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[bitserve]

I don't keep my coins on exchanges but does anyone need to remove the coins? I mean isn't BIP148 now not going to happen since segwit will be in place before that date or have I got this all wrong?
(Still a little confused about the whole thing).

It's the only way you will secure getting your new Bitcoin ABC coins.

Yes, whatever that fucking is.... Free money is free money though. No problem with that.

Also, theres a neat Byteball airdrop on August 7. <- Just a reminder, more free money.

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[machasm]

I don't keep my coins on exchanges but does anyone need to remove the coins? I mean isn't BIP148 now not going to happen since segwit will be in place before that date or have I got this all wrong?
(Still a little confused about the whole thing).

It's the only way you will secure getting your new Bitcoin ABC coins.

So there is going to be a HF for sure on that date? Is that the Jihan fork?
I have my priv keys on a ledger nano S so presume I am ok?
(Sorry if I missed some vital info and your having to repeat).

[FractalUniverse]

bitserve: actually you scared me into thinking about temporarily withdrawing at least half of the funds from exchange - that would mean buying some coin at current price though, as im in fiat after missing bitcoin rally train.
to withdraw or not to withdraw. that is the question
ugh 

If you only have a minimum amount of BTC on exchanges IN RELATION to you total holdings, then it is somewhat ok, especially if you plan to trade the volatility.

FIAT is somewhat safe.... unless mtgoxed/bitfinexed....

Anyway, I don't know... I am just on the verge of settling the remaining of my margin long position at kraken thanks to the profits from the past two weeks. This same night if everything goes as expected. From that point on I will be playing safe, but not sure if I will withdraw the remaining BTC or keep trading.

Ok, Ill think it over, but probably will take a risk. In case of increased volatility, there will be an opportunity to make some profits and/or buy some bitcoins cheaper.
..and I'll have to hope, that finex is not the one short of bitcoins

[bitserve]

I don't keep my coins on exchanges but does anyone need to remove the coins? I mean isn't BIP148 now not going to happen since segwit will be in place before that date or have I got this all wrong?
(Still a little confused about the whole thing).

It's the only way you will secure getting your new Bitcoin ABC coins.

So there is going to be a HF for sure on that date? Is that the Jihan fork?
I have my priv keys on a ledger nano S so presume I am ok?
(Sorry if I missed some vital info and your having to repeat).

Yeah, if someone really KNOWS about that Bitcoin Cash thinggy it would be great if he could illustrate all us. I have read a little about it but haven't even realised if it is a sure thing or a bluff, or wtf.

Anyone?

[Last of the V8s]

I don't keep my coins on exchanges but does anyone need to remove the coins? I mean isn't BIP148 now not going to happen since segwit will be in place before that date or have I got this all wrong?
(Still a little confused about the whole thing).

It's the only way you will secure getting your new Bitcoin ABC coins.

So there is going to be a HF for sure on that date? Is that the Jihan fork?
I have my priv keys on a ledger nano S so presume I am ok?
(Sorry if I missed some vital info and your having to repeat).

Yeah, if someone really KNOWS about that Bitcoin Cash thinggy it would be great if he could illustrate all us. I have read a little about it but haven't even realised if it is a sure thing or a bluff, or wtf.

Anyone?

yeah it's happening lots of info/links from here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2040221.0

[bones261]

I don't keep my coins on exchanges but does anyone need to remove the coins? I mean isn't BIP148 now not going to happen since segwit will be in place before that date or have I got this all wrong?
(Still a little confused about the whole thing).

It's the only way you will secure getting your new Bitcoin ABC coins.

So there is going to be a HF for sure on that date? Is that the Jihan fork?
I have my priv keys on a ledger nano S so presume I am ok?
(Sorry if I missed some vital info and your having to repeat).

I haven't read up much on Bitcoin ABC. Not sure if any orphaned blocks from Bip91 will show up as valid on that chain, too. Or if it has a flag day of the 1st. If your private keys are in your nano, you'll get everything that is due, eventually. Edit: Just read OP of above link. The flag day is the 1st.

[Last of the V8s]

https://twitter.com/RichardHeartWin/status/888881057793282048
 Richard Heart‏ @RichardHeartWin 7m7 minutes ago

Richard Heart Retweeted Brian Cohen

Near Billion dollar Institutional fund puts $210,000 into Bitcoin Investment Trust.

Richard Heart added,
Brian Cohen @inthepixels
BREAKING: Rothschild Buy $BTC Bitcoin via $GBTC Bitcoin Investment Trust 539 SH https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1020918/000102091817000006/xslForm13F_X01/primary_doc.xml … /// https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1020918/000102091817000006/xslForm13F_X01/inftable.xml …
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[machasm]

I don't keep my coins on exchanges but does anyone need to remove the coins? I mean isn't BIP148 now not going to happen since segwit will be in place before that date or have I got this all wrong?
(Still a little confused about the whole thing).

It's the only way you will secure getting your new Bitcoin ABC coins.

So there is going to be a HF for sure on that date? Is that the Jihan fork?
I have my priv keys on a ledger nano S so presume I am ok?
(Sorry if I missed some vital info and your having to repeat).

Yeah, if someone really KNOWS about that Bitcoin Cash thinggy it would be great if he could illustrate all us. I have read a little about it but haven't even realised if it is a sure thing or a bluff, or wtf.

Anyone?

yeah it's happening lots of info/links from here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2040221.0

Thanks. With so much to read in this one thread alone I hardly have had time to read any others (slow reader lol)

[Torque]

https://twitter.com/RichardHeartWin/status/888881057793282048
 Richard Heart‏ @RichardHeartWin 7m7 minutes ago

Richard Heart Retweeted Brian Cohen

Near Billion dollar Institutional fund puts $210,000 into Bitcoin Investment Trust.

Richard Heart added,
Brian Cohen @inthepixels
BREAKING: Rothschild Buy $BTC Bitcoin via $GBTC Bitcoin Investment Trust 539 SH https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1020918/000102091817000006/xslForm13F_X01/primary_doc.xml … /// https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1020918/000102091817000006/xslForm13F_X01/inftable.xml …
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Ummm... unless they missed a few zeros on that number, yeah zzzzzzzzzz 

[bitserve]

I don't keep my coins on exchanges but does anyone need to remove the coins? I mean isn't BIP148 now not going to happen since segwit will be in place before that date or have I got this all wrong?
(Still a little confused about the whole thing).

It's the only way you will secure getting your new Bitcoin ABC coins.

So there is going to be a HF for sure on that date? Is that the Jihan fork?
I have my priv keys on a ledger nano S so presume I am ok?
(Sorry if I missed some vital info and your having to repeat).

Yeah, if someone really KNOWS about that Bitcoin Cash thinggy it would be great if he could illustrate all us. I have read a little about it but haven't even realised if it is a sure thing or a bluff, or wtf.

Anyone?

yeah it's happening lots of info/links from here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2040221.0

Thanks!

Bleh, that thread is full of shills! Not sure it is a good source of neutral info about it.

Anyways, this is the answer for @bones261 question: https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/6ouzh7/bcc_on_a_ledger_nano/dkkdygj/

I think we will have to wait and see. Not going to lose one more minute on that until I can SEE the money

[Last of the V8s]

https://twitter.com/RichardHeartWin/status/888881057793282048
Ummm... unless they missed a few zeros on that number, yeah zzzzzzzzzz

quite. it seems tiny. still they're now richer than me which fucking burns. hope the BITrust scams them.

[El duderino_]

Bet CLOSED! Let the game begins...
Thank you all for supporting this game and I wish you all good luck. Let's make contact when ATH touched.
Final list:
20/07 Siggy  
21/07 Mr Frog
22/07 Protokol
23/07 Bitcoinaire
24/07 Lost_in_base
25/07 rjclarke2000
26/07 Globbo
27/07 Poolminor
28/07 TeeBone
29/07 Ted E. Bear
30/07 bathy
31/07 Infofront
01/08 Vin
02/08 Steelboy
03/08 D_eddie
04/08 Bitserve
05/08 Bikerleszno
06/08 Last of the v8s
07/08 Pajulapoiss
08/08 Imbatman
09/08 Mikenz
10/08 Machasm
11/08 Aesma
12/08 doc12
13/08 Fluidjax
14/08 ShroomsKit_Disgrace
15/08 Fragout
16/08 Orpington
17/08 sirazimuth
18/08 Ivomm
19/08 Elwar
20/08 Oblox
21/08 Haciendo
22/08 Boba
23/08 ErisDiscordia
24/08 Ludwig Von
25/08 Hazukison
26/08 SportbetMaster
27/08 Nanobtc
28/08 Vamos1
29/08 Paashaas
30/08 RayX12
31/08 BinaryReign
02/09 Patrisorvieto
05/09 Entons
06/09 Oinas
09/09 Edgar
11/09 Buwaytress
15/09 MinermanNC
17/09 Spaceman_spiff
21/09 undeadbitcoiner
01/10 K.Ehleyr
02/10 Petemoss2
04/10 Herman Hesse
13/10 Cryptoqueen
05/11 Chainsaw
21/11 Icygreen
12/12 Kurious
23/12 Fractaluniverse
14/01/2018 In the silence
05/02/2018 savetherainforest

What time zone will be used?
I assume it is CET?
As i write, it is:

CET: 22:27
Bitcointalk clock:  08:27 PM

YES   CET   .....

[Dafar]

So does all of Jihan's/Antpool's hash power go BitcoinCash after Aug 1st?  

If the parasites (Jihan, Ver, ViaBTC) all move their hash away from bitcoin... I hate to admit it but that makes BTC less secure overall but it's also nice to get rid of these clowns.

What's stopping Jihan, ViaBTC, and Ver to market dump their thousands of BTC after Aug 1 to plummet the price and freeze sales of BCC to artificially pump the price... making it appear as if BCC is the winning chain.

[savetherainforest]

I'd like to predict ATH by 07/23 if it's still possible

Reason why is because we've had such a strong run from 1800 right up under the ATH without any retraces at all, a small retrace just below it is reasonable(which I also posted when we were at 2925) when we've had such a crazy run. And I expect the strength to continue pretty soon.

23/07 already taken by: Bitcoinaire

If we break ATH on 23rd of july, somebody gonna have to pay me

Hmmm... I thought it was about predicting when the next ATH and if it will be and stay in place as the "ATH" for at least 2-3 months after it is being broken. Meh... anyway, I still keep my prediction, around that time it will be over 10k and it will stay in place as the "new ATH" for a few months after!

[bones261]

So does all of Jihan's/Antpool's hash power go BitcoinCash after Aug 1st?  

If the parasites (Jihan, Ver, ViaBTC) all move their hash away from bitcoin... I hate to admit it but that makes BTC less secure overall but it's also nice to get rid of these clowns.

What's stopping Jihan, ViaBTC, and Ver to market dump their thousands of BTC after Aug 1 to plummet the price and freeze sales of BCC to artificially pump the price... making it appear as if BCC is the winning chain.

They will offer an option, most probably. I'm sure Antpool will give generous giveaway offers to anyone who opts to point their hash at Bitcoincash. Hashnest still owes me .39 BTC on my Pacmic contract. They better not try to pay me back in this bologna.

Edit: I just asked on their thread if Bitcoincash will be merge minable. If so, these pools can mine both at the same time... If it is merge minable, it would be quite the scandal if these pools didn't divulge that to their miners and keep the coins on the chain the miner opts out of...

[bitserve]

So does all of Jihan's/Antpool's hash power go BitcoinCash after Aug 1st?  

If the parasites (Jihan, Ver, ViaBTC) all move their hash away from bitcoin... I hate to admit it but that makes BTC less secure overall but it's also nice to get rid of these clowns.

What's stopping Jihan, ViaBTC, and Ver to market dump their thousands of BTC after Aug 1 to plummet the price and freeze sales of BCC to artificially pump the price... making it appear as if BCC is the winning chain.

As a bluff it may be ok... really doing it would be completely stupid and would trash all confidence in cryptocurrencies in general.

[BlindMayorBitcorn]

Been busy. Who won the auction for the girl?

You won! Enjoy a lifetime of nagging.

Ah, marriage, a great institution...

...if you want to live in an institution.

 

I spent two days in the clink once. The place really could have used a woman's touch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOuQywiRUJo

[d_eddie]

So does all of Jihan's/Antpool's hash power go BitcoinCash after Aug 1st?  

Jihan's words about this were noncommittal, along the lines of "we will use some of our hash power on our new coin..."

If the parasites (Jihan, Ver, ViaBTC) all move their hash away from bitcoin... I hate to admit it but that makes BTC less secure overall but it's also nice to get rid of these clowns.

I don't think we'll get rid of them anytime soon.

What's stopping Jihan, ViaBTC, and Ver to market dump their thousands of BTC after Aug 1 to plummet the price and freeze sales of BCC to artificially pump the price... making it appear as if BCC is the winning chain.

Greed. It would cost them an arm and a leg.

[JayJuanGee]

In my case it was the following:

I talked about bitcoin and nobody believed and I started using my bitcoins in real life, I bought a lot of things thanks to the investments I made with bitcoin, it did not take long for people to start asking me, i told them again about bitcoin And they started to know and use bitcoin

People are only interested in something that benefits them

Actually they now believe because of the rapid rising of bitcoins value. But when its about $300 they never believe us that it can potentially go up 10 times.

Well for about 8 or 9 months in 2015 it was mostly below $280 and frequently below $250.  

I recall that there was not too much posting about bitcoin in these forums - and even some of the most staunch of bitcoin bulls were questioning their BTC investment and getting out and questioning whether they should buy moar or wait in case there were a further drop.  I recall a lot of people suggesting that I cut my losses.

Almost all of us were in that questioning boat and lacking some confidence, especially when the bear market drags out for so long and there were few optimistic posters in those days... so pleasant surprises came from movements to $300 and elation when we went we had the brief spike to $500 in early November 2015 - even though seemingly short-lived and questioning whether prices would go up to $500 again or just return back down.. very uncertain times, and probably we could not feel too confident about being out of the BTC bear market until about May 2016 when we broke above $500 in spite of the ongoing and persistent bear attempts to keep BTC down..

At that point in about mid-2016, the bearwhales, bankshills and anti-bitcoin folks lost control of their bear market... and the rest is history, so to speak.  

[JayJuanGee]

My friends and family just roll their eyes and just figure it's an extension of my gambling problem. They are probably right. However, since I made my entry in late 2014/early 2015, this has been more fruitful than my attempts at card counting. (Didn't help that I tried to mask my card counting by accepting all of the free drinks.) They may be coming around though. My partner scolded me for using my btc to purchase a small gold bar the other day.

Hehe, it often happens that new adepts are more zealous than seasoned ones...

I only wish that I had been more zealous when I started dabbling in cryptocurrencies. If I had invested only a fraction of what I was willing to risk at blackjack over the years instead of chump change, I'd be looking at 6 or 7 figures of value rather than a paltry 4 figures. The saying, "rather be safe than sorry" just does not ring true right now for me. I've been safe and now I'm sorry.  

You are a skeptic and you are a bit of a bitcoin bear..

What can you do about it?  Maybe go to bitcoin bull training and get rehabilitated from your bear inclinations?  Is it possible?