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This is How Blockchain Works Huh
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Check the Real time Block mining i hope you wont regret.

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It's a reality that no one cares something that's price is cheap, no matter how much valua it has.





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If whole world is under debt then who is the lender Huh

Great question, think again.. I will give you some more minutes.. 3.. 2.. 1.. Okay you couldn't figure it out, maybe it's us the people who are lending them money for their shit in terms of Tax?

It no doesn't work like that.

The government's receipt of tax would be an actual asset onto the balance sheet of dee gob ment and reduce the amount of their debt.....    

A debt means that the gob mnt... has been too scared (or sneaky) to actually levy a tax that would show how much things actually cost (or how much they are spending), so instead, they do the chicken shit action of getting the money anyhow by issuing debt and.. they are borrowing from rich people and countries (who may have had to pay taxes in the past, but instead these entities do not pay tax (or frequently they are not paying as much tax as they are claiming to pay.. through their whining..), instead the rich peeps, companies and even udder gobermnts lend money to the various gob ermnts and receive interest on how much they lend.... .. however, when they start to lose confidence in the gob mnts willingness or ability to pay back (or even the fact that some of the gobernments might start seizing accounts), then they lose confidence and they do not want to lend anymore....  

because they do not want debts denominated in an asset that might go to zero or get seized... so then at that point, sometimes the governments will make matters worse by buying their own debts in a kind of circle jerk.. which surely is through money printing (even though they say that it is not)... .. and of course, the people do end up paying for all of this in the end because the prices go up because the money is way less scarce... and not really based on anything.. and taxes are not covering expenses.. which also leads to a kind of snowballing effects of desperation in that the governments want to start taxing more when they probably should have either been taxing more from the start or at least living within their means from the start, but hey, it is too late for any of that kind of prudence.. so they still get desperate to receive taxes because even they know that the money printing cycle is not sustainable..

seems like a mess and seems like we have no way out of this mess.. right?.   I cannot think of any way out, except to be depressed about the whole matter.

Here is list of top indebted countries of the world.

Almost all big economic powers like USA, Japan, China are prominent in this list.

If whole world is under debt then who is the lender Huh




Source: VGraphs Facebook Page

The United States of America is in debt to me and my wife.

In fact any US citizen can buy an I bond and the US gov will be in debt to them.

My wife and I plan to increase the USA’s debt to us every year for the next five years.

Even if you are wanting to stay somewhat liquid, that's a pretty dumb investment...

Have you ever heard of Cornz..? I think they call it dee cornz.

Here is list of top indebted countries of the world.

Almost all big economic powers like USA, Japan, China are prominent in this list.

If whole world is under debt then who is the lender Huh


Source: VGraphs Facebook Page
Most of these loans are from their own people. Like the countries take loans from their people primarily selling bonds. Insurance companies and pension funds lend money to the govt by collecting bonds. Other countries, IMF, the world bank, and JAICA are also some sources of funds for the under develop and developing countries.

Various governments mandate certain investment funds to have to buy a certain level of bonds.. something like 40%.. so yeah, they lock in purchasers of their shitty bonds, but in times like these, these guys who are forced to invest in bonds with their funds (and even their quasi-public pooled funds) are likely going to get more and more disgruntled regarding how the bond portions are ongoingly dragging down the performance of their whole investment portfolios.. and even causing disgruntlement of the end users too. .who want to be able to live off of the appreciation of their investments.. which are underperforming the market and even underperforming the cost of living.. real negative returns on an ongoing basis is not good for morale.. Maybe at some point they will be able to have some flexibility to diversify some of their managed funds into some likely to be higher performing assets (if they could figure out what the higher performing asset might be? and how to diversify such fund.. 1% to 25%.. and can even error on the lower side of the amount and do much better.. methinks.. . .no guarantees of course... but we have some ongoingly trying times in front of us regarding how some of these funds are going to continue to perform, no? and will disgruntledness lead to insolvencies, too?.. or at least cuts in how much benefits some of those funds can pay out and maintain sustainability... did you hear about the Canadian trust fund that invested in Celsius?. these entities are desperate and greedy for returns.. ).
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Eventually all CEX exchanges will end up like this. You can't avoid KYC/AML laws. Best one could do is be based on some tax haven and hope they aren't forced by some supranational entity, but the way I see it is that even tax havens will be a thing of the past within the next decade or two. All exchanges that get big enough will get forced to comply. Add in the fact that they will remove cash. Basically you'll have no way out to the fiat world without KYC.

Wait, has anyone here thought of dodging the KYC requirements by buying mining gear beforehand, like a dozen or so Antminer s9's, and then showing them the receipt when they are confronted with KYC?

That would be a good scheme, pretending that you're making a steady amount of BTC per day pool mining. Most exchange employees can't do the math with miner ROI and profitability.
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If whole world is under debt then who is the lender Huh


This YouTube explains how it works. Same principle for banking systems in the rest of the world...

https://youtu.be/iFDe5kUUyT0
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Eventually all CEX exchanges will end up like this. You can't avoid KYC/AML laws. Best one could do is be based on some tax haven and hope they aren't forced by some supranational entity, but the way I see it is that even tax havens will be a thing of the past within the next decade or two. All exchanges that get big enough will get forced to comply. Add in the fact that they will remove cash. Basically you'll have no way out to the fiat world without KYC.

I think right now you can not get out of the fiat world without leaving any trace. You must have to jump into the crypto world through a fiat gateway that has your KYC. We are still forcefully connected with the fiat world.

Fiat has its limitations and crypto as well. There are many problems that crypto is solving that fiat can not but most of this has been done by some individual companies and users have to switch from different service providers or crypto companies to do some staff. The Crypto world is like a messed up unguided place with tons of projects. This unguided territory also makes this place boundless which speeds up the rate of new ideas and innovation.

What is crypto..?  and crypto world?

OMG...  Shocked Shocked Shocked

... crypto world ....
... crypto is solving.......crypto companies.... to do some staff ....Crypto world is like .....
is this cRyPTo wOrLd with us in the room, right now??

Or, are you talking about useless pump&dump shitcoins, here ? 

Go 'n get some bat-slaps from JJG

Hahahaha

I was beaten to the punch.... no problema..
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Surely needs KYC.
But does anyone need this?
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This is hyuge!


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I cannot think of any way out, except to be depressed about the whole matter.

The only way out is to scrap the whole fucking system and design a new one.

I recommend it being based on time as the commodity and that time can then be ratioed for everything of value.

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This is hyuge!



They have had their Binance Visa card for several years now.  

Isn't that just the Master Card version of it?


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Don't want to spoil any fun in the bear market boredom.  But I'm honestly curious...


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Maybe we aren't in a bear market but just in a temporary summer correction... Cool
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I cannot think of any way out, except to be depressed about the whole matter.
The only way out is to scrap the whole fucking system and design a new one.

I recommend it being based on time as the commodity and that time can then be ratioed for everything of value.

The world no doesn't work like that.

We are likely going to have several systems operating at once, and there will be violence and volatility along the way, and the most valuable (sound money based) of systems are likely going to continue to gravitate money (value) into them.

I think that we would be totally fucked in the event that some current systems were to be totally overthrown and abandoned - while at the same time some of the current systems are going to die through attrition and/or have to adapt to systems that are likely going to be tied to the King.

Furthermore, shitcoins are likely going to continue to exist and persist for at least an additional 50 years, and more likely more than 100 years because overall people are too dumb (or maybe too smart) in their various ongoing innovative ways to scam and get scammed by various kinds of  vapourware (reminds me of vapourminer to some extent.. hahahaha)...

I am not even proclaiming to have much if any kind of clues regarding how a lot of this is going to play out because, even if the violence that we experience is not always physically revolutionary in nature with physical/literal blood in the streets, there is likely going to be ongoing figurative blood from the so many dumb (or is it smart) fucks who think that they know better because it is always going to be "too late" to get into bitcoin, and I should have gotten in back when it was only "$1million" or whatever other number that seems out of reach on the downside.

Those of us who ongoingly attempt to mostly HODL our bitcoins will likely be fine to the extent that we are not tricked out of our own coins in terms of our own tendencies to sometimes lose our humility and think that we can take too many risks with our coins.. in terms of finding various balances to make sure that we attempt to keep feet in both worlds in order to attempt to NOT cause our lil selfies to become targets, but also at the same time attempting to figure out that we have systems in place in which we are not going to end up losing all of our coin.. including but not limited to leaving too many coins with third parties and/or perhaps creating our own security systems that either are too complicated for our own good or leave too many coins in one place as well... it continues to NOT be easy to be your own bank and also to attempt to figure out if there may well be some ways to tweak your own systems of storage of BTC and/or how you may well talk to others about your security of their security, and even if you may well want to be helpful to others, there are also needs to have systems in place that don't make it easy to get to your coins without permission.. .. it is scary too in terms of figuring out how to pass coins down as well, because we cannot have all of this information in our heads (about how to get to our coins).. so maybe trusting some people or trusting some instructions to be found in the event that some of us might bump our heads a wee bit too hard.. and do we really want to donate all of our coins (even if it might only be 0.63BTC or so) to the whole space.. rather than being able to pass such wealth to people of our own choosing, even if they might not actually deserve receipt of such wealth.

Do we write the instructions down somewhere?  has anything changed since we wrote out the instructions (need to update?)?, are the instructions sufficiently non-comprehensive as to NOT cause coins to become accessible to the wandering maid, .. if you leave fragments of keys with others, are they treating them sufficiently seriously to have any clues about what to do with such fragments of keys? do you have redundant systems?  but not too redundant?  I don't fucking know.. ?  On a personal level I had some systems, but then recent revealed information really puts my previous systems into question, and I am not exactly sure about a solution that is sufficiently comfortable for me.. even if the system that I have in place may well still end up working if I got hit by an astroid today... James Webb, are you out there?  Can you see anything coming my way?

Maybe we aren't in a bear market but just in a temporary summer correction... Cool

I realize that you are likely joking.. but this is a serious matter.... so gotta speak sternly to uie pooie... think of this "little talk" as grandma lecturing you about getting cookie crumbs all over your new pajama top.. and treating you like a little slob from the street.. it does not feel good but it is necessary for grandma to do it


Sorry to rain on your lil bulltard parade.#nohomo

The reality is that we are in a bear market.  (I hate to present my lil selfie with such seeming certainty - since it's somewhat out of character for me)

It's been confirmed since about early to mid-May when the BTC price dropped below $35k and failed to easily and quickly get back above that price point.  #juststating the obvious.

Bonus point... it's not really clear at what point we would be out of this particular bearmarket that we happen to be in.. but perhaps getting above $30k would be a good start.. even though getting close to $30k might also make some of us start to feel like saying we are out of the bearmarket, even though getting close to $30k would likely not be enough, either.
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Every couple of months or so, with a few mouse clicks, I convert all my accumulated rewards points on my daily use PayPal credit card into bitcoin.
I use the card for all my purchases and is paid off automatically every month with no interest.
Free bitcoin.
Pretty much a no brainer really.
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