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December 23, 2017, 11:12:47 PM

I disagree, I like bitcoin for large transactions and the minor transactions to be done on the side

Instead of being like like everyone else, please specifically list all the e-Commerce transactions that you have been doing with bitcoin. As well as the exact ratio of bitcoin transactions vs. fiat transactions you do for legal spending per month.

Otherwise, these blanket statements are just representing complete fallacy.
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December 23, 2017, 11:15:45 PM

R0ach actually favors silver over gold. So the Tungsten argument is only going to be dismissed.

Alright. Let me go off and do some research. I want to keep the irritation up.

Save your time, it's harder to fake both silver and platinum than gold because tungsten is very close to gold in the specific gravity test.  You could create alloys of other metals to try and accomplish the same thing in silver, but silver has unique characteristics that gold doesn't have to give the fakes away.  All of this is completely meaningless though, as people use things like Xray machines to test them nowadays and the fakes aren't going to pass no matter what.

The common man can easily test silver.  There are not that many coin and round makers.  The simple act of pinging one of these coins will give off a unique sound wave you can either tell by ear, or you can hold it up to the microphone of a cellphone and your free cellphone app will tell you if the resonance matches and if it's real or not.  A fake silver alloy will not pass.

Finally something interesting. May I know the name of that free app I can use with my phone? Have you used it and can vouch for its accuracy?
I would be willing to do some tests RIGHT NOW. What is the name of the app again?

Yea, I've used them and there's not just one app, there's lots of them.  Some of them are free, some you have to pay for.  Just use google, they're easy to find.  I don't own a cellphone.  If I want someone to find me, I'll find them.
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December 23, 2017, 11:22:53 PM

R0ach actually favors silver over gold. So the Tungsten argument is only going to be dismissed.

Alright. Let me go off and do some research. I want to keep the irritation up.

Save your time, it's harder to fake both silver and platinum than gold because tungsten is very close to gold in the specific gravity test.  You could create alloys of other metals to try and accomplish the same thing in silver, but silver has unique characteristics that gold doesn't have to give the fakes away.  All of this is completely meaningless though, as people use things like Xray machines to test them nowadays and the fakes aren't going to pass no matter what.

The common man can easily test silver.  There are not that many coin and round makers.  The simple act of pinging one of these coins will give off a unique sound wave you can either tell by ear, or you can hold it up to the microphone of a cellphone and your free cellphone app will tell you if the resonance matches and if it's real or not.  A fake silver alloy will not pass.

Finally something interesting. May I know the name of that free app I can use with my phone? Have you used it and can vouch for its accuracy?
I would be willing to do some tests RIGHT NOW. What is the name of the app again?

Yea, I've used them and there's not just one app, there's lots of them.  Some of them are free, some you have to pay for.  Just use google, they're easy to find.  I don't own a cellphone.  If I want someone to find me, I'll find them.

OMG! Let me some time to recover from that statement and I will get back to you.
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December 23, 2017, 11:24:38 PM

I don't own a cellphone.

As if we needed any more proof that Roach is the man we need for the 20th century.
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December 23, 2017, 11:26:10 PM

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I don't own a cellphone.

Thanks for that information. It is very helpful in putting things in perspective.
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December 23, 2017, 11:28:32 PM

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The World Gold Council estimates that all the gold ever mined totaled 187,200 tonnes in 2017
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Central banks and other official institutions have been a key source of gold demand since 2010.
Between 2010 and 2016, average annual central bank net purchases were 470 tonnes, accounting for 11% of global gold demand. And global official gold holdings have grown to more than 33,000 tonnes,  from just under 31,000 tonnes in 2010.
Given this sector’s significance to the gold market, close attention is paid to movements in global gold reserves.

So. Nearly 1/5 of all [physical] gold ever mined is in the hands of your "evil banksters", so they can easily manipulate its price [stability]. How nice of them!
They must be the good guys, they are [for now] doing what you are preaching here: buying gold Wink
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December 23, 2017, 11:29:34 PM

BCH buy wall on Bitstamp BCH/BTC down to 2k from 3k.  
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December 23, 2017, 11:31:38 PM

I disagree, I like bitcoin for large transactions and the minor transactions to be done on the side

Instead of being like like everyone else, please specifically list all the e-Commerce transactions that you have been doing with bitcoin. As well as the exact ratio of bitcoin transactions vs. fiat transactions you do for legal spending per month.

Otherwise, these blanket statements are just representing complete fallacy.

Thanks for the tip

looks like

https://www.rsk.co/
RSK is the first open-source smart contract platform with a 2-way peg to Bitcoin that also rewards the Bitcoin miners via merge-mining, allowing them to actively participate in the Smart Contract revolution. RSK goal is to add value and functionality to the Bitcoin ecosystem by enabling smart-contracts, near instant payments and higher-scalability.

is the way to go

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December 23, 2017, 11:32:20 PM

I don't own a cellphone.

As if we needed any more proof that Roach is the man we need for the 20th century.

Isn't it clear that R0ach's main goal is to disappear off the grid when all hell breaks loose? That is just not possible with a cell phone. After all, I find it really strange that all I need to do is have a conversation in the same room as my Iphone and all of a sudden, the google adds match what I was discussing. Apple denies this, but it seems to have happened to me way too often to be a coincidence. Plus, it is quite possible to track you, even if you have the location service shut off. All you need to do is make the mistake of actually using the thing, and they can triangulate your position.
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December 23, 2017, 11:40:36 PM

BCH buy wall on Bitstamp BCH/BTC down to 2k from 3k.  

Down to 1600.  Might be pulled soon.  
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December 23, 2017, 11:41:27 PM

After all, I find it really strange that all I need to do is have a conversation in the same room as my Iphone and all of a sudden, the google adds match what I was discussing. Apple denies this, but it seems to have happened to me way too often to be a coincidence.

Are you serious? Holy crap. I know those in-home smart devices like Amazon Echo and Google Home are for sure doing it. Which is why I will never own such a device. Just never heard of an instance where phone is capturing voice like that off-call usage. Wouldn't surprise me though. A scary invasion of privacy and personal security.
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December 23, 2017, 11:44:44 PM

I don't own a cellphone.

As if we needed any more proof that Roach is the man we need for the 20th century.

Isn't it clear that R0ach's main goal is to disappear off the grid when all hell breaks loose?

Posting online non-stop seems to be the wrong way to go about it.
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December 23, 2017, 11:47:04 PM

After all, I find it really strange that all I need to do is have a conversation in the same room as my Iphone and all of a sudden, the google adds match what I was discussing. Apple denies this, but it seems to have happened to me way too often to be a coincidence.

Are you serious? Holy crap. I know those in-home smart devices like Amazon Echo and Google Home are for sure doing it. Which is why I will never own such a device. Just never heard of an instance where phone is capturing voice like that off-calls. Wouldn't surprise me though. A scary invasion of privacy and personal security.

Yes, I have had a conversation with my partner about a local restaurant we enjoy. No google search on any device. No recent posts on social media about the restaurant. Suddenly, up pops the ad on Facebook for this restaurant. (Not a national franchise.) May be a feature of the Facebook app though. But if a Facebook app can do it, not sure what would prevent any other app from doing it as well. Or even the firmware of your Iphone.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-5200661/Is-phone-listening-word-say.html
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December 23, 2017, 11:48:21 PM

BCH buy wall on Bitstamp BCH/BTC down to 2k from 3k.  

Down to 1600.  Might be pulled soon.  

Down to 1100s.  BTC dump on Bitstamp might be an attempt to defend the peg.
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December 23, 2017, 11:51:10 PM

After all, I find it really strange that all I need to do is have a conversation in the same room as my Iphone and all of a sudden, the google adds match what I was discussing. Apple denies this, but it seems to have happened to me way too often to be a coincidence.

Are you serious? Holy crap. I know those in-home smart devices like Amazon Echo and Google Home are for sure doing it. Which is why I will never own such a device. Just never heard of an instance where phone is capturing voice like that off-calls. Wouldn't surprise me though. A scary invasion of privacy and personal security.

Yes, I have had a conversation with my partner about a local restaurant we enjoy. No google search on any device. No recent posts on social media about the restaurant. Suddenly, up pops the ad on Facebook for this restaurant. (Not a national franchise.) May be a feature of the Facebook app though. But if a Facebook app can do it, not sure what would prevent any other app from doing it as well. Or even the firmware of your Iphone.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-5200661/Is-phone-listening-word-say.html

no its real, part of the huge AI marketing programs that can gather data from all manner of third party options

it knows you better than you know yourself

we agree to it every time we accept agreements etc etc etc

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December 23, 2017, 11:51:38 PM

I don't own a cellphone.

As if we needed any more proof that Roach is the man we need for the 20th century.

Isn't it clear that R0ach's main goal is to disappear off the grid when all hell breaks loose? That is just not possible with a cell phone. After all, I find it really strange that all I need to do is have a conversation in the same room as my Iphone and all of a sudden, the google adds match what I was discussing. Apple denies this, but it seems to have happened to me way too often to be a coincidence. Plus, it is quite possible to track you, even if you have the location service shut off. All you need to do is make the mistake of actually using the thing, and they can triangulate your position.

no its real, part of the huge AI marketing programs that can gather data from all manner of third party options

it knows you better than you know yourself

Soon there will be 4k video cams everywhere.
You wont be able to stay anon except you move into the jungle.


Whats up will all the posts here. Huh
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December 23, 2017, 11:55:41 PM

After all, I find it really strange that all I need to do is have a conversation in the same room as my Iphone and all of a sudden, the google adds match what I was discussing. Apple denies this, but it seems to have happened to me way too often to be a coincidence.

Are you serious? Holy crap. I know those in-home smart devices like Amazon Echo and Google Home are for sure doing it. Which is why I will never own such a device. Just never heard of an instance where phone is capturing voice like that off-calls. Wouldn't surprise me though. A scary invasion of privacy and personal security.

Yes, I have had a conversation with my partner about a local restaurant we enjoy. No google search on any device. No recent posts on social media about the restaurant. Suddenly, up pops the ad on Facebook for this restaurant. (Not a national franchise.) May be a feature of the Facebook app though. But if a Facebook app can do it, not sure what would prevent any other app from doing it as well. Or even the firmware of your Iphone.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-5200661/Is-phone-listening-word-say.html

You're Iphone is always listening, that's how Siri hears the keyword. Apps don't need to be running to listen due to background services and its constantly connected to the web.
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Just turn off “Listen for Hey Siri”
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