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November 24, 2013, 07:22:33 PM
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Lol why is there a 100$ gap between btc-e and gox?

Cause people who use BTC-E are bad at life.  "I'm gonna hold me durpocoin! Someday it'll be worth 1000x more than bitcoin!"

I thought it was because there are delays in new fiat to add to the bond fire.
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November 24, 2013, 07:38:25 PM
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An increasingly globalised humanity is faced with climate change,
dwindling resources, overpopulation and technological upheaval.

Not a promising start: climate change BS, "running out of resources" fallacy (economic ignorance), overpopulation OK maybe, technological "upheaval" (is this supposed to be bad!?).

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post-capitalist world begins to emerge.

More climate change BS, "post-capitalist"...stopped reading there.

Maybe I was too judgmental, but I can't imagine that someone so ignorant about the basics of how the world works (I think my high school teachers said the exact same thing as this) would have any reliable insight on the future.

It's hard to believe I have something in common with climate science deniers.
I was converted over to Bitcoin and Austrian economic precisely because of my fundamental understand in environmental sustainability.  

Understanding of Environmental Science is the catalyst that accelerates Bitcoin adoption to the masses.  

Interesting, mind linking some sources, books or otherwise of achieving a higher understanding of relevant environmental sustainability science please.  Thanks.
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November 24, 2013, 07:43:37 PM
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Lol why is there a 100$ gap between btc-e and gox?

I was thinking the same until I tried to deposit some money to try some arbitrage, well I got surprised with the fees and the owners asking me to describe my deposit as for advertisement... so BTC actually cost you more than Bitstamp or gox when you calculate everything.

most people trade BTC there just to buy Litecoins anyways, we really need gox or Bitstamp to add Litecoins so BTC-e can die slowly.

you know when they say that Litecoin silver to Bitcoins Gold and it is Important to its survival, believe it or not, Yes it is true. this image describe it more.  




and this is the trading Volume the last 24 Hours compared to Bitcoin

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November 24, 2013, 08:00:52 PM
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Time for some action... bitcoin is either of these....

Kawasaki ZX-10R motorcycle vs Audi RS6.

So is bitcoin the Kawasaki or the Audi RS6 tonight?
( note the Kawasaki is doing 300 on the autobahn and gets overtaken by the Audi ).




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November 24, 2013, 08:01:10 PM
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Not a promising start: climate change BS, "running out of resources" fallacy (economic ignorance), overpopulation OK maybe, technological "upheaval" (is this supposed to be bad!?).

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More climate change BS, "post-capitalist"...stopped reading there.

Maybe I was too judgmental, but I can't imagine that someone so ignorant about the basics of how the world works (I think my high school teachers said the exact same thing as this) would have any reliable insight on the future.

yeah, the natural world is like a bottomless checkbook

we can just take take take forever and nothing bad happens

That's a strawman, but here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcWkN4ngR2Y
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November 24, 2013, 08:03:02 PM
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some might interpret that you're implying that climate change isn't real btw . . . .

The climate is changing, yes, as it always does. The idea that there is some serious crisis going on with man-made climate change is a total sham, however.
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November 24, 2013, 08:05:47 PM
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that feels like a big wave of sales that it's about to hit us  Shocked
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November 24, 2013, 08:08:41 PM
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It's hard to believe I have something in common with climate science deniers.
I was converted over to Bitcoin and Austrian economic precisely because of my fundamental understand in environmental sustainability.  

Understanding of Environmental Science is the catalyst that accelerates Bitcoin adoption to the masses.  

I love that: "science" "deniers" - that's two appeals to authority in a single term. The climate change crowd is the most environmentally destructive out there. To care about carbon emissions over things that actually matter, like pollution, is anti-environmental alarmism. It's just an excuse for a global tax. I'm glad that whole charade is winding down, after changing its marketing from "global warming" to "climate change" after the earth refused to warm as commanded. It was one of the lamest spectacles I've seen.
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November 24, 2013, 08:09:39 PM
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some might interpret that you're implying that climate change isn't real btw . . . .

The climate is changing, yes, as it always does. The idea that there is some serious crisis going on with man-made climate change is a total sham, however.

Regardless of climate, ocean acidification via CO2 absorption is a serious threat to many marine species... especially tasty ones.
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November 24, 2013, 08:11:00 PM
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It's hard to believe I have something in common with climate science deniers.
I was converted over to Bitcoin and Austrian economic precisely because of my fundamental understand in environmental sustainability.  

Understanding of Environmental Science is the catalyst that accelerates Bitcoin adoption to the masses.  

I love that: "science" "deniers" - that's two appeals to authority in a single term. The climate change crowd is the most environmentally destructive out there. To care about carbon emissions over things that actually matter, like pollution, is anti-environmental alarmism. It's just an excuse for a global tax. I'm glad that whole charade is winding down, after changing its marketing from "global warming" to "climate change" after the earth refused to warm as commanded. It was one of the lamest spectacles I've seen.

and now there is even talk of a possible mini ace-age as well.... 
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November 24, 2013, 08:11:39 PM
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Sold at 820$ on stamp. Had a good feeling about that. Lets see what happens ^^
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November 24, 2013, 08:13:40 PM
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Zang (and others), what links would you suggest:
how to explain Bitcoin to treasurers of a trust which has just received a hefty donation in bitcoins, with a stipulation that they cannot be sold at will, rather according to The Plan  Wink
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November 24, 2013, 08:14:53 PM
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some might interpret that you're implying that climate change isn't real btw . . . .

The climate is changing, yes, as it always does. The idea that there is some serious crisis going on with man-made climate change is a total sham, however.

Regardless of climate, ocean acidification via CO2 absorption is a serious threat to many marine species... especially tasty ones.

Perhaps, and I haven't looked into that specifically but I wouldn't be surprised if that was a made-up thing as well. pH regulation should be among the easiest things for nature to handle. Much more difficult is pollutants and overfishing (that is one resource we can run out of, unlike oil). Leave that to Bitcoin. Property rights defined over oceans would end overfishing immediately.
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November 24, 2013, 08:15:56 PM
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Sold at 820$ on stamp. Had a good feeling about that. Lets see what happens ^^

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November 24, 2013, 08:16:14 PM
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Sold at 820$ on stamp. Had a good feeling about that. Lets see what happens ^^

Well with a half a percent in commission for tradeing, it means if you sold just one bitcoin, you need the price to drop at least $8.2 to be able to buy in and break even. That's 1% of a bitcoin. Is it really worth the risk/effort?
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November 24, 2013, 08:18:03 PM
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Sold at 820$ on stamp. Had a good feeling about that. Lets see what happens ^^

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November 24, 2013, 08:18:31 PM
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Zang (and others), what links would you suggest:
how to explain Bitcoin to treasurers of a trust which has just received a hefty donation in bitcoins, with a stipulation that they cannot be sold at will, rather according to The Plan  Wink

I don't know how trust treasurers think. Probably most important is they don't accidentally lose it. Maybe I'd just say it is a mathematically secure global asset register, and they just got a large share of it. If the world decides to go onto that asset register system, that share will be worth a lot.
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November 24, 2013, 08:18:57 PM
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That's a strawman, but here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcWkN4ngR2Y

So according to the video:  If we're not running out of resources, why do we need to use them more efficiently?   Roll Eyes  

To deny we are running out of resources, is the true "economic ignorance".  We live in a debt based system that requires infinite growth but our planet and it's resources are certainly finite.  If we had infinite resources, our debt based system could go on forever, but it can't because we don't.  People don't look at what it takes to make that car, that some guy took a loan out on and the bank created money from air to pay for.  This is why our system will eventually collapse because eventually you will run out of the resources required to build the items that people go into debt to buy. Without people taking on more debt, banks can't create more money from thin air and it all comes tumbling down.
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November 24, 2013, 08:20:15 PM
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Sold at 820$ on stamp. Had a good feeling about that. Lets see what happens ^^

Well with a half a percent in commission for tradeing, it means if you sold just one bitcoin, you need the price to drop at least $8.2 to be able to buy in and break even. That's 1% of a bitcoin. Is it really worth the risk/effort?

Yeah the fees are ruining it but I still have 50% of the coins.

Sold at 820$ on stamp. Had a good feeling about that. Lets see what happens ^^

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So, what you mean? good or bad what I did?
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