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November 23, 2017, 07:37:47 PM

yep... thanks for calling out the game that fast.

It's the historical chart since the inception.

send me your btc addy privately and I'll tip
Well done!

https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/BRK-A/

Go BTC go

Haha sorry had to do it. Thanks!

Edit: and I agree thats where we're headed.... only in a fraction of the timeframe  Wink
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November 23, 2017, 07:43:49 PM



This is going to be the Bitcoin chart. You heard it from me first.
Your game to find out what that is.
I might give a small tip

Berkshire hathaway?

Absolutely Yes Smiley
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November 23, 2017, 07:45:46 PM

Personally I don't understand why many of these altcoins are valued way more than Litecoin.

Some alts offer unique attributes that may prove to be of some value. Litecoin -- in my opinion -- is merely a crappy version of Bitcoin. A different algo and a quarter-time do not differentiate it enough to be judged as anything but.
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November 23, 2017, 07:47:55 PM

So, Bitcoiners, wait or sell your Gold, and what to buy?

I've sold about half my Bitcoin Gold so far. Traded it into Bitcoin Segwit. About half of the resultant Bitcoin Segwit, I have exchanged for Bitcoin Cash. The remainder is sitting on open Bitcoin Cash buy orders, waiting for the price to be hit. Though it looks like my bids are too low. May have to cancel and reset.

This sentence kind of demonstrates why bitcoin is complete bullshit.  An experienced user that should be difficult to fish/trick, but through economic incentives, was persuaded to adopt the idea that there can be many different bitcoins all at the same time or that it can just randomly change from one thing to another.  Real "money" can't morph or change from one thing to another because then it would not be fungible, hence bitcoin isn't and never was "money" in the first place.  

As I said in the past, due to having limited scalability and thus high fees (aka usury), bitcoin also has a reverse Schelling point where people are incentivized not to use it and create or use a different chain until there's 5 billion of them.  Gold and silver do not have any of these terminal problems and someone like Roger Ver or whoever can't just say "hey guys, gold is no longer gold, I just invented the new periodic element VerGold which has now replaced gold", while some other guy is like "no no, MaxwellGold is the real gold!".  Nobody can tamper with the traits of real money.  Bitcoin is not tamper resistant, there's tampering everywhere.
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November 23, 2017, 07:50:45 PM

Check out the tweets by people now shilling BCash extolling the virtues of Bitcoin Cash, their accounts never mentioned crypto currencies before August. They are fake/paid.
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And the few who are interested are either idealogical big blockers, or just like Alt coins, people who missed out on the early entry to Bitcoin are desperately looking for a big win.

Present company excepted, I suppose?

Oh, well it is true that I almost never tweet.

OTOH, how is it that you view 'idealogical big blockers' as a purjorative? It is a label I wear proudly.
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November 23, 2017, 07:57:01 PM

If Bitcoin Diamond has more proof of work than Bcash, then Bitcoin Diamond will become the real Bcash.



 Cool

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November 23, 2017, 07:58:42 PM

Here comes your unwanted Radix shill again...
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCYs4kPcmZqmgZ9CREb97hvA
Please feel free to hit the ignore button. Else watch and learn.
Just don't quote JJG, please.
I have to throw up every time somebody does, especially when that donkey replies to my posts. And of course else I would not see those replies - as I have identified morons on ignore.
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November 23, 2017, 08:13:22 PM
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If Bitcoin Diamond has more proof of work than Bcash, then Bitcoin Diamond will become the real Bcash.

There's no such thing as "more proof of work" unless you claim there's some intrinsic characteristic that makes SHA256 the only valid hash function that exists, which there is clearly not and it's just a meaningless, arbitrary talking point.  Which is much higher on the list of problems than complaints from other people such as "the only valid proof of work would require 51% of energy in the entire known universe".  Forget about total energy/work usage, there is not even a common consensus point in which to exert that energy on, especially when you consider SHA256 quantum vulnerability to things like Shors/Grovers.  Just another reason to flop onto the stack as to why bitcoin and all other cryptocurrency are just Rube Goldberg machines that don't actually do what they claim.
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November 23, 2017, 08:24:50 PM

154Mill Tether (margin market) on Bitfinex...prepare  Grin
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November 23, 2017, 08:31:02 PM
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154Mill Tether (margin market) on Bitfinex...prepare  Grin

Although I have not lost a cent due to the Bitfinex staff manipulating the price of bitcoin up or down (such as during the halving when they tried to naked short their own exchange and it blew up in their face so they stole everyone's money and claimed they were hacked),  I really want to see those guys go to jail for creating a 1:1 replica of MtGox right after MtGox itself.  And yes, when Finex inevitably blows up, it will probably blow up the rest of the bitcoin market once everything comes to light with them being the main controller of price all the way from $200 to $8000 MtGox-style.

Do people really believe marginal buyers exist for bitcoin at $8000 in a pure vertical, hyperbolic move? Hell no.  Well, maybe like 2 guys on the entire planet or a few small fish lunatics, but those guys aren't the ones putting up walls that control the price. Moves like this are only done in two ways, either entirely financial fraud, or one guy who owns like 90% of the market and hence has an illiquid asset, puts his illiquid asset on margin to leverage....a higher priced illiquid asset (which is how they raised the value of Ethereum).
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November 23, 2017, 08:48:07 PM

If Bitcoin Diamond has more proof of work than Bcash, then Bitcoin Diamond will become the real Bcash.

There's no such thing as "more proof of work" unless you claim there's some intrinsic characteristic that makes SHA256 the only valid hash function that exists, which there is clearly not and it's just a meaningless, arbitrary talking point.  Which is much higher on the list of problems than complaints from other people such as "the only valid proof of work would require 51% of energy in the entire known universe".  Forget about total energy/work usage, there is not even a common consensus point in which to exert that energy on, especially when you consider SHA256 quantum vulnerability to things like Shors/Grovers.  Just another reason to flop onto the stack as to why bitcoin and all other cryptocurrency are just Rube Goldberg machines that don't actually do what they claim.

Bitcoin Diamond is not an offshoot of Bcash. It represent’s Jihan’s original vision with the original functionality restored. Bitcoin Diamond is an upgrade of Bcash. Bitcoin Diamond has better privacy protection than Bcash, including encryption of the transfer amout and balance which protects user’s privacy.  Bitcoin Diamond also has faster transaction confirmations than Bitcoin Cash.  Who wants to wait 10 minutes (or 3 hours depending on oscillations) when Bitcoin Diamond confirms every 2 minutes.  Bitcoin Diamond is a superior technology that will flippen Bcash.

Bitcoin Diamond is a faster, superior Bcash.  Upgrade today and start spending now.
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November 23, 2017, 08:49:02 PM

I wonder what will happen in the next 24hs Shocked
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November 23, 2017, 08:56:58 PM

I wonder what will happen in the next 24hs Shocked

A pump and dump out of Bithumb.
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I wonder what will happen in the next 24hs Shocked

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November 23, 2017, 09:05:32 PM

I wonder what will happen in the next 24hs Shocked
I'm sure the next 24 hours are critical!
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November 23, 2017, 09:08:54 PM

I wonder what will happen in the next 24hs Shocked

A pump and dump out of Bithumb.

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November 23, 2017, 09:16:12 PM

The average Bitcoin Core or Electrum user can just use Coin Control and do his own mixing (or non-mixing) or just bouncing it off a bunch of addresses, and that's without sending them to exchanges.

While this is true, full blocks make this very time consuming and very expensive. Of course, mixing is a poor substitute for actual anonymity. But perhaps workable in practice for noninteresting transactions.



Also, the development team is a bunch of very well known and reputable folk in the coding community, with ties to the British MI6 mind you! I'm very reassured now...



Isn't it obvious from the silhouette who it is? It's Conan O'Brien!


... ... ...

Well, r0ach, what you don't seem to get is...

oh hell forget it - it's like talking to a wall. It ain't worth the time.


If Bitcoin Diamond has more proof of work than Bcash, then Bitcoin Diamond will become the real Bcash.

I don't see how that position is defensible, what with the mining algo change, the 210 M inflation, the segwit trojan, ...

Of course, their website is a scrape and cut'n'paste of the Bitcoin Cash website - is that what you were trying to convey?

(I think you forgot a /sarc)



An experienced user that should be difficult to fish/trick, but through economic incentives, was persuaded to adopt the idea that there can be many different bitcoins all at the same time or that it can just randomly change from one thing to another.  

Well, no. But thanks for playing.

OTOH, 'experienced financiers' can be tricked into accepting different things as gold, such as paper, IOUs, or ledger entries from their broker.

Real "money" can't morph or change from one thing to another because then it would not be fungible, hence bitcoin gold isn't and never was "money" in the first place.  

Except we know that gold has served as money. So your argument that bitcoin is not falls on its face. Nevermind that your initial postulate fails from a terminal misunderstanding of the nature of Bitcoin.

So how's that wampum doing for ya, r0ach?
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November 23, 2017, 09:24:05 PM

"BitcoinDiamond is a PoS-based cryptocurrency."

still born fork^  Tongue
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November 23, 2017, 09:31:34 PM

I wonder what will happen in the next 24hs Shocked
I'm sure the next 24 hours are critical!


Turkey weekend in the States... . Might take them a bit off guard... .  Wink
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November 23, 2017, 09:32:53 PM

You know things are getting desperate around here when Torque and Jbreher quote me and remove all content from the quote because they're unable to put forth any argument whatsoever against it.  It will be two paragraphs and the quote will either be replaced with "..." or they will move things around to try and turn it into a pro-pump statement lol.  MatTheCat posts they have no problem quoting because they're easy to ridicule, but those r0ach posts have to be hidden to prevent the goyim from knowing.
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