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[Ibian]

Yeah, religion is super important. Nietzsche predicted that replacing religion with secularism would lead to pretty much what happened a century later. But religion requires ignorance, and we simply know too much now. Not gonna come back in our time.

And this probably also has to do with the cultural cycle. A rising culture is a united one, and nothing unites people like religion. r's, on the other hand, are individualistic and so have less need for religion.

And yes, it is true that jews helped invent some stuff. But the advanced technology we have today is also one of the factors in our decline. It makes life easy, and it is an easy and safe life that turns people into r's. And I question the overall benefit of the nuclear bomb.

Where we appear to differ is in the assumption that knowledge is somehow at odds with faith.

Here are some arguments that may change you mind.
The More Rational Model

It is. Knowledge defies faith, which is why god went poof in a cloud of logic.

Just skimmed that link and not gonna bother with it, except for this little tidbit: "Our model explains things such as why stars look fair and beautiful to our eyes when it serves no credible Darwinian purpose to do so."

Yes it does. Stars are not dangerous to us so there was never a reason to develop a negative reaction to them, and we like sparkly things. Probably because water is easier to find when it reflects light, water being required to survive. And of course we use them to navigate, probably since millions of years ago. Stars benefit our survival.

That seems trivial to me, which is why I will assume the rest is as well.

[chesthing]

Guys, I converted to Judaism today. After the ceremony, I was handed a kilo of gold, paid for by the blood and sweat of the goyim. Immediately after, I received my job offer from Goldman Sachs, and I was handed an invitation to the Bilderbergs.

But none of this has anything to do with the reason I converted. I did it for the jokes!

Awesome post! 
This is the sort of shit I expect from those who never have to worry about money again - keep em' coming btc whales! (bathrobe heros)

[CoinCube]

It is. Knowledge defies faith, which is why god went poof in a cloud of logic.

Just skimmed that link and not gonna bother with it, except for this little tidbit: "Our model explains things such as why stars look fair and beautiful to our eyes when it serves no credible Darwinian purpose to do so."

Yes it does. Stars are not dangerous to us so there was never a reason to develop a negative reaction to them, and we like sparkly things. Probably because water is easier to find when it reflects light, water being required to survive. And of course we use them to navigate, probably since millions of years ago. Stars benefit our survival.

That seems trivial to me, which is why I will assume the rest is as well.

I am actually sympathetic to your position as I was a strong agnostic/atheist for most of my adult life. I ended up that way by reading the Old Testament and being turned off by the barbarism of those times. That combined with a very skeptical personality and exposure in my youth to a disproportionate number of inarticulate religious folks set me on a 20 year path of firm agnosticism. I viewed the religious as foolish holding quaint but outdated and untrue views.

It took me the better part of a quarter century before I gradually realized that the inarticulate bumpkins of my youth despite their lack of sophistication were more or less correct and it was I with my smug intellectual superiority that had adopted the untenable position.

I reached the conclusion not due to any great spiritual event or conversation but the application of logic and consequence. Below is the logic that pulled me away from agnosticism. It is essentially an essay divided into 6 parts.

Since you have adopted the position you have I recommend reading it if for no other reason then to understand the logical basis of an opposing view.  

Health and Religion
Religion and Progress
The Nature of Freedom
The Beginning of Wisdom
Faith and Future
The More Rational Model

[Ibian]

Heard all the arguments. And I didn't adopt anything, I simply don't believe in fairy tales. Show me your god and we'll talk.

Of course, the endless army of invisible pink unicorns do exist. You can tell because they are pink unicorns, just look at them.

[White sugar]

Don't worry, this is the general purpose thread where anything happens. But if you manage to become a jew please let us know how.
KThx

I can't quite tell if you are serious or not.

Its not some sort of secret society it's a religion. I am not trying to convert but the steps are well known for those with genuine interest.

http://www.wikihow.com/Convert-to-Judaism

Jews(at least some) dislike people that are not from a "pure" jewish lineage, if your father or or grandpa was not Jew, then you'll suffer prejudice. Must be worse with converted people.

So want to join the Jews without a pure jewish lineage wouldn't be too diferent than want to join the nazi party without pure arian lineage.

[Torque]

At least r0ach was somewhat funny mixing his hate speeches with defending PM's against Bitcoin while we were hugely profiting from it.

Wrt PM's, there is only one thing you need to keep an eye on. 

http://didthesystemcollapse.com/

[sirazimuth]

It is. Knowledge defies faith, which is why god went poof in a cloud of logic.

Just skimmed that link and not gonna bother with it, except for this little tidbit: "Our model explains things such as why stars look fair and beautiful to our eyes when it serves no credible Darwinian purpose to do so."

Yes it does. Stars are not dangerous to us so there was never a reason to develop a negative reaction to them, and we like sparkly things. Probably because water is easier to find when it reflects light, water being required to survive. And of course we use them to navigate, probably since millions of years ago. Stars benefit our survival.

That seems trivial to me, which is why I will assume the rest is as well.

I am actually sympathetic to your position as I was a strong agnostic/atheist for most of my adult life. I ended up that way by reading the Old Testament and being turned off by the barbarism of those times. That combined with a very skeptical personality and exposure in my youth to a disproportionate number of inarticulate religious folks set me on a 20 year path of firm agnosticism. I viewed the religious as foolish holding quaint but outdated and untrue views.

It took me the better part of a quarter century before I gradually realized that the inarticulate bumpkins of my youth despite their lack of sophistication were more or less correct and it was I with my smug intellectual superiority that had adopted the untenable position.

I reached the conclusion not due to any great spiritual event or conversation but the application of logic and consequence. Below is the logic that pulled me away from agnosticism. It is essentially an essay divided into 6 parts.

Since you have adopted the position you have I recommend reading it if for no other reason then to understand the logical basis of an opposing view.  

Health and Religion
Religion and Progress
The Nature of Freedom
The Beginning of Wisdom
Faith and Future
The More Rational Model

The More Rational Model....

our model explains...
bla bla bla....

 what a load of utter bollocks

[xhomerx10]

[CoinCube]

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Haha ok I will take that as I sign that patience with my off topic conversation is running low.

No more off topic posts from me.

[Considered]

So, charts and that ... Anyone worried about this low volume?

Are you worried with the HODL Kult?

30% haircut. Wait for it.

Nice. I'm going to buy more. This week?

I like to see that drop to accumulate more.

[CoinCube]

According to Google Trends google the search frequency for the term Bitcoin is highest right now in Bolovia and Nigeria and there has been a slight drop in the total number of searches for the term Bitcoin.

https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?q=bitcoin

 

[Bitcoinaire]

Dropping a bit here, looks like breaking through $4400 is causing some difficulty.

[jbreher]

Lombrozo should follow through and ignore Wu's lies, I have no idea how he could accomplish it though.
Lomborzo could even 'kickstart/donate' to get funding and have enough within the hour.
Everyone is tired of Bitmain.

Jeebus, that's infantile.

Actually it is not at all and it shows how much you and the other centralisers misunderstand Bitcoin.

Bitmain has become a big fat, plump, centralised target. It is logical, and cheaper, to attack them than out-compete them.

So you believe Jihan is smarter, nimbler, and just plain better than any collection of your whining cohorts. Got it.

[Elwar]

I'm expecting a drop in the next 24 hours to about $4100, retest support there before we hopefully move on up 

Looks like this is what is playing out.

On a good note, this was good timing for when I sold some of my B*CH that took almost 24 hours to get to the exchange.

[Karartma1]

@Meuh6879

Excellent! I did notice something like that but now I have a second confirmation which makes me more comfortable.
And, by the way, I love the GIFs you are always able to find. Or maybe you create them, especially those of Selma's

 Her name is SaLMA.  I'm going to burn the correct spelling into your minds.

Stare into the image and repeat after me:  B-O-O-B-I-E-S

 
wonderful! I know her name's Salma but don't know why I wrote Selma. Trust me I will study your way and I will never make a mistake again.
Before looking at the price I'll do that in the morning.
At least I will get a sweet good morning 

[600watt]

this is a NAZI.

a racist. a white supremacist. keep this in mind when reading their bullshit posts here. try to imagine what poor suckers they are behind the keyboards. if they were sane and happy they would not fall for such idiotic hate. those guys are fucked and I would almost feel sorry for them if they wouldn't be so full of shit/hate/ignorance.


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[Ibian]

this is a NAZI.

a racist. a white supremacist. keep this in mind when reading their bullshit posts here. try to imagine what poor suckers they are behind the keyboard. if they were sane and happy they would not fall for such idiotic hate. those guys are fucked and I would almost feel sorry for them if they wouldn't be so full of shit/hate/ignorance.

It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a sick society.

[600watt]

this is a NAZI.

a racist. a white supremacist. keep this in mind when reading their bullshit posts here. try to imagine what poor suckers they are behind the keyboard. if they were sane and happy they would not fall for such idiotic hate. those guys are fucked and I would almost feel sorry for them if they wouldn't be so full of shit/hate/ignorance.

It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a sick society.

that smell you are perceiving is not "the others". it is you.

[x2666]

Don't give the media any ideas, next thing we know CNN will be running stories on the white nationalist currency known as Bitcoin.

[aesma]

I used to be a secular atheist before I realized that position was logically untenable.

Funny. I was a practicing Catholic who didn't believe in god until I realized that position was logically untenable. I ditched the religion though, I didn't start believing in fairy tales !

Visiting North America helped a lot in that process, when I got in contact with religious nut-jobs obsessed with chastity, abortion etc., I couldn't continue with that nonsense anymore.