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Question: Price Target for Nov. 30, 2024:
<$75K - 4 (3.3%)
$75K to $80K - 1 (0.8%)
$80K to $85K - 2 (1.7%)
$85K to $90K - 10 (8.3%)
$90K to $95K - 15 (12.4%)
$95K to $100K - 27 (22.3%)
>$100K - 62 (51.2%)
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December 26, 2017, 10:12:03 PM

along with some of these other shills that are crapping up this thread.
I second that!
for BCH shills to even start making a point they should have a whole new code (like eth) and not fork out the code they hate so much. they changed two lines and sing revolution, its just plain annoying. Plus the horde of fudders that come here during every dip makes reading the WO a double pain instead of a place to strenghten  hodl
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December 26, 2017, 10:14:11 PM


I like jbreher's posts. Without his posts we would have nothing but BTC cheerleaders here.

That’s like saying I love the big fat hairy guy in the corner of the strip club. If it wasn’t for him there would be just amazing tits and ass.



You know nothing about life dude. Life is a matter of contrasts. Beauty doesn't exist without ugly. Smart doesn't exist without stupid. World would be the most boring place if everybody would be or think the same. Be glad for the hairy guy Smiley
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December 26, 2017, 10:17:17 PM


I like jbreher's posts. Without his posts we would have nothing but BTC cheerleaders here.

That’s like saying I love the big fat hairy guy in the corner of the strip club. If it wasn’t for him there would be just amazing tits and ass.



You know nothing about life dude. Life is a matter of contrasts. Beauty doesn't exist without ugly. Smart doesn't exist without stupid. World would be the most boring place if everybody would be or think the same. Be glad for the hairy guy Smiley
OK, you take the hairy guy then. I'll go for dumb, boring prime T&A.
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December 26, 2017, 10:19:23 PM



Permabulls hanging out. It's funny...because bears Smiley
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December 26, 2017, 10:19:57 PM

I'm really trying to stay apolitical, but I'm at a total loss with jbreher. It's like that guy in Florida that insisted on eating his own face. I just can't even.

Some valid points and concerns but boy are they glued to the wrong horse.
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December 26, 2017, 10:21:31 PM

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December 26, 2017, 10:22:26 PM

along with some of these other shills that are crapping up this thread.
I second that!
for BCH shills to even start making a point they should have a whole new code (like eth) and not fork out the code they hate so much. they changed two lines and sing revolution, its just plain annoying. Plus the horde of fudders that come here during every dip makes reading the WO a double pain instead of a place to strenghten  hodl

Catching up on posts in this thread takes much longer with the block size debates on going...  Maybe we should all just communicate in memes? Much easier to skim through to the most recent post that way.  Tongue
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December 26, 2017, 10:24:08 PM


I like jbreher's posts. Without his posts we would have nothing but BTC cheerleaders here.

That’s like saying I love the big fat hairy guy in the corner of the strip club. If it wasn’t for him there would be just amazing tits and ass.



You know nothing about life dude. Life is a matter of contrasts. Beauty doesn't exist without ugly. Smart doesn't exist without stupid. World would be the most boring place if everybody would be or think the same. Be glad for the hairy guy Smiley

That's what the one slightly over weight middle aged stripper with a c section scar is for.  There is always one...
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December 26, 2017, 10:24:27 PM

I'm really trying to stay apolitical, but I'm at a total loss with jbreher. It's like that guy in Florida that insisted on eating his own face. I just can't even.

Some valid points and concerns but boy are they glued to the wrong horse.
That's the way I see it too - and the reason why sometimes I do bother to write a detailed, articulated, civil reply. But still the exact mechanism of picking the wrong horse escapes me. It must be pretty dark in that barn.
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December 26, 2017, 10:26:50 PM

along with some of these other shills that are crapping up this thread.
I second that!
for BCH shills to even start making a point they should have a whole new code (like eth) and not fork out the code they hate so much. they changed two lines and sing revolution, its just plain annoying. Plus the horde of fudders that come here during every dip makes reading the WO a double pain instead of a place to strenghten  hodl

Catching up on posts in this thread takes much longer with the block size debates on going...  Maybe we should all just communicate in memes? Much easier to skim through to the most recent post that way.  Tongue

Agreed. Sooooo bored of block size debates. zzzzzzzzz
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December 26, 2017, 10:31:34 PM


Wow:  https://bitcoinist.com/lightning-network-mainnet-beta-soon/
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December 26, 2017, 10:38:00 PM

Dankjewel voor alle tijd en moeite micgoossens,
Betaal je de prijs uit je eigen zak?
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December 26, 2017, 10:39:20 PM

Further, I believe it likely that massive adoption will lead to huge numbers of nodes - naturally. Every common consumer has little reason to run such a non-mining, fully-validating wallet.

But I want to run a full node, and with huge blocks I don't even have a choice.
(SPV is a middle ground but not sufficient)
You are forcing me to trust someone.
In fact you are forcing me to trust the miners who are driven by incentives that do not align with my own.
In the future they may change the rules and I wouldn't even know, and if I did know, there would be little I could do to about it.

This myth that non-mining nodes don't matter is the most dangerous the big blockers are forced to peddle, simply because  it drops out of the big block argument as a necessity.
The ability to run a full validating node is not optional, it is a requirement, and any fork that prevents this functionality fails the community.

We must not compromise the security of Bitcoin to help it scale.
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December 26, 2017, 10:41:28 PM

During this discussion time... Cheesy Cheesy

https://bitcoinist.com/bitcoin-price-leaves-earth-16k/

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December 26, 2017, 10:46:39 PM

A clickable picture? This changes everything!
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December 26, 2017, 10:50:45 PM

Further, I believe it likely that massive adoption will lead to huge numbers of nodes - naturally. Every common consumer has little reason to run such a non-mining, fully-validating wallet.

But I want to run a full node, and with huge blocks I don't even have a choice.
(SPV is a middle ground but not sufficient)
You are forcing me to trust someone.
In fact you are forcing me to trust the miners who are driven by incentives that do not align with my own.
In the future they may change the rules and I wouldn't even know, and if I did know, there would be little I could do to about it.

This myth that non-mining nodes don't matter is the most dangerous the big blockers are forced to peddle, simply because  it drops out of the big block argument as a necessity.
The ability to run a full validating node is not optional, it is a requirement, and any fork that prevents this functionality fails the community.

We must not compromise the security of Bitcoin to help it scale.



Bitcoin has never been trustless.  If you're using Bitcoin, you already trust that no group of colluding attackers controls more hash power than honest nodes.  If the hash power majority is colluding to defraud users, bitcoin is not secure.  This is simply a fact.  There is nothing an army of raspberry-pi nodes can do to change this fact.  Fortunately, a hash-power-majority attacker "ought to find it more profitable to play by the rules, such rules that favour him with more new coins than everyone else combined, than to undermine the system and the validity of his own wealth."
 
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December 26, 2017, 10:51:08 PM

Right on cue. Roll Eyes
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December 26, 2017, 10:55:07 PM

LN feels like ripple

Does the blockchain still have a purpose with LN on ? Educate me !
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December 26, 2017, 10:58:53 PM

Dankjewel voor alle tijd en moeite micgoossens,
Betaal je de prijs uit je eigen zak?

Ja toch wel en graag gedaan .... beetje spanning soms moet al eens kunnen toch....
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December 26, 2017, 10:59:58 PM

LN feels like ripple

The only way I can see LN working is with a few large hubs that users "open accounts with" and in a way that those users doesn't actually control private keys.  LN = modernized banking.  
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