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January 04, 2014, 07:30:01 PM
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99% of the Bitcoins is already owned by banks. With Bitcoin, everyone can be the bank Smiley

And Satoshi is Rothschild.
But Rothschild can't be Satoshi.
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January 04, 2014, 07:32:39 PM
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99% of the Bitcoins is already owned by banks. With Bitcoin, everyone can be the bank Smiley

And Satoshi is Rothschild.
But Rothschild can't be Satoshi.

LOL  Grin
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January 04, 2014, 07:55:32 PM
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January 04, 2014, 07:58:40 PM
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updated 3 month snapshot:

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January 04, 2014, 08:01:47 PM
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Don't be ridiculous. I know who Satoshi is and have a photo of him!

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January 04, 2014, 08:02:53 PM
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January 04, 2014, 08:04:29 PM
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good luck waiting for that 300, I just wish you wont regret it.... "oooh rien de rien Non je ne regrette rien"  Wink
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January 04, 2014, 08:07:12 PM
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99% of the Bitcoins is already owned by banks. With Bitcoin, everyone can be the bank Smiley

And Satoshi is Rothschild.
But Rothschild can't be Satoshi.

Rothschild will have a loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ot
of paper!!!
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January 04, 2014, 08:08:20 PM
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Trace is a great spokesperson for bitcoin. Bull or bear stage in BTC, hearing him talk about bitcoin gives a very comforting feeling and trust about the
future development of BTC.

Always great to hear his interviews.
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January 04, 2014, 08:08:46 PM
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We are moving into the first full week of New Year business. Dare I say it but... choo choo?
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January 04, 2014, 08:10:56 PM
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Is it time to think about going to mBTC again?  Roll Eyes Grin

no mbtc, lets just use btc. even if it has to be decimals, thats fine

No my friend. I crave the time that I will buy a lambo with some mBTC. The m will probably look like millions to them!  Cheesy
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January 04, 2014, 08:22:33 PM
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Tomorrow there will be a weekend low and that will be the best time to buy. Next week will test new levels of resistance.

Brave words...I'll make a note.

Please do. I haven't been wrong about a specific call I've posted on here yet.
Oh, come now. No one takes that condescending bullshit seriously.

I recall one post specifically because it was in response to me, when price was just over $200 in October.

I would bet we don't end the year more than $20 up or down from where we are today.

Then I thought, let's have a look.

I do not see a lot of investment coming in during the holidays. Certainly not to push us up another $55-60 in the next 2 months. Especially since there are still some people who would just be happy to break even from the April crash, even more so during the holidays.

I don't think we will see ATHs until 2014.

It will be institutional investors that eventually get us to $1000+.  Mom and pop can get us to new highs, but the BTC markets need billions of new capital investments into its coffers to get to 4 digits and beyond.

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I still think this is probably at least over a year away.

I would not expect us to break above 266 before mid December or into the new year. If we do, we are probably headed for another sizeable dip.

There really is no resistance for a loooong time after $1000. $1500 maybe, but $2000 really is the next resistance after that. And 10000 cyn which is about $1630. Have some serious resistance there.

So all of you hoping for $400-$500 coins better prey some big hands come in and bust resistance downward. Otherwise, $600 is probably the best you will see in this rally.

3 days before the move to capitulation:
After studying these markets daily, I believe I have a pretty good pulse on where things are going. Here are my 2 cents currently.

There is a groundswell of buying pressure sitting off to the sidelines and its growing. Its growing for 2 reasons. First, most traders are not 100% bitcoin at the moment. Just look on this mostly bullish forum. Most of us are partly fiat right now. We have $$$ sitting on the sidelines. Second,
there is a lot of new money coming into the exchanges that are not buying right away. That is why the bid sum is increasing. People want to invest, but do not necessarily want to invest if the price is going to go lower.

So every possible mid term scenario (minus a catastrophic one, which always exists) has one final result - an strong upswing in which the money is forced to come back into the market. This will eventually cause another large rally. To where, I do not know. But it is coming.

I think there are 3 near/mid term scenarios. I will list them most unlikely to most likely.

A.  Incredibly bullish news spurns the market upward suddenly forcing the money on the sidelines back in causing a new huge rally.  

B. The market consolidates where it is (around $900) for 1-4/5 weeks. This would be the most bullish scenario and would be similar to the consolidation around $120-$130 a few months ago.

C. The market ebbs sideways and downward over the holidays as the holiday season wins the news cycles and people hold off on investing and sending more funds to markets.  In this scenario, we DO NOT reach another low past the $600ish already established. This would be very similar to the April rally where people expected it to test the low of $50s but it only got to $66, because everyone wanted to buy low.

I think C is most likely given the holidays. We will trend sideways to down, we will start a slow upswing sometime before $600. Somewhere from Dec. 30th to Jan. 31st that upswing will gain momentum and by sometime in February we will be in full fledge rally mode again. I also think this scenario could happen before February as well.

The best you can hope for is a sideways to downward movement lasting 2-6 weeks, but never going below $600. Thats best case scenario for you.

Just like I said, we may go lower but we are not going lower than 600 because everyone is watching there.

And the underlining mood of this market is bullish.  Eventually we are going to hit a price where the money on the sideline says this is low enough. Then after the holidays when more institutional money comes in away we will go.

Or alternately we will go up anytime because honey badger don't give a SHIT.

If you see a downtrend that gets heavy resistance before $600 you should buy.

There is way too muchl money sitting on the sidelines for the market to fall far. And when it comes back in he market will have established its floor.

Most people are looking at 600 the same way they did 50. So on a down trend I would expect the buying to start between $620-$700.

We made a higher low on 12-20 and have not revisited it. You said:
Look. I hear you. I actually agree with most of what you said. However, as much as it gets blasted TA is very effective in calling patterns. And technically speaking we have at least 1 more leg down. I might not make new lows, but still, it would be shocking if it did not happen.

What are your thoughts regarding this now:
I think we hang out in a $20-$40 range for a bit before testing the ATHs early next year, but that doesn't mean even 2014 want see some days (or hours) under 150.

It seems your views have changed. Were you right then, or right now?
We are already seeing an issue with people not wanting to invest at $200. I think the psychological challenges of the cost of a single bitcoin for a potential new investor will dampen the market to a degree. Unless we see the exchanges moving to a lower denomination than BTC, I think our growth from here on out will not be exponential. I could see us at $500-$1000 next year best case scenario. However, as the price rises, the growth curve will be dampened, no doubt.

Lol. That's pretty funny.

But this doesn't change the fact that you are still an over-analytical asshole.

You have this tendency to take 1 thing someone will post, find some literal misinterpretation and run with a counter argument, just for the sake of being a pompous prick.  

Now, I misspoke to say I hadn't made any incorrect calls. In fact, you could have quoted various of my previous posts where I have mentioned "not having a clue" or "maybe wrong" or "I missed the fact that..." or some other caveat where I recognize that we all, including myself have limitations.  Of course you left any posts like this out because you wanted to paint a picture of me as a complete imbecile.

The truth is I sometimes cut corners with what I post or don't qualify my statements in "context" simply because I take for granted that people on here won't take things as black or white, but perhaps with some grey or because I am posting from my phone or don't have the time and energy to clarify ever little detail. Although, while you posted several quotes most of them came down to me missing on either the fact that the rally at $250 would go to $1240 or missing the capitulation going below $600 - in essence missing the news from China, although I posted a poll about that very thing 10 days before it happened. There were a few other misses and some you didn't post (would you like me to add them for you?) but most of these quotes are about the same topics.

Now it probably took you a good hour to go back through all my posts. And of course you didn't list any of my correct predictions, because you had a bone to pick. So, should I now go back and do the same to you? Heavens no, what a collossal waste of time and energy.

But hopefully you had a laugh and feel better about yourself now.

I can take it as good as I give it. So again, well done.

All I ask is just try not to be such an analytical prick.
Regarding being an "over-analytical asshole" and "pompous prick", I'd ask that you compare our posts. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEQAie8ABLE  Cheesy

You are obnoxious and condescending, and despite being wrong regularly, you arrogantly shit on people with insults and say shit like "I haven't been wrong about a specific call I've posted." I wasn't trying to make you look like an imbecile -- I was pointing out your arrogance. You exhibit your arrogance all day, every day, and I won't be the only one here to say it. The only person I would insult on this forum is you because you have it coming.

It wouldn't matter if you quoted posts of mine. I don't go around telling people my shit doesn't stink. You do. It boggles my mind how you can call other people pompous.

You ask that I not be an analytical prick? Welcome to the speculation forum. Get the fuck out if it pleases you. And again, regarding your insults, check yourself.

But alas, you are right. I can't take time to keep responding to your bullshit.
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January 04, 2014, 08:27:48 PM
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I'm still saying stamp @ 900 by Wednesday. If true, I will be a prophet (in profit). I also made the mistake of believing the (probably) "one last crash" lie. Painful, but I still have enough to enjoy this rally:)
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January 04, 2014, 08:36:30 PM
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I am bullish, if we break through the 940 level with out much hesitation I think we are well on our way to 1500
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January 04, 2014, 08:39:34 PM
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I am bullish, if we break through the 940 level with out much hesitation I think we are well on our way to 1500
We need a breather. Hodl tomorrow before things go wild.
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January 04, 2014, 08:42:39 PM
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I'm still saying stamp @ 900 by Wednesday. If true, I will be a prophet (in profit). I also made the mistake of believing the (probably) "one last crash" lie. Painful, but I still have enough to enjoy this rally:)

I will agree that the last crash probably will not happen, but be aware that if it happens, now is the time for it. Personally I think the risk of not getting on the train in time is much to high to trade.

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January 04, 2014, 08:57:10 PM
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I will agree that the last crash probably will not happen, but be aware that if it happens, now is the time for it. Personally I think the risk of not getting on the train in time is much to high to trade.


Everyone does have different opinions and mine differs from yours!  Smiley

I think this is quite the opposite of the "time" for the crash.

Come Monday we have the first full week of business after the New Year. Everyone knows that.

Every day there is a new news article pointing to investment and adoption of Bitcoin in 2014 by important players in important markets (Wall Street, E-commerce, Apps, etc. ) Did you read the Zynga news today?

Of course this doesn't mean that you can buy an APP for Bitcoin on Zynga right now today. But what it does mean is that Bitcoiners, especially those thinking of day trading, can at last take room to breathe once in a while. With price rises like this in the past day traders had to stay glued to the charts 24/7 just to survive; now the pressure is just beginning to ease off, and "Hodling" is just starting to look like the soundest strategy even to a day trader.

Maybe others don't agree, but I think the fact that the stress is starting to ease a little for some of those invested in Bitcoin who might have been feeling nervous as hell previously, has an effect on the market.
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January 04, 2014, 08:57:40 PM
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I'm still saying stamp @ 900 by Wednesday. If true, I will be a prophet (in profit). I also made the mistake of believing the (probably) "one last crash" lie. Painful, but I still have enough to enjoy this rally:)

I will agree that the last crash probably will not happen, but be aware that if it happens, now is the time for it. Personally I think the risk of not getting on the train in time is much to high to trade.



Well from our current point to 1240 everyone is going to be looking for a crash.

So if it happens we should all profit. These crashes always give us time to cash out even if we don't catch the top. And a crash will most likely be news related.

If it doesn't crash then we will still have our coins.

The only way to lose at this point is to try to predict the top or predict the crash and sell before.

As traders we have such an advantage. Be measured and you should be ok.
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I will agree that the last crash probably will not happen, but be aware that if it happens, now is the time for it. Personally I think the risk of not getting on the train in time is much to high to trade.


Everyone does have different opinions and mine differs from yours!  Smiley

I think this is quite the opposite of the "time" for the crash.

Come Monday we have the first full week of business after the New Year. Everyone knows that.

Every day there is a new news article pointing to investment and adoption of Bitcoin in 2014 by important players in important markets (Wall Street, E-commerce, Apps, etc. ) Did you read the Zynga news today?

Of course this doesn't mean that you can buy an APP for Bitcoin on Zynga right now today. But what it does mean is that Bitcoiners, especially those thinking of day trading, can at last take room to breathe once in a while. With price rises like this in the past day traders had to stay glued to the charts 24/7 just to survive; now the pressure is just beginning to ease off, and "Hodling" is just starting to look like the soundest strategy even to a day trader.

Maybe others don't agree, but I think the fact that the stress is starting to ease a little for some of those invested in Bitcoin who might have been feeling nervous as hell previously, has an effect on the market.

I totally agree with all that Smiley

But if you go by TA, this is maybe the last point where anyone can believe we are still in "bear market", so if a crash is going to happen, it better happen now.  Wink


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