the hands of good people = less gun deaths.

If you do want to do the country comparison I will raise you Switzerland, where every citizen gets his or hers gun with him home after military service and where they can go in to any gun store and by any gun they damn well please, and yet, a very peaceful country.
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May 25, 2020, 02:12:46 PM

A while back I had Cannelloni for the first time in my life, I saw it in the ready foods section and thought I would try it out.
Big disappointment, it tasted exactly like lasagna, I could just as well have bought that.
I think I have figured Italian food out, they only have one dish but they serve it a little bit differently and give it a new name.
Ground meat with tomato sauce between pasta sheets and some cheese sprinkled on top = lasagna
Ground meat with tomato sauce between rolled up pasta sheets and some cheese sprinkled on top = cannelloni
Ground meat with tomato sauce in a heap of shredded pasta sheets with some cheese sprinkled on top = spaghetti
Ground meat with tomato sauce on a flat piece of almost pasta and some cheese sprinkled on top = Pizza
and so on.
I'm not trying any more versions of Italian food ever again.

Don't do that, Arrie, or you'll be missing out on some of the best tasting dishes you can eat...

I consider Italian cuisine as the best tasting food in the world.

Second best (for me) is Middle Eastern cuisine.

On the other side of the scale, the absolute worst has got to be English cuisine. I remember, when I was in the UK for studies, how I was horrified to be served grilled pork steak covered in some sweet jam, I think it was pineapple jam or something like that. The mixing of super sweet foods with normally salty stuff, like meat, is utterly disgusting to me. I had to endure it for 11 years...
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May 25, 2020, 02:14:29 PM

Ok First, I never lost taste!!
I lost smell, I could not smell the coffee, but I could taste if there was sugar in the coffee or not, understand?
And this was before I got sick.
And no, you can not convince me that Italian food is anything but versions of ground meat, tomato sauce, cheese and pasta. Because it is.
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May 25, 2020, 02:21:23 PM


Brazils President. A well armed people can't be enslaved by tyrants.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1264263778620911616

thats a simple statement, while almost all simple statements turn out to be false.
Brazil got quite a number of gunshot kills per 100.000 nationals.
Too low for Nutsonaro?

Gunshot kills made by criminals to unarmed citizens who can't defend themselves, That's what he is changing.
If you know that you might get shot yourself if you shoot someone, you just might think twice before you shoot.
If good people have guns, bad people will hesitate to shoot them = fewer gun kills, how is that so hard for the stupid left to understand.


hmmmm

The facts and data don't really back that up at all though do they.
I've lived in the USA, and I've lived in Australia. Much, much, much less chance of being shot in Australia. That's a cold hard fact, no matter what you want to believe.

There is a decent argument to made about the enslaved by tyrants thing. Maybe a lot more gun deaths are worth that. But arguing from a "safer with more guns" perspective is not backed by anything except your feelings.

The problem I saw whilst living in the USA, was the people most likely to want a gun, were the people the least likely to have the mental or emotional ability to handle said gun responsibly. I completed a few courses, enough for concealed carry, and the majority of people in my courses couldn't hit a barn from 10 feet. Like not just bad, but fucking terrible. Knowing they owned guns was way more scary than a theoretical "bad guy"

You can't compare two very different countries, you numnut. You have to compare the same country before and after.
You had much less chance of being shot in Australia before you became collectively stupid and banned guns too.
I'm pretty sure that gun deaths didn't change much at all in Australia before and after the ban.
There is a lot of research on the issue, and as far as I recall, the verdict is: More guns in the hands of good people = less gun deaths.

If you do want to do the country comparison I will raise you Switzerland, where every citizen gets his or hers gun with him home after military service and where they can go in to any gun store and by any gun they damn well please, and yet, a very peaceful country.
A major global report confirms gun-related homicides, suicides and accidents are falling in Australia after the introduction of anti-gun laws, and that the effect of such tough laws is similar elsewhere.
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May 25, 2020, 02:35:38 PM

A while back I had Cannelloni for the first time in my life, I saw it in the ready foods section and thought I would try it out.
Big disappointment, it tasted exactly like lasagna, I could just as well have bought that.
I think I have figured Italian food out, they only have one dish but they serve it a little bit differently and give it a new name.
Ground meat with tomato sauce between pasta sheets and some cheese sprinkled on top = lasagna
Ground meat with tomato sauce between rolled up pasta sheets and some cheese sprinkled on top = cannelloni
Ground meat with tomato sauce in a heap of shredded pasta sheets with some cheese sprinkled on top = spaghetti
Ground meat with tomato sauce on a flat piece of almost pasta and some cheese sprinkled on top = Pizza
and so on.
I'm not trying any more versions of Italian food ever again.

Don't do that, Arrie, or you'll be missing out on some of the best tasting dishes you can eat...

I consider Italian cuisine as the best tasting food in the world.

Second best (for me) is Middle Eastern cuisine.

On the other side of the scale, the absolute worst has got to be English cuisine. I remember, when I was in the UK for studies, how I was horrified to be served grilled pork steak covered in some sweet jam, I think it was pineapple jam or something like that. The mixing of super sweet foods with normally salty stuff, like meat, is utterly disgusting to me. I had to endure it for 11 years...

Now I never said anything about the taste, I said it was a disappointment, the disappointment was that it tasted like lasagna, not that it tasted bad, it didn't it was actually quite good.

Pork steak and jam actually sounds good, never had it but I will try it when I get to England, I haven't been there since I was 13 and I didn't particularly like it, I got the impression of old dirty and worn down. I was in London for a week with my parents, so maybe the countryside was beautiful, I don't know. As a grown up I have come to realize that maybe one week in London 46 years ago isn't much to judge a whole country on. And also, as I have watched programs from England, like that guy and his wife from Faulty towers who travel the canals, I have come to slowly change my view, it kind of looks good and pleasing to my eyes now.So I will at some point take a trip to England for a week or so, maybe a pilgrimage (by car) to Walsingham, just for fun, I'm not religious, but it sounded like a fun place to visit in a book I read.
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May 25, 2020, 02:41:41 PM


Brazils President. A well armed people can't be enslaved by tyrants.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1264263778620911616

thats a simple statement, while almost all simple statements turn out to be false.
Brazil got quite a number of gunshot kills per 100.000 nationals.
Too low for Nutsonaro?

Gunshot kills made by criminals to unarmed citizens who can't defend themselves, That's what he is changing.
If you know that you might get shot yourself if you shoot someone, you just might think twice before you shoot.
If good people have guns, bad people will hesitate to shoot them = fewer gun kills, how is that so hard for the stupid left to understand.


hmmmm

The facts and data don't really back that up at all though do they.
I've lived in the USA, and I've lived in Australia. Much, much, much less chance of being shot in Australia. That's a cold hard fact, no matter what you want to believe.

There is a decent argument to made about the enslaved by tyrants thing. Maybe a lot more gun deaths are worth that. But arguing from a "safer with more guns" perspective is not backed by anything except your feelings.

The problem I saw whilst living in the USA, was the people most likely to want a gun, were the people the least likely to have the mental or emotional ability to handle said gun responsibly. I completed a few courses, enough for concealed carry, and the majority of people in my courses couldn't hit a barn from 10 feet. Like not just bad, but fucking terrible. Knowing they owned guns was way more scary than a theoretical "bad guy"

You can't compare two very different countries, you numnut. You have to compare the same country before and after.
You had much less chance of being shot in Australia before you became collectively stupid and banned guns too.
I'm pretty sure that gun deaths didn't change much at all in Australia before and after the ban.
There is a lot of research on the issue, and as far as I recall, the verdict is: More guns in the hands of good people = less gun deaths.

If you do want to do the country comparison I will raise you Switzerland, where every citizen gets his or hers gun with him home after military service and where they can go in to any gun store and by any gun they damn well please, and yet, a very peaceful country.
A major global report confirms gun-related homicides, suicides and accidents are falling in Australia after the introduction of anti-gun laws, and that the effect of such tough laws is similar elsewhere.

That report is probably ordered and paid for by some gun hating left wing group who would clutch at any straw to make gun ownership look bad.
I don't have the time to dig for the reports I'm referring to, but you all know that they are out there.

And what's "A major global report" anyway, how does it differ from "a minor local report".
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May 25, 2020, 02:44:50 PM

You guys do realize that I'm just having fun about the Italian "cooking" though, don't you, although there is some truth to my statement.
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That is one spicy meat a ball! Grin
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May 25, 2020, 03:13:21 PM

You guys do realize that I'm just having fun about the Italian "cooking" though, don't you, although there is some truth to my statement.

I have just three words for you: change your cook! Grin
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May 25, 2020, 03:21:39 PM

Can CW please crawl into the nearest cave & die now. What’s paedo Ayre got to say about this latest debacle?
We’re sub $9,000 again but our time in the sun will come, we’re just kinda floating through the days, waiting for the inevitable catalyst to start the bull run for real. Continue to stack stats girls, the current cheap price won’t be around forever.

He said those addresses were from the "possible list" the real list came later and is not public.


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May 25, 2020, 03:43:56 PM

Look, I can kind of understand why BCH has some support. I think it's stupid, but I can see it.

But why the fuck would anyone continue to think faktoshi and BSV has any validity what-so-ever. He clearly has no idea what he is talking about. He had to plagiarise his phD, despite going to pretty much the worst University in Australia. He has been caught lying 987,392 987,393 times. He is a state loving boot licker. WTF is going on in these people's heads.

Having BSV as a worse scam does not justify supporting BCH.   Roll Eyes Tongue
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May 25, 2020, 03:55:25 PM

Look, I can kind of understand why BCH has some support. I think it's stupid, but I can see it.

But why the fuck would anyone continue to think faktoshi and BSV has any validity what-so-ever. He clearly has no idea what he is talking about. He had to plagiarise his phD, despite going to pretty much the worst University in Australia. He has been caught lying 987,392 987,393 times. He is a state loving boot licker. WTF is going on in these people's heads.

BSV is closer to old school, pre-segwit Bitcoin than BCH, aside from blocksize. BSV has an unlimited blocksize, while BCH is limited to 8mb blocks. Out of the two I'd prefer BSV.
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Video is bit old so last 4 months are missing.
Bitcoin: 11 Years in 11 Minutes
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With this decline into the $8.xxx range, I get a better feeling about the bottoming process I was writing about earlier.



It's not perfect but on the 4h chart we start seeing subsequent bottom slams into the RSI. I expect the price to linger for a while (up to 3 weeks). If we can avoid a larger dump, it will be our launch pad for the next attempt to decisively go beyond $10k.

Oh, and leaving the (fictitious) channel is not a problem. Because fictitious  Cool
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Look, I can kind of understand why BCH has some support. I think it's stupid, but I can see it.

But why the fuck would anyone continue to think faktoshi and BSV has any validity what-so-ever. He clearly has no idea what he is talking about. He had to plagiarise his phD, despite going to pretty much the worst University in Australia. He has been caught lying 987,392 987,393 times. He is a state loving boot licker. WTF is going on in these people's heads.

BSV is closer to old school, pre-segwit Bitcoin than BCH, aside from blocksize. BSV has an unlimited blocksize, while BCH is limited to 8mb blocks. Out of the two I'd prefer BSV.

Same thinking here. BSV is just a fine altcoin; it's actually better than XRP/Ethereum. If they can stop calling CSW their god, get rid of the "rEaL biTcOin" thing, attract more hashrate, get a change in name/rebranding, it'll be better for them. Craig is the biggest liar alive in crypto. I'm quite sure that if he had known he was going to face all of this in the future, he wouldn't have claimed to be Satoshi at all.

BCH, OTOH, shouldn't really be on the first page of CMC.
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That report is probably ordered and paid for by some gun hating left wing group who would clutch at any straw to make gun ownership look bad.
I don't have the time to dig for the reports I'm referring to, but you all know that they are out there.

And what's "A major global report" anyway, how does it differ from "a minor local report".
The paper appears to have been published in JAMA, Journal of the American Medical Association.
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2698492

JAMA currently has an Impact Factor of 51.3 (whoah!). For comparison, Science is 40, and Nature is 43. In order to maintain that kind of factor they have to publish pretty well peer-reviewed stuff.

So please stop it with the "you all know that they are out there" and either post peer reviewed facts or concede. Reality exists man, I really recommend living by it even when it is at odds with your person opinions/beliefs (as I did with the whole 140mph being safe thing).

(Note: A totally fair argument would be "I don't give a fuck if people die, I want my guns!". Use that instead if that's what you really mean)
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May 25, 2020, 04:16:30 PM

The joy of the 'clever' trader for his successful 10% cut loss from his initial stash was somewhat marred when he realized it was the 10th in a row.  Roll Eyes

Let's say starting with 1 BTC.. that would NOT be a 100% loss in the value from the initial stash. 

Rather the final amount of the stash would be a bit more than a 65% loss from the initial stash. 

Cut and pasted from my creation of a quickie Excel spreadsheet causes the pyramid of devaluation of the stash to look like this:

   1 BTC
1   0.9
2   0.81
3   0.729
4   0.6561
5   0.59049
6   0.531441
7   0.4782969
8   0.43046721
9   0.387420489
10   0.34867844 BTC

Surely, I would not be advocating any practice that results in continuous losses, so let's turn the scenario into a positive rather than a negative... let's say that instead of losing 10% on each trade, you are not greedy and you figure out a way to gain .1% on each trade.. after taxes and trading fees.   Of course, figuring out ways to profit are structural and depend upon how you value the wealth - whether you are stacking sats or stacking dollars and surely in bitcoin whenever you sell any BTC you have to be willing to let that BTC go.. because they price might never come back to that sales price... which means overstacking in BTC so that you are actually willing to sell it at prices that are lower than future prices.

Anyhow, because of the modesty in any plan, it takes a long time to gain value.. and if you stack for .1% profits in each trade, then after 10 trades you gain just a bit more than 1% on your trading stash...

   1 BTC
1   1.001
2   1.002001
3   1.003003001
4   1.004006004
5   1.00501001
6   1.00601502
7   1.007021035
8   1.008028056
9   1.009036084
10   1.01004512  BTC

Losses are not guaranteed and gains are not guaranteed, and personally I consider the trading of BTC to be insurance rather than measurable and meaningful gains, so on a personal level, I am not really pursuing the gains.. the gains are very modest in the whole scheme of things and are a kind of side benefit... and of course, there tend to be several third party risks that come with any kind of trading, too... so surely, no walk in the park for anyone to be playing around with trading.
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May 25, 2020, 04:41:02 PM

Ok First, I never lost taste!!
I lost smell, I could not smell the coffee, but I could taste if there was sugar in the coffee or not, understand?
And this was before I got sick.
And no, you can not convince me that Italian food is anything but versions of ground meat, tomato sauce, cheese and pasta. Because it is.

You must be feeling much MOAR better, Arriemoller. Congrats!!!!

You are back to arguing your same old self-absorbed nonsense... that would be quite difficult to replicate, except maybe by some other wishful-thinking pie in the sky narrow perspective nutjob.

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Yeah come off it, Arrie old boy. Italian is easily in the top 100 national cuisines.
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