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Most people expect some student loan cancellation tomorrow.
Imho, almost everyone would get mad. Some because they don't want anything cancelled, some because they still have a ton after subtracting $10K.
$10K is probably a small part of a typical private (or even public) university student loan situation.
Unfair!?
See what monkeys do in this situation:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KSryJXDpZo
TL;DV: they get upset

Perhaps, DXY would drop and bitcoin would rally, though...at least this is what I would expect, but markets lately do crazy moves.


Seems like a pointless exercise indeed.

I watched this disturbing documentary about homeless people in the USA the other day.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwDAaKJXKPE&ab_channel=JavaDiscover%7CFreeGlobalDocumentaries%26Clips

I'm not saying you can fix these types of issues completely only with money. The whole attitude of low wage pay by massively rich companies seems to be the biggest problem.
If a person working two full time jobs still can't afford to buy a home it just doesn't seem right.

I saw a job advert a few years ago at a Shell garage at £8 per hour. So the people selling the actual commodities to individuals get paid the absolute lowest in the massive chain. Madness.

Furthermore, people forget just how much $300 billion really is. You can in fact buy a $300,000 home for a million people! And better, put all those homeless people to work to build them in the process.

Just using it to pay off some debt by creating new debt seems completely insane to me. These ex students shouldn't be the most needy in a country. And if they are then they shouldn't be wasting their time going to university in the first place.
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And if Bitcoin is legal

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Been dca’ing a good bit from ath all the way down to current low. I adjusted by dca over the last few months where 50% would go to purchase on the day and 50% added to ladders down.

Of course, you seem to be describing a kind of hybrid version of DCA plus buying on the dips, and nothing wrong with that.  Of course, a pure DCA strategy would be more rigid in terms of just buying on a regular basis no matter what the BTC price, and most active folks will like try to perform a bit of buying on dip strategies.. but some folks are so nervous about NOT really being able to predict, that they just set their DCAs more rigidly.. to buy no matter what whether weekly, bi-weekly, monthly or whatever other period might work for their cashflow balancing matters.

Worked out well in these last few months have accumulated a nice amount. I set a target for myself with a duration of 3 yrs and I’m about 35% of that accumulation target,

You kind of come off as some kind of time-warped version of myself... hahahaha.. I recall in late 2013, I had set a somewhat arbitrary target regarding how many BTC that I wanted to accumulate.. and then since the BTC price went down all the way from late 2013 until late 2014 and even stayed way the fuck down into depression landia territories in 2015.. I largely accumulated way beyond my initial target ideas both in terms of timeline to reach and amount to reach.

but I’m unsure as whether to continue splitting or just shift more into 100% buy on the day. What say you savy WO folks?

Those are not easy decisions, and you know why?  views about BTC price is only one of the factors that any of us should be accounting for when we are employing our bitcoin accumulation strategies... here's the whole list of what needs to be accounted: cashflow, other investments, view of bitcoin as compared with other investments, timeline, risk tolerance, time, skills and abilities to strategize, plan, research and learn along the way including tweaking strategies from time to time to consider trading, reallocating, use of leverage and/or financial instruments.

It can take a long time to figure out each of these, but you do not have to figure them all out before getting started investing in bitcoin.. and accordingly any person could start by investing small -  or investing something that they believe is reasonable and prudent - and continue to study their own circumstances, and perhaps tweak their investing strategy from time to time along the way.


So?  How can we answer for you?  split or no split?  How much budget to allocate towards what?  

On a personal level, I tend to attempt to maintain some buy orders that go way below what I expect the BTC price to ever go.. so earlier in the year (maybe as late as late April  - early May), I had my buy orders go down to just above $20k.. which I considered extreme as fuck and not going to happen.. .. but what ended up happening?  All of those bad boys ended up filling.. and before I could run out of money, I had to tweak them. which was not what I wanted to do, but I considered it was for my own good.. so then I spread them below $20k while the BTC price was still in the UPper $20ks... and then I tweaked again and again and again.. and I was getting tired of tweaking.. it felt like twerking... .. and even the days when the BTC price reach $17,593, I had to pull my buy orders for a few hours.. because I was running out of money.. even though some of my earlier tweaks had actually taken money out from areas that were no longer supposed to be part of BTC purchasing.. but the BTC price was dropping so fast that my previous presets did not really seem like they made sense any more.. and I am not even completely comfortable with my having buy orders down to $13k that I believe will never fill .. but that money was not even supposed to be in BTC anymore either.. but it is.. and it might get tweaked if I rethink it.. but for now, it sits there and if I happened to fall asleep and wake up with the BTC price at $12k, I will have used up all of my buy orders. and again have to rethink the seemingly unthinkable.. and so in that regard "let's".. (the royal let's) hope that shit no does not happen!!!

None of these are easy balances.. and they are somewhat personal rather than objectively applicable.. even though it may well be objectively applicable that every damned person would like to be able to buy at the bottom and sell at the top with frequent rinses and repeats, and that shit no does not happen either, except in shitcoinlandia.. and who wants to live in that scammy and scummy world.. . We live in an actual bitcoin market world in which the manipulations of our BTC prices remain more organic.. even though it frequently no does not feel like that (organic, I mean    Cry Cry Cry)

Split or don't split.. ?  You surely gotta consider your budget and for sure anyone who has cashflows that exceed expenses have more liberties.. but it's not just cashflows, its the whole package of balancing those list items that I outlined above... so in that regard. .you gotta figure it out for ur lil selfie...    Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


Every couple of months or so, with a few mouse clicks, I convert all my accumulated rewards points on my daily use PayPal credit card into bitcoin.
I use the card for all my purchases and is paid off automatically every month with no interest.
Free bitcoin.
Pretty much a no brainer really.
It looks amazing and impressive. But I still don't have a PayPal credit card or the like right now so I can only rely on certain exchanges to exchange all kinds of coins to Bitcoin which I then keep in my wallet.

There is another bit of news posted by @BTC_Archive where the US FED says that Cryptocurrencies Present Opportunities to the Whole Financial System.
The Federal Reserve has urged Wall Street to prepare to handle digital assets as the market prepares for the “floodgates” to open for institutional investors, noting there are also associated with the sector.

It's an amorphous blurb that sounds like someone (gov and/or financial peeps?) is expecting an ETF? or some similar kind of bitcoin related financial product to be released into the wild, no?

They cannot be starting to think that bitcoin could be the savior to the economy.. and actually one of the ONLY ways that I would consider bitcoin to be the savior to the whole fucking mess of an economy would be if the US government had been sly-ly accumulating bitcoin (such as accumulating a million or more coins), and they are not likely smart enough (or self-aware enough) to do that, are they?
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JayJuanGee Thank you for that insightful advice! I've been following your posts for several years here in WO. One of the commendable members in WO. I'm happy that you noticed me and share your knowledge even though I cannot all grasp it.  Smiley
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If this happens in my area, it's like a dream come true. It reminds me of the classic story that every teenager who owns gold as an investment asset for the future. This kind of teenager will get praise from people around.
Bitcoin is indeed present in line with the progress of world development considering that the world economy (fiat) which can experience inflation can even be forfeited or wiped out due to war.
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Bitcoin is the first crypto currency that is in high demand by people today, showing how important bitcoin is in both general and specific perspectives.
If today people look at the charts and analysis of Money flows on Binance and invest one bitcoin, then as long as the big pump going on for bitcoin will be something very valuable, it can provide the maximum return on one BTC bought today.

But unfortunately the public does not see this opportunity, as an alternative long-term investment to increase their financial portfolio.

The image above is only a partial illustration, what if someone could afford to invest in bitcoin.
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SEC Chairman Gary Gensler says that there is no need to treat the crypto market differently from other capital markets.
Noting that “the SEC will serve as the cop on the beat,” Gensler encouraged crypto trading and lending platforms “to come in and talk to SEC staff.”

https://news.bitcoin.com/sec-chairman-says-crypto-should-be-treated-same-as-other-capital-markets/



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At-home bitcoin miners are the backbone of a decentralized Bitcoin network.

Bitcoin mining began at home with Satoshi Nakamoto mining the first 50 bitcoin in the genesis block on what would likely be considered an antiquated desktop computer by today’s standards. Mining has since morphed into a multibillion-dollar industry with fiat-style publicly traded mining behemoths with market capitalizations well into the billions. This includes large companies such as Marathon Digital Holdings, Riot Blockchain, Hut 8 Mining, Hive Blockchain and the like.

https://bitcoinmagazine.com/culture/pleb-miner-month-celebrates-home-bitcoin-miners




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I watched this disturbing documentary about homeless people in the USA the other day.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwDAaKJXKPE&ab_channel=JavaDiscover%7CFreeGlobalDocumentaries%26Clips

I'm not saying you can fix these types of issues completely only with money. The whole attitude of low wage pay by massively rich companies seems to be the biggest problem.
If a person working two full time jobs still can't afford to buy a home it just doesn't seem right.

I saw a job advert a few years ago at a Shell garage at £8 per hour. So the people selling the actual commodities to individuals get paid the absolute lowest in the massive chain. Madness.

Furthermore, people forget just how much $300 billion really is. You can in fact buy a $300,000 home for a million people! And better, put all those homeless people to work to build them in the process.

Just using it to pay off some debt by creating new debt seems completely insane to me. These ex students shouldn't be the most needy in a country. And if they are then they shouldn't be wasting their time going to university in the first place.

This can all be traced back to legalized lobbying, only the rich can afford to buy the lawmakers and push their agenda.

Its a death by a thousand cuts situation where every little thing the rich are allowed to get away with gets heaped ontop to become the straw that broke the camels back.

The trap is the rich think they need to compete to stay where they are and the inevitable place they can cut the bottom line is always the people that do the tasks that can't be automated.

The thing is when one of them cut lets say health care and then lowers their price to compete then the next domino company has to do the same, its a race to the bottom.

That is why some regulation is necessary such a s a living minimum wage.

Congress has given themselves 4 raises without passed a minimum wage increase (this is off the top of my head I may not have the number correct but i'm too lazy to care enough to search the current numbers). And this correlates to people being able to afford a home, it has nothing to do with healthcare or forced insurance.

Once Walmart got away with cutting their workforce to part time workers to avoid having to pay benefits all the other industry had to do the same to stay in business. I remember back then boycotting walmart for 20 years and telling people they are only fucking themselfs by shopping there but no-one listens and now we see the inevitable results. And now there is nothing else left and I have no choice but to go there.
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No more fish and chips for us Brits. Just too darn expensive and it's not as if we live near fish waters anyway.  Roll Eyes

Chip shops face 'extinction' amid cost of living crisis
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-somerset-62650572

Oh well, we will eat Ukrainian Russian gruel instead.

Our Prime Minister has been AWOL since his last commons appearance about a month ago and no matter how bleak the economy looks in Britain he is too busy with holidays etc which I understand.
It can't be easy having all these holiday commitments and 7 kids.
Luckily he could still make an appearance in the far more important country Ukraine on their important independence day.
And as Zelensky points out the entire world depends on Ukraine's independence now.

World depends on Ukrainian independence - Zelensky
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-62647630

Funny how Ukraine has been a disputed country for the good part of 300 years going back to the days of Catherine The Great but NOW it is easily the most important country in the world. I agree.
No other country in the world has mattered more and needed more economies to be destroyed to simply ensure its "independence".

Interesting to note that independence doesn't mean financial independence. Weird huh?

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If whole world is under debt then who is the lender Huh


This YouTube explains how it works. Same principle for banking systems in the rest of the world...

https://youtu.be/iFDe5kUUyT0

Key Take Away from this video: "They say money dont grow on trees but the truth is modern banking system creates currency far faster then trees can grow."
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