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[Dakustaking76]

Lol at kraken btc hit 2082 in 10 seconds?
Whats going on lal

[marcus_of_augustus]

Lol at kraken btc hit 2082 in 10 seconds?
Whats going on lal

Chyna has come back into sync with rest-of-world by rising >100% in 30 days (doubling).

Some serious shorts in chyna have capitulated, expect to see some dead bodies being wheeled out.

[Ted E. Bare]

It is better now with the top exchanges at the same prices. The situation we had before was confusing.

[becoin]

Some serious shorts in chyna have capitulated, expect to see some dead bodies being wheeled out.

PBoC might be among them.

[bitserve]

Lol at kraken btc hit 2082 in 10 seconds?
Whats going on lal

I don't know what's happenning with KRAKEN... It's the third time (that I have NOTICED) that I had limit orders placed from days before that ARE NOT EXECUTED when the price cross and pass my limit price.

In this case, the price reached 2082€, yet I had some sell limit orders in the 19XX€ and 2XXX€ range that were NOT EXECUTED.

I always leave low and high orders to take advantage of this spikes... but it looks like someone else (maybe KRAKEN itself) is taking advantage of it and not me?

WTF is this shit? It is costing me MONEY.

And I am still waiting on the last ticket I opened about this issue past month.

Anyone else on the same boat?

What this leads me to believe that maybe some people are being liquidated, at least at a worst price than would happen if orders on the way were executed.

[savetherainforest]

Welcome back Richy!

Buyable dip yet?

fucking bitstamp is down. ffs!!

Everything under 5k $ is a buyable dip for the next 1-2 years!!!  

With 100  btc this is getting serious, from a pucker factor perspective.

Sell/Fold  or Pucker/Pray

Getting way beyond interesting ......

You should invest 1% when you think you have too much. And I for one do not trust in the future of humanity and fiat (of any country, maybe except Chile (those f*ckers still have their money backed up by gold)).

But with 1% of what you have... you should start a business. But start by investing nothing or a maximum of 10% of that 1%.  ... Try to sell something that you can get for free... out of thin air!


*edit: When the bubble starts and bursts, you can get out at 30-32k $ or you can always check out these forums for unexpected news!

[ErisDiscordia]

Lol at kraken btc hit 2082 in 10 seconds?
Whats going on lal

I don't know what's happenning with KRAKEN... It's the third time (that I have NOTICED) that I had limit orders placed from days before that ARE NOT EXECUTED when the price cross and pass my limit price.

[snip]

Anyone else on the same boat?

Same thing happened to me this last spike. I only noticed because you brought it up. Going to investigate.

[bitserve]

Lol at kraken btc hit 2082 in 10 seconds?
Whats going on lal

I don't know what's happenning with KRAKEN... It's the third time (that I have NOTICED) that I had limit orders placed from days before that ARE NOT EXECUTED when the price cross and pass my limit price.

[snip]

Anyone else on the same boat?

Same thing happened to me this last spike. I only noticed because you brought it up. Going to investigate.

I am still waiting for a reply about a limit buy at $124X that I still have on my order book and should have executed in one dump that hapenned and cross it. I am requesting they honor my order at their cosst (which is increasing every day that the prices raises higher) yet I haven't received ANY reply.

I don't even know how much money I have lost with this behaviour because it could have hapenned more than this THREE times I have noticed.

Yeah, I know, I should not be using Kraken anymore... but there are not so many "reliable" (?) exchanges and I prefer to have my trading funds distributed. The ONLY exchange I have never had a single problem is Bitstamp.

I think there is a Kraken thread somewhere in bitcointalk, I am going to search for it.l

[Totscha]

Lol at kraken btc hit 2082 in 10 seconds?
Whats going on lal

I don't know what's happenning with KRAKEN... It's the third time (that I have NOTICED) that I had limit orders placed from days before that ARE NOT EXECUTED when the price cross and pass my limit price.

[snip]

Anyone else on the same boat?

Same thing happened to me this last spike. I only noticed because you brought it up. Going to investigate.

I am still waiting for a reply about a limit buy at $124X that I still have on my order book and should have executed in one dump that hapenned and cross it. I am requesting they honor my order at their cosst (which is increasing every day that the prices raises higher) yet I haven't received ANY reply.

I don't even know how much money I have lost with this behaviour because it could have hapenned more than this THREE times I have noticed.

Yeah, I know, I should not be using Kraken anymore... but there are not so many "reliable" (?) exchanges and I prefer to have my trading funds distributed. The ONLY exchange I have never had a single problem is Bitstamp.

I think there is a Kraken thread somewhere in bitcointalk, I am going to search for it.l

There you go: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=290799.0

[mainpmf]

Lol at kraken btc hit 2082 in 10 seconds?
Whats going on lal

I don't know what's happenning with KRAKEN... It's the third time (that I have NOTICED) that I had limit orders placed from days before that ARE NOT EXECUTED when the price cross and pass my limit price.

In this case, the price reached 2082€, yet I had some sell limit orders in the 19XX€ and 2XXX€ range that were NOT EXECUTED.

I always leave low and high orders to take advantage of this spikes... but it looks like someone else (maybe KRAKEN itself) is taking advantage of it and not me?

WTF is this shit? It is costing me MONEY.

And I am still waiting on the last ticket I opened about this issue past month.

Anyone else on the same boat?

What this leads me to believe that maybe some people are being liquidated, at least at a worst price than would happen if orders on the way were executed.

I could be wrong but... Could it be because there is not enough demand?

I means yeah the price actually crossed the lines but not for long, it might be that there was no one to actually take your position no?
Anyway it's interesting to note, do you have any other platform on which you can trade? I hate btc-e for trading, they're good to buy/sell but not to manage leverage trading positions.

[bitserve]

Lol at kraken btc hit 2082 in 10 seconds?
Whats going on lal

I don't know what's happenning with KRAKEN... It's the third time (that I have NOTICED) that I had limit orders placed from days before that ARE NOT EXECUTED when the price cross and pass my limit price.

[snip]

Anyone else on the same boat?

Same thing happened to me this last spike. I only noticed because you brought it up. Going to investigate.

I am still waiting for a reply about a limit buy at $124X that I still have on my order book and should have executed in one dump that hapenned and cross it. I am requesting they honor my order at their cosst (which is increasing every day that the prices raises higher) yet I haven't received ANY reply.

I don't even know how much money I have lost with this behaviour because it could have hapenned more than this THREE times I have noticed.

Yeah, I know, I should not be using Kraken anymore... but there are not so many "reliable" (?) exchanges and I prefer to have my trading funds distributed. The ONLY exchange I have never had a single problem is Bitstamp.

I think there is a Kraken thread somewhere in bitcointalk, I am going to search for it.l

There you go: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=290799.0

Thanks!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=290799.msg19153025#msg19153025

[stereotype]

Lol at kraken btc hit 2082 in 10 seconds?
Whats going on lal

I don't know what's happenning with KRAKEN... It's the third time (that I have NOTICED) that I had limit orders placed from days before that ARE NOT EXECUTED when the price cross and pass my limit price.

[snip]

Anyone else on the same boat?

Same thing happened to me this last spike. I only noticed because you brought it up. Going to investigate.

I am still waiting for a reply about a limit buy at $124X that I still have on my order book and should have executed in one dump that hapenned and cross it. I am requesting they honor my order at their cosst (which is increasing every day that the prices raises higher) yet I haven't received ANY reply.

I don't even know how much money I have lost with this behaviour because it could have hapenned more than this THREE times I have noticed.

Yeah, I know, I should not be using Kraken anymore... but there are not so many "reliable" (?) exchanges and I prefer to have my trading funds distributed. The ONLY exchange I have never had a single problem is Bitstamp.

I think there is a Kraken thread somewhere in bitcointalk, I am going to search for it.l

Been happening for a long time, and is admitted by Kraken/Dargo.
I waited 36 hours to see what happened to my order. It executed $86 to my disadvantage. Took multiple support requests to ask to be made good. I wait many days for reply. Then, Kraken gave me $100 worth of Kraken tokens to use against future trades only, without any supporting email. I ask Kraken suppot "WTF?" Totally ignored.
I ask Dargo for an explanation on the Kraken thread, he refuses to answer to the very question about why i should accept tokens instead of my money back.
 
People really need to stay away from Kraken, unless playing with play money. Their problems are broad based, have been happening for nearly a year, and with no sign of them getting better.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=290799.msg19106706#msg19106706

[bitserve]

Lol at kraken btc hit 2082 in 10 seconds?
Whats going on lal

I don't know what's happenning with KRAKEN... It's the third time (that I have NOTICED) that I had limit orders placed from days before that ARE NOT EXECUTED when the price cross and pass my limit price.

In this case, the price reached 2082€, yet I had some sell limit orders in the 19XX€ and 2XXX€ range that were NOT EXECUTED.

I always leave low and high orders to take advantage of this spikes... but it looks like someone else (maybe KRAKEN itself) is taking advantage of it and not me?

WTF is this shit? It is costing me MONEY.

And I am still waiting on the last ticket I opened about this issue past month.

Anyone else on the same boat?

What this leads me to believe that maybe some people are being liquidated, at least at a worst price than would happen if orders on the way were executed.

I could be wrong but... Could it be because there is not enough demand?

I means yeah the price actually crossed the lines but not for long, it might be that there was no one to actually take your position no?
Anyway it's interesting to note, do you have any other platform on which you can trade? I hate btc-e for trading, they're good to buy/sell but not to manage leverage trading positions.

No, that's not how the order book (should) works. If someone goes to sell (or be liquidated) all the way to 2082€ it means all sell orders before that price have been honored.

The only case that could be a bit confussing is if the rise stops at exactly the price you had your limit orders set. Then, if there are more coins from other traders that were placed before yours AND are enough to cover the demand, no single coin from you will be reached. But the price can't rise any single penny above while there are sell limit orders pending at that price.

I haven't had any single problem with Bitstamp but I have never used leverage there, not sure if they already offer it.

For leveraging your alternatives are not much and not good either.

[stereotype]

Lol at kraken btc hit 2082 in 10 seconds?
Whats going on lal

I don't know what's happenning with KRAKEN... It's the third time (that I have NOTICED) that I had limit orders placed from days before that ARE NOT EXECUTED when the price cross and pass my limit price.

In this case, the price reached 2082€, yet I had some sell limit orders in the 19XX€ and 2XXX€ range that were NOT EXECUTED.

I always leave low and high orders to take advantage of this spikes... but it looks like someone else (maybe KRAKEN itself) is taking advantage of it and not me?

WTF is this shit? It is costing me MONEY.

And I am still waiting on the last ticket I opened about this issue past month.

Anyone else on the same boat?

What this leads me to believe that maybe some people are being liquidated, at least at a worst price than would happen if orders on the way were executed.

I could be wrong but... Could it be because there is not enough demand?

I means yeah the price actually crossed the lines but not for long, it might be that there was no one to actually take your position no?
Anyway it's interesting to note, do you have any other platform on which you can trade? I hate btc-e for trading, they're good to buy/sell but not to manage leverage trading positions.

No, that's not how the order book (should) works. If someone goes to sell (or be liquidated) all the way to 2082€ it means all sell orders before that price have been honored.

The only case that could be a bit confussing is if the rise stops at exactly the price you had your limit orders set. Then, if there are more coins from other traders that were placed before yours AND are enough to cover the demand, no single coin from you will be reached. But the price can't rise any single penny above while there are sell limit orders pending at that price.

I haven't had any single problem with Bitstamp but I have never used leverage there, not sure if they already offer it.

For leveraging your alternatives are not much and not good either.

Bitstamp leverage coming soon, apparently.

[bitserve]

Lol at kraken btc hit 2082 in 10 seconds?
Whats going on lal

I don't know what's happenning with KRAKEN... It's the third time (that I have NOTICED) that I had limit orders placed from days before that ARE NOT EXECUTED when the price cross and pass my limit price.

[snip]

Anyone else on the same boat?

Same thing happened to me this last spike. I only noticed because you brought it up. Going to investigate.

I am still waiting for a reply about a limit buy at $124X that I still have on my order book and should have executed in one dump that hapenned and cross it. I am requesting they honor my order at their cosst (which is increasing every day that the prices raises higher) yet I haven't received ANY reply.

I don't even know how much money I have lost with this behaviour because it could have hapenned more than this THREE times I have noticed.

Yeah, I know, I should not be using Kraken anymore... but there are not so many "reliable" (?) exchanges and I prefer to have my trading funds distributed. The ONLY exchange I have never had a single problem is Bitstamp.

I think there is a Kraken thread somewhere in bitcointalk, I am going to search for it.l

Been happening for a long time, and is admitted by Kraken/Dargo.
I waited 36 hours to see what happened to my order. It executed $86 to my disadvantage. Took multiple support requests to ask to be made good. I wait many days for reply. Then, Kraken gave me $100 worth of Kraken tokens to use against future trades only, without any supporting email. I ask Kraken suppot "WTF?" Totally ignored.
I ask Dargo for an explanation on the Kraken thread, he refuses to answer to the very question about why i should accept tokens instead of my money back.
 
People really need to stay away from Kraken, unless playing with play money. Their problems are broad based, have been happening for nearly a year, and with no sign of them getting better.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=290799.msg19106706#msg19106706

Please correct me if I am wrong, but I think you are talking about stop limits/take profit orders here. I already learned to NEVER, EVER use them anymore as, IF it executed, they will do at the very worst possible price. Also, trading engine lag in periords of heavy usage are a known issue.

But... a standing LIMIT order already in the order book since days ago that doesn't get honored? That's pure rabbish and means the order book is simply broken or it can get bypassed in unexplained ways.

[mainpmf]

Lol at kraken btc hit 2082 in 10 seconds?
Whats going on lal

I don't know what's happenning with KRAKEN... It's the third time (that I have NOTICED) that I had limit orders placed from days before that ARE NOT EXECUTED when the price cross and pass my limit price.

In this case, the price reached 2082€, yet I had some sell limit orders in the 19XX€ and 2XXX€ range that were NOT EXECUTED.

I always leave low and high orders to take advantage of this spikes... but it looks like someone else (maybe KRAKEN itself) is taking advantage of it and not me?

WTF is this shit? It is costing me MONEY.

And I am still waiting on the last ticket I opened about this issue past month.

Anyone else on the same boat?

What this leads me to believe that maybe some people are being liquidated, at least at a worst price than would happen if orders on the way were executed.

I could be wrong but... Could it be because there is not enough demand?

I means yeah the price actually crossed the lines but not for long, it might be that there was no one to actually take your position no?
Anyway it's interesting to note, do you have any other platform on which you can trade? I hate btc-e for trading, they're good to buy/sell but not to manage leverage trading positions.

No, that's not how the order book (should) works. If someone goes to sell (or be liquidated) all the way to 2082€ it means all sell orders before that price have been honored.

The only case that could be a bit confussing is if the rise stops at exactly the price you had your limit orders set. Then, if there are more coins from other traders that were placed before yours AND are enough to cover the demand, no single coin from you will be reached. But the price can't rise any single penny above while there are sell limit orders pending at that price.

I haven't had any single problem with Bitstamp but I have never used leverage there, not sure if they already offer it.

For leveraging your alternatives are not much and not good either.

Ok yeah I see what you mean.

I'll try Bitstamp then, it's not really for the best to stay on a trading platform with such problems xD

[bitserve]

Ok yeah I see what you mean.

I'll try Bitstamp then, it's not really for the best to stay on a trading platform with such problems xD

It's not that I am vouching for Bitstamp either, considering the risks any and all trading platforms present. I am just talking about my personal experience/incidents or lack thereof.

[ShroomsKit_Disgrace]

Ok yeah I see what you mean.

I'll try Bitstamp then, it's not really for the best to stay on a trading platform with such problems xD

It's not that I am vouching for Bitstamp either, considering the risks any and all trading platforms present. I am just talking about my personal experience/incidents or lack thereof.

Can you tell how many BTC were bought/sold in that huge spike to 2082€? According to the order books, it should take a massive order of almost 2000BTC to reach this price now. According to the charts, that did not happen (the volume in those spikes was about 100BTC). Therefore it was not a massive bought order but some kind of bug/error in their API. Dont you think so?

[bitserve]

Ok yeah I see what you mean.

I'll try Bitstamp then, it's not really for the best to stay on a trading platform with such problems xD

It's not that I am vouching for Bitstamp either, considering the risks any and all trading platforms present. I am just talking about my personal experience/incidents or lack thereof.

Can you tell how many BTC were bought/sold in that huge spike to 2082€? According to the order books, it should take a massive order of almost 2000BTC to reach this price now. According to the charts, that did not happen (the volume in those spikes was about 100BTC). Therefore it was not a massive bought order but some kind of bug/error in their API. Dont you think so?

I am absolutely sure that this time, AGAIN, something happenned that bypassed all or part of the order book. I would like to know WHO was the fortunate guy (or entity) that took the big profit of selling those coins at that high price. And I feel sorry for whomever was liquidated and forced to sell at that artificial high price. It would have been much lower (or maybe he wouldn't even be liquidated in first instance) if our intermediate sell orders had been honored.

I would like to think this is a (recurring) bug, but I am not sure anymore.

I have also seen some complains about this same issue in twitter today:

https://twitter.com/bmx830/status/866916576985047041

And no, it's not the API: THis is from kraken site irself:


    Last
    €1,899.920
    High
    €2,082.958
    Low
    €1,757.400
    24 Hour Volume
    26,023.66
    Weighted Avg
    €1,879.180

[ErisDiscordia]

Ok yeah I see what you mean.

I'll try Bitstamp then, it's not really for the best to stay on a trading platform with such problems xD

It's not that I am vouching for Bitstamp either, considering the risks any and all trading platforms present. I am just talking about my personal experience/incidents or lack thereof.

Can you tell how many BTC were bought/sold in that huge spike to 2082€? According to the order books, it should take a massive order of almost 2000BTC to reach this price now. According to the charts, that did not happen (the volume in those spikes was about 100BTC). Therefore it was not a massive bought order but some kind of bug/error in their API. Dont you think so?

That does seem to be a likely explanation. Looking at the 5m chart, there seem to be two separate spikes above 2000Eur but both with rather low volume (100BTC)