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Question: How far will this leg take us?
$110K - 9 (8.3%)
$120K - 19 (17.6%)
$130K - 17 (15.7%)
$140K - 9 (8.3%)
$150K - 19 (17.6%)
$160K - 2 (1.9%)
$170K+ - 33 (30.6%)
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June 17, 2016, 03:12:23 PM

after carefully analyzing the chart for 5mins i conclude that we are STILL going to the moon.

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June 17, 2016, 03:27:40 PM

after carefully analyzing the chart for 5mins i conclude that we are STILL going to the moon.



LOL
Suprised I hadn't seen that one before.
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June 17, 2016, 03:33:17 PM

after carefully analyzing the chart for 5mins i conclude that we are STILL going to the moon.



Yeah... I think it will take a couple of days until we'll know if we're getting one last leg up or just crash.
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June 17, 2016, 03:41:16 PM

my expectations

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June 17, 2016, 03:44:02 PM

Finex is back.
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June 17, 2016, 04:02:22 PM

shit the tables have turned

everyone run for your lives!
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June 17, 2016, 04:19:00 PM

Does anyone know of an app that combines a btcwisdom chart  (or ideally two), with a bitfinex order api on a mobile device? 
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June 17, 2016, 04:40:45 PM

Does anyone know of an app that combines a btcwisdom chart  (or ideally two), with a bitfinex order api on a mobile device? 
Think tab trader is good one..
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June 17, 2016, 05:00:20 PM

Anyone else having issues reaching Poloniex?
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June 17, 2016, 05:02:47 PM

Anyone else having issues reaching Poloniex?

same here.....
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June 17, 2016, 05:02:52 PM

That looks like the best one for now but ideally I'd like something that has the chart and an order entry all in one page so you don't ever have to switch screens.  Even better would be to have an order depth like wisdom and a second chart  (huobi), all one page. Alternatively, it could be compatible with android multi window.
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June 17, 2016, 05:05:39 PM

That looks like the best one for now but ideally I'd like something that has the chart and an order entry all in one page so you don't ever have to switch screens.  Even better would be to have an order depth like wisdom and a second chart  (huobi), all one page. Alternatively, it could be compatible with android multi window.

Everything's compatible with multi window Smiley

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bjbinc.mwmphone&hl=en
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June 17, 2016, 05:11:05 PM

Anyone else having issues reaching Poloniex?

same here.....

People scrambling to dump their shitcoins. Polo is great until, it aint... and when volume is high, it aint.

People still margin trade there though   Roll Eyes    Huh
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June 17, 2016, 05:13:14 PM

$750 popped again and ¥5000 - up we go....
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June 17, 2016, 05:16:27 PM

666! euros ... We meet again!
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June 17, 2016, 06:06:22 PM

let's assume miners have a terrible time adjusting to the reward drop, hash rate drops and bitcoin experiences longer than usual confirmation delays for 2 weeks.
do you as a speculator care about this?
can't we view this as bullish? not only has reward dropped, but for 2 weeks new blocks are coming in slower, less coins coming in slower.

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June 17, 2016, 06:17:45 PM

let's assume miners have a terrible time adjusting to the reward drop, hash rate drops and bitcoin experiences longer than usual confirmation delays for 2 weeks.
do you as a speculator care about this?

We cared when it was 400$ a coin. It's 800'ish now. Meaning miners will be making pretty much the same money.

On the other hand, the inflationary effect of requiring 1.44mn USD per day to absorb inflation, is preserved.

Meaning that if the market needed 400$ x 3600 coins = 1.44mn USD just to maintain daily price, now it's kind of the same with 800$ x 1800 coins (=again 1.44mn USD to absorb daily supply).
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June 17, 2016, 07:00:25 PM

let's assume miners have a terrible time adjusting to the reward drop, hash rate drops and bitcoin experiences longer than usual confirmation delays for 2 weeks.
do you as a speculator care about this?

We cared when it was 400$ a coin. It's 800'ish now. Meaning miners will be making pretty much the same money.

On the other hand, the inflationary effect of requiring 1.44mn USD per day to absorb inflation, is preserved.

Meaning that if the market needed 400$ x 3600 coins = 1.44mn USD just to maintain daily price, now it's kind of the same with 800$ x 1800 coins (=again 1.44mn USD to absorb daily supply).


Many of us recognized that the halvening causing a drop in the hashrate and therefore causing less security and incentive in the mining system and therefore a drop in the price was really bullshit and red herring kind of argument - especially in bitcoin, there has been a continuous speculative component regarding these kinds of price spikes occurring "some day", and even in the $200s miners were continuing to mine, whether profitable or not based on speculation regarding future prices...


Yeah, sure, if there had been a very prolonged period of $200 or even inability in bitcoin for the prices to significantly increase, at some point, little by little (and individually) miners would have begun to pull away and shut down their operations, etc etc.. (which would have caused some incentive for the remaining miners to stay in).  Anyhow, the whole argument regarding hashing dropping with halvening was like a low probability event - probably less than 10%, but more likely even quite lower than that.

But now that we see the price increase scenario playing out, the scenario should be more obvious, as AlexGR describes above... and additionally, they are going to continue to speculate and they are, individually, going to come to differing conclusions within their speculation, and to the extent that their speculation remains positive, the whole BTC infrastructure benefits from increased security and increased investment into bitcoin computing power.
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June 17, 2016, 07:09:54 PM

Can someone explain how a marginally lowering hash rate actually impacts network security?  Is there a malicious entity out there that has been developing Peta hashes of power at the same rate as our miners and he's waiting to take over when a drop occurs?
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June 17, 2016, 07:18:34 PM

Can someone explain how a marginally lowering hash rate actually impacts network security?  Is there a malicious entity out there that has been developing Peta hashes of power at the same rate as our miners and he's waiting to take over when a drop occurs?

The large miners are all well known so it would have to involve one of these 2 possibilities:

1) Chinese government targeting several large miners and forcing them under duress to 51% attack
2) Secret state government slowly hording miners and not turning them on while they accumulate slowly as to not raise suspicions from ASIC manufactures and than wait till a slight drop to 51% attack.

Both are extremely unlikely but 1) is more likely of the 2 possibilities and would force our nodes to have to HF the chain with one of many solutions. 2) extremely unlikely as states cannot keep secrets and a project of this magnitude would be very difficult to hide as it involves an extremely large facility with many employees.

Again , both are very unlikely, but we should def start taking steps to decentralize mining more.
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