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May 12, 2022, 06:08:30 AM

In 2000 internet/biotech led the decline, followed by SP500 cratering within 6-10mo.

This time, "crypto", biotech and "internet" (FAANG) are cratering (at -50-60% already).
Maybe a bounce in June-July, then a true SP500 crash in the Fall, as usual?
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May 12, 2022, 06:10:39 AM

It's not that you are the first to note that bitcoin periodically retests 200 WMA, far from it, so it is not really that big of a deal if it happens (or not).
But...have a cookie.

But some people here said it won't happen because Saylor and EL SALVADOR is on the boat with them.
Haha, What's the point of being in the market since 2014 if you can't see a similar pattern. (Not you Biodom, I like your cookie).

Nevermind. Have fun buying.
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Each BTC sold is having a buyer, some are selling at crazy low prices and some are doing the deals of a lifetime…

Fortunately, I can consider myself in the latter.
HODL mode is activated.
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May 12, 2022, 06:14:59 AM

And did it ever came to your mind, that your idea was in fact stupid, and you just got it right out of pure coincidence?
Don't you think there is the possibility that your TA has absolutely nothing to do with you being right, this time?

You haven't seen my other ideas. I won't call my idea stupid or coincidence.
I called that BTC will touch 200 Weekly Moving Average, so falling on that trendline is part of it.
My TA has absolutely everything to do with me being right this time, thanks for your time though.


I mean:
Your TA can be right or wrong. But it being right (or wrong) can be totally independent from any TA skill you might have.

You will probably notice, when your TA is failing you big time. And I promise, in bitcoinlandia you will make that experience, no matter how much confidence you have in your TA.
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And did it ever came to your mind, that your idea was in fact stupid, and you just got it right out of pure coincidence?
Don't you think there is the possibility that your TA has absolutely nothing to do with you being right, this time?

You haven't seen my other ideas. I won't call my idea stupid or coincidence.
I called that BTC will touch 200 Weekly Moving Average, so falling on that trendline is part of it.
My TA has absolutely everything to do with me being right this time, thanks for your time though.


I mean:
Your TA can be right or wrong. But it being right (or wrong) can be totally independent from any TA skill you might have.

You will probably notice, when your TA is failing you big time. And I promise, in bitcoinlandia you will make that experience, no matter how much confidence you have in your TA.


So from "This time" to Future analysis, funny how the odds changed.
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May 12, 2022, 06:20:32 AM
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Remember all that volatility in the past? It looks flat now.

Those dumps from past years until now will look the same by 2025-2030 ore so.

If you can't handle the dumps you ain't worth the pumps.

Anyway, had a nice breakfast and took a big scoop pre workout supplement. Going to destroy the gym. Smiley

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May 12, 2022, 06:21:27 AM

"A picture is worth a thousand words".
This is the time to buy and hold. BTC

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And did it ever came to your mind, that your idea was in fact stupid, and you just got it right out of pure coincidence?
Don't you think there is the possibility that your TA has absolutely nothing to do with you being right, this time?

You haven't seen my other ideas. I won't call my idea stupid or coincidence.
I called that BTC will touch 200 Weekly Moving Average, so falling on that trendline is part of it.
My TA has absolutely everything to do with me being right this time, thanks for your time though.


I mean:
Your TA can be right or wrong. But it being right (or wrong) can be totally independent from any TA skill you might have.

You will probably notice, when your TA is failing you big time. And I promise, in bitcoinlandia you will make that experience, no matter how much confidence you have in your TA.


So from "This time" to Future analysis, funny how the odds changed.

Is it so difficult to understand?  

This Terra thingy has nothing to do with your TA.
--> So there is the possibility that you being right has not much to do with your TA skill.

I get it, you want to believe that your skill made you being right.

But you probably will be humbled, when your "skill" fails you big time... like it happend to Masterluc PlanB and others before

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"A picture is worth a thousand words".
This is the time to buy and hold. BTC



There are a lot of metrics that show buyers of the current situation will be well rewarded in the future. I think all these metrics leave out the mtgox coin distribution event. It may be that there’s money on the sidelines waiting for those coins to buy, but it’s also possible the market is exhausted and those coins will send Bitcoin plummeting again. It’s not quite as riskless as the technical analysis show. It’s also possible that talk of mtgox coins coming soon is just rumors and the distribution drags on for years while an ETF gets approved. The only thing that seems certain is that there will be lots of volatility coming down the pipeline.
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May 12, 2022, 06:59:28 AM
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Remember all that volatility in the past? It looks flat now.


Anyway, had a nice breakfast and took a big scoop pre workout supplement. Going to destroy the gym. Smiley



Same-ish morning brother

Btw try out Crossfit

It’s literally the best and most fun ever

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Jay, you indicated somewhere earlier that not everybody loses money with margin.  I said that it is insane to take margin-account loan terms "for almost any purpose".  I did not fit into that tiny little "almost"!


For sure, I am not referring to balls to the walls employment of margin when I am suggesting that there are ways to structure margin and use it to help you to prepare for price moves in either direction.

I don't use those kinds of techniques myself - even though I have used various kinds of debt to buy BTC... ..

You could imagine that if someone has 1 BTC that he bought at $40k.. To protect himself for the downside, he might enter a short of 0.05 BTC which would be 1/20th of the value of his holdings.. So if the BTC price goes up to $42k he loses the 0.05 BTC but his remaining 1 BTC goes up in value an equivalent amount so he ends up breaking even in dollar value, but if the BTC price goes down to $36k or lower, he could end up cashing in and making decent money on the .05 BTC that he used to short even though his 1BTC goes down in value.. that is what I mean by ways to structure in order to use the margin to prepare for either price direction, even though I may have gotten some of the details wrong since shorting BTC and even using margin is not part of something that I actually do.

You make less money when you hedge with margin, but you are better prepared for either price direction if that is what you are wanting to do.

You do not have to use margin to also prepare yourself for either price direction by selling small amounts on the way up and buying on the way down.. but for sure, I am not suggesting to sell large amounts.. you sell something less than 1%  for every 10% the BTC price goes up and you also only sell from your BTC profits... and you are also prepared to accept not buying back if the BTC price never comes back down.. so in that regard, it would help your situation to only engage in such practice if you are already overinvested into BTC and decently already in profits when you are regularly selling on the way up.

For someone who did something terrifically stupid to get into this mess, I think I am actually not so stupid.  After all, as I pleaded before, I was temporarily insane, not stupid. 

You are likely not stupid, even though we might question if there is much of a difference between being stupid and insane or even unable to control your emotions...

In any event, you seem to have the ability to structure your systems in advance but you fail/refuse to do it.

I pretty much already described what you need to do in terms of an overall long term strategy.. but you don't want to do it.. so what else can anyone do?  You can keep saying I almost struck it rich.  I almost made up for all of my losses of my last several gambles.  Maybe it does not even matter if you actually end up winning, because after you win you will just gamble it away on the next bet anyhow, no?

Jay's advice about DCA is sound for most people; indeed, I have passed it on to others before.  However, it does not fit my unusual circumstances.  In those circumstances, I was reasonably successful for the past few years until the moment that I took debt against BTC.

Don't use debt then.  DCA is a good foundational approach as well as combining it with lump sum investing and buying on dips, but DCA remains  the pillar around which those other strategies are built.. whether you might be front loading your DCA or tweaking it up or down fro time to time in order to attempt to prepare for buying on dips..or letting off on buying when BTC prices rise.. and of course, way more options come available to you when your portfolio grows much larger and you get into significant profits... which surely could take a lot of time, even quite a bit more than the 4 years that you say that you have been into BTC.. I have been in more than twice as long and surely each cycle feels better, but at the same time, we all make mistakes along the way too that will take away from some of our abilities to feel 100% confident.. but surely higher levels of confidence do seem like they come and surely if you have spent a decent amount of time building your portfolio, there should also be some reservations to gamble away large amounts of it too.. so there may well be a tendency for guys (and gal) who have built relatively large amounts of value to stay away from very much gambling or playing around and even 10% of your portfolio will seem like too much to be fucking around with.

So the longer that you are in, the more likely that you should be in profits.. especially with such a great asset like BTC and it is too bad, death_wish, that you are playing around so much that you are converting an almost inevitable winner into a loser.

Jay, this experience with margin has ruined years of my patient effort.  I had financial success - not riches, nowhere near real riches, but "this is finally beginning to look pretty good".  Then, I rapidly ruined it with a few little errors in judgment.  Even if I can salvage my remaining BTC, it may take me a long time to rebuild.

Well you are not likely to win or to fix your ways if you keep on playing around with playing with margin that might well convert an investment into a gamble.. which even if win many times, if you do not stack away your winnings, you may well end up losing all of your winnings on one bad results.. which seems to be a frequent story with gamblers.. they are winning and winning and winning and even to make up for earlier losses... but also at some point, you cannot make up for all the time that you could have been stacking with a more solid (but less exciting) formula for success.
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$25,600 on BUSD, $27,100 on USDT. ??


EDIT: There it is. $24.7k, This is the realized bitcoin price.
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Hold On Please!
55%+ Down is already huge for me!

My family won't trust me anymore.
Why? Did you tell them to invest without telling them about the risks?
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A direct reference of the Coinbase quote (see @Heuristic post) from their 10-Q:

https://twitter.com/sophiamzaller/status/1524150654897463302

seems to be accurate...



When have I ever provided inaccurate info? Wink

That's a good question.


Hm?


You deserve a batslappening for providing confusion during our current difficult times...




referring to wee poor widdow king daddy.. not having a good day.













Some D*ckheads who didn't believed my idea and called it stupid:

Surely not becoming behavior.

You really deserve a batslappening for that.
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Didn't see this lay out before

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May 12, 2022, 07:40:24 AM

Tether taking a shit now too; whole market in panic it seems.

Oh well

It feels weird to not give a fuck when everything is burning around you. Take care out there lads and stay safe. Anyone who is feeling shit, my PM's are always open if you need an ear to listen to ya Smiley
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May 12, 2022, 07:41:40 AM

You really deserve a batslappening for that.

Haha, I am sorry but I was too excited. It feels so good that Mr JJG is finally wrong huh?
Don't worry, I am in your team now. I don't wish BTC down anymore as my targets/orders has been filled.
I am all in. (sort of). Good luck to you and everyone else in this journey.
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May 12, 2022, 07:44:05 AM

Hold On Please!
55%+ Down is already huge for me!

My family won't trust me anymore.
Why? Did you tell them to invest without telling them about the risks?

No, I invested my 80%+ Savings in Bitcoin. Of course for the long term. But, I am afraid of urgent needs. No one knows what will happen tomorrow.


Guys, the Most Popular Stable coin USDT AKA Teather Hits $0.94 Today. What is the definition of StableCoin?
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