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We might have a little bit of different ideas about masks, and I don't really consider them to be necessary when outdoors (especially if no one is around) or if you are in your car by yourself, so I have seen people wearing masks in those circumstances, and just seems to be overkill to me, but of course a personal choice, and great that they have masks, and  I understand that if someone just gets used to wearing a mask a lot of the time, then maybe they will fidget around less with it.

lotta cars have HEPA filters on the fresh air (cowl) intakes now. unsure what the rating is though.

check the manuals for your wheels.

and of course you need to know how to set the hvac controls correctly, including allowing for exhaust direction due to windows being open etc. rtfm dyor

maybe they are not enough, unsure but hey look it up for your make and model.

Well, perhaps the guy was driving from the hospital and just didn't want to remove the mask with his hands before washing them? Or he's some "essential worker"? 

[serveria.com]

https://www.amazon.com/Pizza-Daveed-Benito-Decor-Poster/dp/B07SQH7RGW

Happy Pizza Day, WO,s
Accompany with a good wine or champagne at the right temperature.

With a bod like that she can sit anywhere in my apartment. And I mean ANYWHERE... 

[Arriemoller]

Brazils President. A well armed people can't be enslaved by tyrants.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1264263778620911616

thats a simple statement, while almost all simple statements turn out to be false.
Brazil got quite a number of gunshot kills per 100.000 nationals.
Too low for Nutsonaro?

Gunshot kills made by criminals to unarmed citizens who can't defend themselves, That's what he is changing.
If you know that you might get shot yourself if you shoot someone, you just might think twice before you shoot.
If good people have guns, bad people will hesitate to shoot them = fewer gun kills, how is that so hard for the stupid left to understand.

[lightfoot]

The problem with that is, that the real idiots are all locked up inside.

Life must be great then.

Interesting side-note: I've spoken about driving my Porsche at >140mph on the highways comfortably during the earlier days of the lock-down. It is fast, comfortable, and I can do a 1 hour drive in about 30 minutes quite safely. Studies have come out that show the deaths per mile driven on highways have skyrocketed since the lock-down. Since I believe in reality and facts, I must conclude that speed limits+cops are important and even though I find 130+ to be completely safe in my car that is a subjective analysis that is contradicted by facts. Because contradictions do not exist my premises that speed limits+cops does not reduce deaths is wrong and I am slowing down.

I believe in correcting myself when in error. This is very important.

Agreed. I've been wearing my P100 NBC gear when going out, unlike cloth masks it actually will provide solid protection against a moron with a cough. However I have a limited supply of cartridges as I truly figured I would be dealing with nukes which have a shorter half life for the bad stuff. Running for a year is going to be complicated and no there are no spares to be found.

Totally disagreed.
I haven't worn a single mask or gloves, but I guess according to you, I'm an idiot and a moron.
BTW I would, if there was a reason.

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You disagree with my statement that I have a limited supply of cartridges? That's odd.

#stay safe
#stay locked
#stay scared

I like the #stayalive and #stayincontrol thing, my life is the most precious asset in the universe to me, and I will not sacrifice it to a God, Political party, or ideology. I'll trust facts, vetted by authoritative sources. Science, Nature, JAMA, and the like would be authoritative based on Impact score. Google+some shit poster on YouTube... less authoritative.

My point exactly in the first place.

There is no escaping this - that is - if you want an actual social life.

Sure there is. The goal is to either have it die out in the wild before I get it (see SARS, MERS, and the like where governments actually DID SOMETHING) or get it as late as possible to take advantage of the best medical information at the time. Couple of months ago I would have been shoved on a ventilator to die in agony. Two months ago I would be pumped full of that Trump shilled shit to make money for one of his friends. Last month I would have been injected with bleach.....

Thanks, but no.

[lightfoot]

We might have a little bit of different ideas about masks, and I don't really consider them to be necessary when outdoors (especially if no one is around) or if you are in your car by yourself, so I have seen people wearing masks in those circumstances, and just seems to be overkill to me, but of course a personal choice, and great that they have masks, and  I understand that if someone just gets used to wearing a mask a lot of the time, then maybe they will fidget around less with it.

lotta cars have HEPA filters on the fresh air (cowl) intakes now. unsure what the rating is though.

check the manuals for your wheels.

and of course you need to know how to set the hvac controls correctly, including allowing for exhaust direction due to windows being open etc. rtfm dyor

maybe they are not enough, unsure but hey look it up for your make and model.

Personally I'm not worried in my car or outdoors in general. Studies show this thing is mainly spread by closer contact so I gear up when going into a building or talk to a person closer than 6 feet (say like yesterday at the dump). No sense wasting the filters, and even though the respirator is really comfortable it's annoying to wear constantly (they are however designed for workers to spend 8 hours around asbestos/lead dust, so they are pretty nice)

Teslas have a NBC mode where the outside air is filtered then pumped into the cabin under positive pressure to keep cracks and seal leaks to a minimum. That to me is a bit much, and it can take a *month* to charge a Tesla from a 1kw solar array.

One big advantage of this virus over nuclear is that leaving the mask in the sun will kill the virus particles accumulated in the filters. This is a good thing.

Meantime, this is funny:

[Arriemoller]

A while back I had Cannelloni for the first time in my life, I saw it in the ready foods section and thought I would try it out.
Big disappointment, it tasted exactly like lasagna, I could just as well have bought that.
I think I have figured Italian food out, they only have one dish but they serve it a little bit differently and give it a new name.
Ground meat with tomato sauce between pasta sheets and some cheese sprinkled on top = lasagna
Ground meat with tomato sauce between rolled up pasta sheets and some cheese sprinkled on top = cannelloni
Ground meat with tomato sauce in a heap of shredded pasta sheets with some cheese sprinkled on top = spaghetti
Ground meat with tomato sauce on a flat piece of almost pasta and some cheese sprinkled on top = Pizza
and so on.
I'm not trying any more versions of Italian food ever again.

[dre1982]

A while back I had Cannelloni for the first time in my life, I saw it in the ready foods section and thought I would try it out.
Big disappointment, it tasted exactly like lasagna, I could just as well have bought that.
I think I have figured Italian food out, they only have one dish but they serve it a little bit differently and give it a new name.
Ground meat with tomato sauce between pasta sheets and some cheese sprinkled on top = lasagna
Ground meat with tomato sauce between rolled up pasta sheets and some cheese sprinkled on top = cannelloni
Ground meat with tomato sauce in a heap of shredded pasta sheets with some cheese sprinkled on top = spaghetti
Ground meat with tomato sauce on a flat piece of almost pasta and some cheese sprinkled on top = Pizza
and so on.
I'm not trying any more versions of Italian food ever again.

You're totally right. 

But the best way to eat tomato's and cheese is on the flat piece of almost paste 

[Room101]

Brazils President. A well armed people can't be enslaved by tyrants.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1264263778620911616

thats a simple statement, while almost all simple statements turn out to be false.
Brazil got quite a number of gunshot kills per 100.000 nationals.
Too low for Nutsonaro?

Gunshot kills made by criminals to unarmed citizens who can't defend themselves, That's what he is changing.
If you know that you might get shot yourself if you shoot someone, you just might think twice before you shoot.
If good people have guns, bad people will hesitate to shoot them = fewer gun kills, how is that so hard for the stupid left to understand.

hmmmm

The facts and data don't really back that up at all though do they.
I've lived in the USA, and I've lived in Australia. Much, much, much less chance of being shot in Australia. That's a cold hard fact, no matter what you want to believe.

There is a decent argument to made about the enslaved by tyrants thing. Maybe a lot more gun deaths are worth that. But arguing from a "safer with more guns" perspective is not backed by anything except your feelings.

The problem I saw whilst living in the USA, was the people most likely to want a gun, were the people the least likely to have the mental or emotional ability to handle said gun responsibly. I completed a few courses, enough for concealed carry, and the majority of people in my courses couldn't hit a barn from 10 feet. Like not just bad, but fucking terrible. Knowing they owned guns was way more scary than a theoretical "bad guy"

[lightfoot]

Well, perhaps the guy was driving from the hospital and just didn't want to remove the mask with his hands before washing them? Or he's some "essential worker"? 

Reasonable. My personal process is to open car door, remove mask with glove on (I wear one glove, it's for the "dirty" hand, my "clean" hand stays in my pocket), toss mask in back, remove glove inside out, toss glove in back, get in. That way I am not blowing virus particles around inside the car and the car itself is "clean".

Subjective, but gotta have some rituals. :-) N95 masks are positive vent, right? (ie when you exhale it goes out a one-way valve)

[psycodad]

A while back I had Cannelloni for the first time in my life, I saw it in the ready foods section and thought I would try it out.
Big disappointment, it tasted exactly like lasagna, I could just as well have bought that.
I think I have figured Italian food out, they only have one dish but they serve it a little bit differently and give it a new name.
Ground meat with tomato sauce between pasta sheets and some cheese sprinkled on top = lasagna
Ground meat with tomato sauce between rolled up pasta sheets and some cheese sprinkled on top = cannelloni
Ground meat with tomato sauce in a heap of shredded pasta sheets with some cheese sprinkled on top = spaghetti
Ground meat with tomato sauce on a flat piece of almost pasta and some cheese sprinkled on top = Pizza
and so on.
I'm not trying any more versions of Italian food ever again.

You know, the difference might actually be between ready food and freshly prepared food as I think convenience food tastes all the same (like sh*t) no matter what country it tries to pretend to be from.

Get yourself some recipes from Italy for example for a bolognese, fresh made pizza (yeah, you're gonna make your own dough in a few minutes and your own tomato sauce too) or simply penne all'arrabbiata. It's actually quicker to make a good pizza all yourself than driving 5min to the supermarket to buy a frozen convenience one.

On a different note: Didn't you lose your taste recently to Corona? Maybe try a shot of vinegar and see if it tastes like Lasagne too, just to make sure  *

* Just kidding, further quick recovery to you

[fillippone]

A while back I had Cannelloni for the first time in my life, I saw it in the ready foods section and thought I would try it out.
Big disappointment, it tasted exactly like lasagna, I could just as well have bought that.
I think I have figured Italian food out, they only have one dish but they serve it a little bit differently and give it a new name.
Ground meat with tomato sauce between pasta sheets and some cheese sprinkled on top = lasagna
Ground meat with tomato sauce between rolled up pasta sheets and some cheese sprinkled on top = cannelloni
Ground meat with tomato sauce in a heap of shredded pasta sheets with some cheese sprinkled on top = spaghetti
Ground meat with tomato sauce on a flat piece of almost pasta and some cheese sprinkled on top = Pizza
and so on.
I'm not trying any more versions of Italian food ever again.

Dear Lord, I leave the WO thread for a day or two and this is literally the first post I bump into.

You are right, ready foods taste all the same. But you houldn't extrapolate on all italian food, as @psychodad tried to explain to you.
Once you are having your taste back from Corona, please be my guest in your next trip to Italy.

[Arriemoller]

Brazils President. A well armed people can't be enslaved by tyrants.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1264263778620911616

thats a simple statement, while almost all simple statements turn out to be false.
Brazil got quite a number of gunshot kills per 100.000 nationals.
Too low for Nutsonaro?

Gunshot kills made by criminals to unarmed citizens who can't defend themselves, That's what he is changing.
If you know that you might get shot yourself if you shoot someone, you just might think twice before you shoot.
If good people have guns, bad people will hesitate to shoot them = fewer gun kills, how is that so hard for the stupid left to understand.

hmmmm

The facts and data don't really back that up at all though do they.
I've lived in the USA, and I've lived in Australia. Much, much, much less chance of being shot in Australia. That's a cold hard fact, no matter what you want to believe.

There is a decent argument to made about the enslaved by tyrants thing. Maybe a lot more gun deaths are worth that. But arguing from a "safer with more guns" perspective is not backed by anything except your feelings.

The problem I saw whilst living in the USA, was the people most likely to want a gun, were the people the least likely to have the mental or emotional ability to handle said gun responsibly. I completed a few courses, enough for concealed carry, and the majority of people in my courses couldn't hit a barn from 10 feet. Like not just bad, but fucking terrible. Knowing they owned guns was way more scary than a theoretical "bad guy"

You can't compare two very different countries, you numnut. You have to compare the same country before and after.
You had much less chance of being shot in Australia before you became collectively stupid and banned guns too.
I'm pretty sure that gun deaths didn't change much at all in Australia before and after the ban.
There is a lot of research on the issue, and as far as I recall, the verdict is: More guns in the hands of good people = less gun deaths.

If you do want to do the country comparison I will raise you Switzerland, where every citizen gets his or hers gun with him home after military service and where they can go in to any gun store and by any gun they damn well please, and yet, a very peaceful country.

[AlcoHoDL]

A while back I had Cannelloni for the first time in my life, I saw it in the ready foods section and thought I would try it out.
Big disappointment, it tasted exactly like lasagna, I could just as well have bought that.
I think I have figured Italian food out, they only have one dish but they serve it a little bit differently and give it a new name.
Ground meat with tomato sauce between pasta sheets and some cheese sprinkled on top = lasagna
Ground meat with tomato sauce between rolled up pasta sheets and some cheese sprinkled on top = cannelloni
Ground meat with tomato sauce in a heap of shredded pasta sheets with some cheese sprinkled on top = spaghetti
Ground meat with tomato sauce on a flat piece of almost pasta and some cheese sprinkled on top = Pizza
and so on.
I'm not trying any more versions of Italian food ever again.

Don't do that, Arrie, or you'll be missing out on some of the best tasting dishes you can eat...

I consider Italian cuisine as the best tasting food in the world.

Second best (for me) is Middle Eastern cuisine.

On the other side of the scale, the absolute worst has got to be English cuisine. I remember, when I was in the UK for studies, how I was horrified to be served grilled pork steak covered in some sweet jam, I think it was pineapple jam or something like that. The mixing of super sweet foods with normally salty stuff, like meat, is utterly disgusting to me. I had to endure it for 11 years...

[Arriemoller]

Ok First, I never lost taste!!
I lost smell, I could not smell the coffee, but I could taste if there was sugar in the coffee or not, understand?
And this was before I got sick.
And no, you can not convince me that Italian food is anything but versions of ground meat, tomato sauce, cheese and pasta. Because it is.

[gwaur]

Brazils President. A well armed people can't be enslaved by tyrants.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1264263778620911616

thats a simple statement, while almost all simple statements turn out to be false.
Brazil got quite a number of gunshot kills per 100.000 nationals.
Too low for Nutsonaro?

Gunshot kills made by criminals to unarmed citizens who can't defend themselves, That's what he is changing.
If you know that you might get shot yourself if you shoot someone, you just might think twice before you shoot.
If good people have guns, bad people will hesitate to shoot them = fewer gun kills, how is that so hard for the stupid left to understand.

hmmmm

The facts and data don't really back that up at all though do they.
I've lived in the USA, and I've lived in Australia. Much, much, much less chance of being shot in Australia. That's a cold hard fact, no matter what you want to believe.

There is a decent argument to made about the enslaved by tyrants thing. Maybe a lot more gun deaths are worth that. But arguing from a "safer with more guns" perspective is not backed by anything except your feelings.

The problem I saw whilst living in the USA, was the people most likely to want a gun, were the people the least likely to have the mental or emotional ability to handle said gun responsibly. I completed a few courses, enough for concealed carry, and the majority of people in my courses couldn't hit a barn from 10 feet. Like not just bad, but fucking terrible. Knowing they owned guns was way more scary than a theoretical "bad guy"

You can't compare two very different countries, you numnut. You have to compare the same country before and after.
You had much less chance of being shot in Australia before you became collectively stupid and banned guns too.
I'm pretty sure that gun deaths didn't change much at all in Australia before and after the ban.
There is a lot of research on the issue, and as far as I recall, the verdict is: More guns in the hands of good people = less gun deaths.

If you do want to do the country comparison I will raise you Switzerland, where every citizen gets his or hers gun with him home after military service and where they can go in to any gun store and by any gun they damn well please, and yet, a very peaceful country.

A major global report confirms gun-related homicides, suicides and accidents are falling in Australia after the introduction of anti-gun laws, and that the effect of such tough laws is similar elsewhere.

[Arriemoller]

A while back I had Cannelloni for the first time in my life, I saw it in the ready foods section and thought I would try it out.
Big disappointment, it tasted exactly like lasagna, I could just as well have bought that.
I think I have figured Italian food out, they only have one dish but they serve it a little bit differently and give it a new name.
Ground meat with tomato sauce between pasta sheets and some cheese sprinkled on top = lasagna
Ground meat with tomato sauce between rolled up pasta sheets and some cheese sprinkled on top = cannelloni
Ground meat with tomato sauce in a heap of shredded pasta sheets with some cheese sprinkled on top = spaghetti
Ground meat with tomato sauce on a flat piece of almost pasta and some cheese sprinkled on top = Pizza
and so on.
I'm not trying any more versions of Italian food ever again.

Don't do that, Arrie, or you'll be missing out on some of the best tasting dishes you can eat...

I consider Italian cuisine as the best tasting food in the world.

Second best (for me) is Middle Eastern cuisine.

On the other side of the scale, the absolute worst has got to be English cuisine. I remember, when I was in the UK for studies, how I was horrified to be served grilled pork steak covered in some sweet jam, I think it was pineapple jam or something like that. The mixing of super sweet foods with normally salty stuff, like meat, is utterly disgusting to me. I had to endure it for 11 years...

Now I never said anything about the taste, I said it was a disappointment, the disappointment was that it tasted like lasagna, not that it tasted bad, it didn't it was actually quite good.

Pork steak and jam actually sounds good, never had it but I will try it when I get to England, I haven't been there since I was 13 and I didn't particularly like it, I got the impression of old dirty and worn down. I was in London for a week with my parents, so maybe the countryside was beautiful, I don't know. As a grown up I have come to realize that maybe one week in London 46 years ago isn't much to judge a whole country on. And also, as I have watched programs from England, like that guy and his wife from Faulty towers who travel the canals, I have come to slowly change my view, it kind of looks good and pleasing to my eyes now.So I will at some point take a trip to England for a week or so, maybe a pilgrimage (by car) to Walsingham, just for fun, I'm not religious, but it sounded like a fun place to visit in a book I read.

[Lambie Slayer]

[Arriemoller]

Brazils President. A well armed people can't be enslaved by tyrants.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1264263778620911616

thats a simple statement, while almost all simple statements turn out to be false.
Brazil got quite a number of gunshot kills per 100.000 nationals.
Too low for Nutsonaro?

Gunshot kills made by criminals to unarmed citizens who can't defend themselves, That's what he is changing.
If you know that you might get shot yourself if you shoot someone, you just might think twice before you shoot.
If good people have guns, bad people will hesitate to shoot them = fewer gun kills, how is that so hard for the stupid left to understand.

hmmmm

The facts and data don't really back that up at all though do they.
I've lived in the USA, and I've lived in Australia. Much, much, much less chance of being shot in Australia. That's a cold hard fact, no matter what you want to believe.

There is a decent argument to made about the enslaved by tyrants thing. Maybe a lot more gun deaths are worth that. But arguing from a "safer with more guns" perspective is not backed by anything except your feelings.

The problem I saw whilst living in the USA, was the people most likely to want a gun, were the people the least likely to have the mental or emotional ability to handle said gun responsibly. I completed a few courses, enough for concealed carry, and the majority of people in my courses couldn't hit a barn from 10 feet. Like not just bad, but fucking terrible. Knowing they owned guns was way more scary than a theoretical "bad guy"

You can't compare two very different countries, you numnut. You have to compare the same country before and after.
You had much less chance of being shot in Australia before you became collectively stupid and banned guns too.
I'm pretty sure that gun deaths didn't change much at all in Australia before and after the ban.
There is a lot of research on the issue, and as far as I recall, the verdict is: More guns in the hands of good people = less gun deaths.

If you do want to do the country comparison I will raise you Switzerland, where every citizen gets his or hers gun with him home after military service and where they can go in to any gun store and by any gun they damn well please, and yet, a very peaceful country.

A major global report confirms gun-related homicides, suicides and accidents are falling in Australia after the introduction of anti-gun laws, and that the effect of such tough laws is similar elsewhere.

That report is probably ordered and paid for by some gun hating left wing group who would clutch at any straw to make gun ownership look bad.
I don't have the time to dig for the reports I'm referring to, but you all know that they are out there.

And what's "A major global report" anyway, how does it differ from "a minor local report".

[Arriemoller]

You guys do realize that I'm just having fun about the Italian "cooking" though, don't you, although there is some truth to my statement.

[rdbase]

That is one spicy meat a ball!