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[Fakhoury]

Brexit suspended.

What you mean bro by suspended ?

This guy on Zerohedge seems to have captured the picture perfectly.

Markets also seem to have understood the subtext.

A female MP got shot in the face and stabbed by a person shouting "Britain first"

The CAMPAIGNS have been suspended , temporarily

Thanks for your clarification and I'm sorry for your loss.

How this would affect Bitcoin, I just see a possible delay for the referendum ? If not, how this could affect us (Bitcoiners) ?

[adamstgBit]

brexit isn't bullish for bitcoin because they might leave the EUR
brexit is bullish for bitcoin because brexit is being considered, period.
it just goes to show how fucked up things are, if they leave the EUR or stay it makes no difference really, point is there shits all fucked up. it will either continue to be all fucked up, or get fucked up some more. the outcome is irrelevant.

just say'n.

not trying to be a dick, but you do know we use the pound and not the euro in the UK right?

nope i thought you all used EURs over there, i thought that was the whole point of the EUR, everyone uses one currency.

[empowering]

Basically, as has been the case for years- The EU is broke, The ECB is broke,and the European union is broken.

If UK leave, then it will be fractured, Spain, Greece, France, Portugal all in trouble, even Germany is not sitting pretty.

All it would take IF the UK leave is one other core member- Spain for example to decide to leave, and the union will crumble.

Not many states are that happy with the union as it is, the northern states are certainly not happy.. it is, and always was a political mess.

Did I mention they are broke?

Ah well nothing a few trillion in QE and bond purchases will fix.

Shitshow whichever way you look at it.

(Adam- but you surely know the British pound sterling is still in use right?)

[r0ach]

> sovereign and corporate and private debt levels are sane
You don't understand what debt is. It's not a bad thing you imagine it to be.
If you owe me money, for instance, I'd be much less likely to rob or kill you. Because then you'll never pay me back.

>that monetary and fiscal policies are working just fine, the economies are all healthy
Seems to be working great thus far. Also, "Fine" compared to what?

Wow, jew bankers are still spamming their propaganda in this thread.  Everyone understands what debt is.  A debt based currency is neo-feudalism through usury.  Lending "money" (more like thin air) expands the money supply, but since the money supply is debt, you're just increasing the amount of money owed to the central authority who issued it originally (always jew bankers).  The interest requires an infinite growth model to service and can never be paid back or the system would collapse.  If you enjoy being a slave to the jews, go ahead and get you some of that nice debt based fiat, for everyone else, there's Bitcoin and metals.

[toknormal]

Right !! I'm sick of this hanging around in 3-figures. Get this thing moving f.f.s.

Stop being such a shower of pussies dumping every 20 minutes and get it to $6000 already for Christ sakes, bunch of pansies.

There's nearly 3 years of consolidation, investment, promotion and industry growth to be priced in. Apart from the halving, there's 100,000 TPS capacity leap around the corner.

Lets not f*ck about here. Bitcoin's been around for nearly 8 years now. It's clearly here to stay. It's fought off every type of challenge from hundreds of contenders that were technologically more advanced. It is only getting more secure by the day as the network attracts ever more hashpower so get your f*cking fingers out of your ar*ses and start buying.

There's no amount of money all the banks combined and all the governments of the world can put together that can match the bitcoin network's hashpower and security so quit acting like it's some kind of tightrope walk and start putting some pace into it you laggards, this is like watching paint dry.

Hedge funds are going to be doing the sums as to such an asset's real value (as opposed to market value) once reasonably mature and those valuations are going to be coming out in the 6-figure range at least, then there's the background context of the worldwide financial crisis and ballooning debt so what the f*ck are you cissies waiting for ?

Move !!  

[Jord33]

brexit isn't bullish for bitcoin because they might leave the EUR
brexit is bullish for bitcoin because brexit is being considered, period.
it just goes to show how fucked up things are, if they leave the EUR or stay it makes no difference really, point is there shits all fucked up. it will either continue to be all fucked up, or get fucked up some more. the outcome is irrelevant.

just say'n.

not trying to be a dick, but you do know we use the pound and not the euro in the UK right?

nope i thought you all used EURs over there, i thought that was the whole point of the EUR, everyone uses one currency.

Not us, were superior. As if we'd give up our Pound Sterling for the shitty euro, thank fuck.

[Paashaas]

Right !! I'm sick of this hanging around in 3-figures. Get this thing moving f.f.s.

Stop being such a shower of pussies dumping every 20 minutes and get it to $6000 already for Christ sakes, bunch of pansies.

There's nearly 3 years of consolidation, investment, promotion and industry growth to be priced in. Apart from the halving, there's 100,000 TPS capacity leap around the corner.

Lets not f*ck about here. Bitcoin's been around for nearly 8 years now. It's clearly here to stay. It's fought off every type of challenge from hundreds of contenders that were technologically more advanced. It is only getting more secure by the day as the network attracts ever more hashpower so get your f*cking fingers out of your ar*ses and start buying.

There's no amount of money all the banks combined and all the governments of the world can put together that can match the bitcoin network's hashpower and security so quit acting like it's some kind of tightrope walk and start putting some pace into it you laggards, this is like watching paint dry.

Hedge funds are going to be doing the sums as to such an asset's real value (as opposed to market value) once reasonably mature and those valuations are going to be coming out in the 6-figure range at least, then there's the background context of the worldwide financial crisis and ballooning debt so what the f*ck are you cissies waiting for ?

Move !!  

[JayJuanGee]

"Wall Observer" Alert

Sometimes Walls can be reverse indicators, no?   

Aren't we going up?  Seems like it.

If we can break through this $750 to $850 price territory, then it seems that the rest would be history, even if there happens to be quite a few coins on the books in the ask walls. 

>>>>>>waka waka waka>>>>waka waka waka>>>>>>>>> waka waka waka>>>>>

[hodl_2015]

[...]
nope i thought you all used EURs over there, i thought that was the whole point of the EUR, everyone uses one currency.

It's actually very simple, see this info-graph:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2a/Supranational_European_Bodies_with_NATO_members-en.svg/2000px-Supranational_European_Bodies_with_NATO_members-en.svg.png

And no, none of the European politician know that whole graph.

[kurious]

Basically, as has been the case for years- The EU is broke, The ECB is broke,and the European union is broken.

If UK leave, then it will be fractured, Spain, Greece, France, Portugal all in trouble, even Germany is not sitting pretty.

All it would take IF the UK leave is one other core member- Spainfor example to decide to leave, and the union will crumble.

Not many states are that happy with the union as it is, the northern states are certainly not happy.. it is, and always was a political mess.

Did I mention they are broke?

Ah well nothing a few trillion in QE and bond purchases will fix.

Shitshow whichever way you look at it.

(Adam- but you surely know the British pound sterling is still in use right?)

Just the risk the UK 'might' vote to leave is already causing chaos.  UK stock markets down £34 billion in just one day this week, GBP incredibly low against dollar.... Forex markets jittery.

Brexit would be huge - don't doubt it - and it's a big part of what is happening now, worldwide.  Uncertainty around the world over the future of the 500 million consumer trading block that is the EU is not 'minor' news.   The vote is in seven days. It will not be postponed.

Yes, good for BTC - but not so for world stability.... if the UK votes leave.  I will cash in some next Thursday because I don't think it will and I hope it does not.

[spooderman]

brexit isn't bullish for bitcoin because they might leave the EUR
brexit is bullish for bitcoin because brexit is being considered, period.
it just goes to show how fucked up things are, if they leave the EUR or stay it makes no difference really, point is there shits all fucked up. it will either continue to be all fucked up, or get fucked up some more. the outcome is irrelevant.

just say'n.

not trying to be a dick, but you do know we use the pound and not the euro in the UK right?

nope i thought you all used EURs over there, i thought that was the whole point of the EUR, everyone uses one currency.

wow dude.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O37yJBFRrfg

[empowering]

Basically, as has been the case for years- The EU is broke, The ECB is broke,and the European union is broken.

If UK leave, then it will be fractured, Spain, Greece, France, Portugal all in trouble, even Germany is not sitting pretty.

All it would take IF the UK leave is one other core member- Spainfor example to decide to leave, and the union will crumble.

Not many states are that happy with the union as it is, the northern states are certainly not happy.. it is, and always was a political mess.

Did I mention they are broke?

Ah well nothing a few trillion in QE and bond purchases will fix.

Shitshow whichever way you look at it.

(Adam- but you surely know the British pound sterling is still in use right?)

Just the risk the UK 'might' vote to leave is already causing chaos.  UK stock markets down £34 billion in just one day this week, GBP incredibly low against dollar.... Forex markets jittery.

Brexit would be huge - don't doubt it - and it's a big part of what is happening now, worldwide.  Uncertainty around the world over the future of the 500 million consumer trading block that is the EU is not 'minor' news.   The vote is in seven days. It will not be postponed.

Yes, good for BTC - but not so for world stability.... if the UK votes leave.  I will cash in some next Thursday because I don't think it will and I hope it does not.

I agree- and I have been telling people since before the Brexit referendum was confirmed, that a Brexit referendum would cause some wobbles - uncertainty makes markets nervous.

I have also been talking about the EU crumbling for years. (I even had a good indication 20 years ago the experiment would fail, maybe even set up to fail in the first place- sneaky Germans)

Yeah I also doubt there is any way the referendum will be postponed.

[600watt]

brexit isn't bullish for bitcoin because they might leave the EUR
brexit is bullish for bitcoin because brexit is being considered, period.
it just goes to show how fucked up things are, if they leave the EUR or stay it makes no difference really, point is there shits all fucked up. it will either continue to be all fucked up, or get fucked up some more. the outcome is irrelevant.

just say'n.

not trying to be a dick, but you do know we use the pound and not the euro in the UK right?

nope i thought you all used EURs over there, i thought that was the whole point of the EUR, everyone uses one currency.

Not us, were superior. As if we'd give up our Pound Sterling for the shitty euro, thank fuck.

i don´t think the u.s. will let their submarine called UK leave the EU. with this submarine they can sabotage every little step of the EU trying to get unified. without their UK watchdog, the U.S. would have less influence. that´s why it will not happen.  

[meh32123]

Hmm, double top? time for crash

[JayJuanGee]

> sovereign and corporate and private debt levels are sane
You don't understand what debt is. It's not a bad thing you imagine it to be.
If you owe me money, for instance, I'd be much less likely to rob or kill you. Because then you'll never pay me back.

[edited out....]

Firstly, are you an alt of JJG?
 
[remainder edited out]

I will partly bite in response to your random stupid-assness that seems to be an attempt to fill this thread with a bunch of clutter that makes little to no sense.  I guess that's partly what a troll strives to accomplish... even when it appears the price battle is becoming a kind of lost cause for bears and corporate shills   

To the extent that there is any connection or appearance of a relationship between me and tabnloz, I will confirm I know nothing about tabnloz, and a cursory glance at his profile, it appears that he has been a member of this forum for nearly a year longer than me.

[savetherainforest]

Brexit suspended.

What you mean bro by suspended ?

He is a troll .... that guy that was mayor of London ( BorisWhat'sHisName) said he is suspending his campaign advocating for BrExit after an incident where an MP of Labor was gunned down in the streets and died lately in the hospital. The shooter that they caught after a few hours/days seems to be white, so no muslim angle I guess for him to parade on.

[spooderman]

Hmm, double top? time for crash

yeh ok, see u at, like 5 dollars below the double top for like ~5 hours max.

[kurious]

Basically, as has been the case for years- The EU is broke, The ECB is broke,and the European union is broken.

If UK leave, then it will be fractured, Spain, Greece, France, Portugal all in trouble, even Germany is not sitting pretty.

All it would take IF the UK leave is one other core member- Spainfor example to decide to leave, and the union will crumble.

Not many states are that happy with the union as it is, the northern states are certainly not happy.. it is, and always was a political mess.

Did I mention they are broke?

Ah well nothing a few trillion in QE and bond purchases will fix.

Shitshow whichever way you look at it.

(Adam- but you surely know the British pound sterling is still in use right?)

Just the risk the UK 'might' vote to leave is already causing chaos.  UK stock markets down £34 billion in just one day this week, GBP incredibly low against dollar.... Forex markets jittery.

Brexit would be huge - don't doubt it - and it's a big part of what is happening now, worldwide.  Uncertainty around the world over the future of the 500 million consumer trading block that is the EU is not 'minor' news.   The vote is in seven days. It will not be postponed.

Yes, good for BTC - but not so for world stability.... if the UK votes leave.  I will cash in some next Thursday because I don't think it will and I hope it does not.

I agree- and I have been telling people since before the Brexit referendum was confirmed, that a Brexit referendum would cause some wobbles - uncertainty makes markets nervous.

I have also been talking about the EU crumbling for years. (I even had a good indication 20 years ago the experiment would fail, maybe even set up to fail in the first place- sneaky Germans)

Yeah I also doubt there is any way the referendum will be postponed.

The Germans don't want the EU to fail - it's too good a market for all their industry and they are slowly owning large chunks of it without having to actually invade anywhere.  

Conspiracy theories aside - the EU was genuinely (in part) set up to ensure we didn't have yet another catastrophic war.  And right now with Putin's Russia rampaging around the EU's edges, it's probably not a great time to take apart the EU as a united block - able to speak as one voice and use its trading power to curb his excesses.

Yes, it's screwed up and undemocratic, a flawed and rowing bunch of oddball misfits run by seemingly unaccountable bureaucrats.  But Yugoslavia used to be one country in Europe not so long ago and look what happened when it disintegrated. European countries at each other's throats cause a lot of trouble. EU trade does seem to have kept the lid on things for a while, which is why the EU's potential failure is a threat.

Brexit is probably as much at the centre of what is happening as the halving IMHO.  The coincidence of these two events' timing may well have a lot to do with why this rise is rocket-powered.

[JayJuanGee]

As more professional traders enter the market and more robust trading tools including shorting, there is less volatility.

Seems to be working...

Wait on Satoshi s   800k  BTC dump

http://www.bitcoinrichlist.com/top100

Satoshi is dead mate. Sorry to crush your dreams

Craig Wright will dump his 800k BTC

Crypto research.. .in your last couple of posts, quoted above, you've been spewing nonsense.

1) the bitcoin rich addresses list is likely a lot of businesses and exchanges.. sure there could be some individuals in there too.. but it remains fairly unlikely that very many folks participating in these threads hold 10k or more coins, which is the smallest amount of coins in that linked list.

2) craig wright is not relevant to any discussions about satoshi, except that he (wright) made fraudulent efforts in an attempt to attain such identity... so you seem to be baiting and trolling when you make such stupid ass comments regarding whatever Wright might do in his tail between his legs possibly temporary retreat from the public bitcoin space.

[PoolMinor]

Hmm, ...

Might want to show the chart you are referring to. Otherwise sounds like hot air.