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[Hueristic]

ed the press conference press and it was very epic, finally McGregor really good rival

So weird everytime I talk to a specific chick the next day I see or hear a referance to something we just talked about.

Case in point we discussed Cauliflower ears yesterday.

God this thread gets weird when the price is flat.  I almost unblocked gembitz for luls...  Not that bad yet.  If its 6XXX in February maybe.

Hah, I just ublocked someone, first time in months. I don't think it will last.

6 years later Gox is still fucking Bitcoin investors.  Will it ever end?

Was it the Gox sale? Any proof?

 https://www.scribd.com/document/389411275/Mt-Gox-Confirms-230-Million-Sale

Fucker needs to be sued by the creditors for using their assets to attack their assets worth when they requested their assets back and not worthless fiat which they never wanted as proof that they used worthless fiat to procure their stolen assets.

Guys, I made the coolest purchase for BTC. I bought a dog.Today I took it from the nursery. This Siberian Husky and her 1.5 months

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Totally worth it!

[El duderino_]

...the next ATH would be between $100,000 and $340,00.
https://twitter.com/Anders_/status/1044306435184582656

sent merit..you made my little hodl heart flutter ....

Given that you're already retired; what would you do differently with that kind of wealth?  Can you teach an old dog new tricks?

 You lack imagination !

 Come ooonnnnn 2021...

 I'm already past my "best before" date... not sure I can do 3 more years of shift work.

Same here. Me & my partner run an online ladies clothing store. I’ve fucking had enough of working 24/7 to be honest. I’ve had enough of dealing with customers & people in general.

Bitcoin had better hurry up and hit anything north of $50,000 per coin & I’m done. Even working for yourself is too much. I’ve always been an entitled bitch & at 30 something I’ve had enough of working

understand you totaly we also have a family business .... like beeing here and work together with my father brother and employees ..... but the peoples that you have to deal with day in and day out pffffff

and for the rest if, i mean when they hit around 50K how are you gonna act , by selling all or 75% or 50%
i think for myself not easily to sell more than 30% of my stack    (when it hits prices where i wanna sell something) , actualy i think i would only sell if really needed , i think i can't bear it of taking coins of my main ledgers  

i think, one of my very few coins i see leaving the stacks are some give aways i maded into some games , but i also bought them especialy during some DIPS so in my head there already GONE

I’ll probably sell about 25-30% of my stash when we hit 50-60k & buy a massive house & put down some deposits for real estate to rent out.

Never sell all of it because after the halvening in 2024 we’ll likely see, well who knows, 500k per coin?

Either way it’s frustrating atm sitting on what most people would call a lot of money but myself, knowing I can’t spend it YET because it’s not enough to live on forever.

yeah, especially when still in early 30's .... i also give it a lot of thoughts   
also when you have more ,you start to look @ more expensive things , dinner gets more expensive, visit more places, more travelling, clothing, newest PC-phones, cars etc..... ( depends on person to person, where you would like money to spent ) 

[jojo69]

Either way it’s frustrating atm sitting on what most people would call a lot of money but myself, knowing I can’t spend it YET because it’s not enough to live on forever.

My nocoiner friends think I am absolutely daft not having sold for whatever, to them quite impressive, fiat sum I might have got near the top.

People lack imagination, generally, and work isn't so bad.  A bit of structure in ones life helps keep the really serious alcoholism in check.

[Anon136]

Hey guys what are the known places to invest your earnings to generate more earnings?

Bombshell: purchase a Dash Masternode?

Honestly I know bitcoin is the main investment coin but I definitely love to play around with Proof of Stake coins and Masternodes. There's something that just seems to have so much potential with them.

Right? Take the united states dollar for example. It's a coin that operates on a master-node type system and it currently facilitates like half the commerce on the planet.

[Kylapoiss]

Guys, I made the coolest purchase for BTC. I bought a dog.Today I took it from the nursery. This Siberian Husky and her 1.5 months

Gongrats on your new best friend! I've been looking to get a dog myself for some months now and Siberian Husky is the number one choice. Well done mate

[El duderino_]

Just saw this one , A real equity curve explained:

via Imgflip Meme Generator

I wouldn’t know ,ain’t NO trader (mostly not) BUT hodling is also no straight line of smileys 
Just need to understand that the only way up Will always be bumpy

[Kylapoiss]

Just saw this one , A real equity curve explained:

via Imgflip Meme Generator

I wouldn’t know ,ain’t NO trader (mostly not) BUT hodling is also no straight line of smileys  
Just need to understand that the only way up Will always be bumpy

I think the trading side should be with way bigger ups and downs, that looks like a fun rollercoaster But yeah, hodling is easier, tried trading myself for some time and gave it up, takes too much time and it's frustrating as well

[xhomerx10]

Either way it’s frustrating atm sitting on what most people would call a lot of money but myself, knowing I can’t spend it YET because it’s not enough to live on forever.

My nocoiner friends think I am absolutely daft not having sold for whatever, to them quite impressive, fiat sum I might have got near the top.

People lack imagination, generally, and work isn't so bad.  A bit of structure in ones life helps keep the really serious alcoholism in check.

 Yeah, nocoiners don't understand hodl in the slightest.  The ones telling me to sell at $1.1k in 2013 were giving me the same advice at $19k in 2018.  Even after I brought to their attention it was the same advice they gave me 1600% ago, they persisted - "just sell half of them!".

  I have to disagree w.r.t. "work isn't so bad" though... they've really cut back on the numbers of people and expect even more work from the remainder of us.  Also, taking time off was never an issue in the past but in the last 3 years it's very difficult.  We have extended blackout periods on vacation that creep into July and the talk is that next year it will be into early August - it's enough to drive one to really serious alcoholism.  I know... waaa!

[jbreher]

Hm?  So this makes the core developers less godly and more human, I suppose?  And, in your view, elevates the prestige of bcash developers?

No and no. The Core devs are just as human as they ever were. But perhaps the hubris of their acolytes may have been knocked down an appropriate peg or two.


(well, a person could hope...)

There is nothing wrong with real life situation causing more humbleness,

A bigger or wiser person would not wait until life kicks them in the teeth to admit that perhaps they don't have all the answers. Especially when such claims of omniscience require the belittling of others, without bothering to understand their concerns.

[Hueristic]

Either way it’s frustrating atm sitting on what most people would call a lot of money but myself, knowing I can’t spend it YET because it’s not enough to live on forever.

My nocoiner friends think I am absolutely daft not having sold for whatever, to them quite impressive, fiat sum I might have got near the top.

People lack imagination, generally, and work isn't so bad.  A bit of structure in ones life helps keep the really serious alcoholism in check.

 Yeah, nocoiners don't understand hodl in the slightest.  The ones telling me to sell at $1.1k in 2013 were giving me the same advice at $19k in 2018.  Even after I brought to their attention it was the same advice they gave me 1600% ago, they persisted - "just sell half of them!".

  I have to disagree w.r.t. "work isn't so bad" though... they've really cut back on the numbers of people and expect even more work from the remainder of us.  Also, taking time off was never an issue in the past but in the last 3 years it's very difficult.  We have extended blackout periods on vacation that creep into July and the talk is that next year it will be into early August - it's enough to drive one to really serious alcoholism.  I know... waaa!

One thing about work is that it is so much less stressful when you know you can say "fuck off and die cocksucker" anytime you want and just walk away with a smile.

[Paashaas]

November the 5th is when they start trading. Get ready for the new bull run.

I think this could be a game changer. But I pray that they don't down the road change the rules and corrupt this.

In theory, by holding clients' bitcoin accounts for them directly, they can fractional reserve the bitcoin they hold, have re-hypothecation, etc. Even phantom shares of bitcoin. So hoping it doesn't go that way.

Bakkt is one of those ''First-Movers'' opportunity. It will be a financial powerhouse, doing business national ore international will save time and money for all party's. If they don't watch out they might be replaced with decentralised platforms later on.

They can build a lot of applications on it and like you said it can be abused.

http://fortune.com/longform/nyse-owner-bitcoin-exchange-startup/

[elrippos friend]

ed the press conference press and it was very epic, finally McGregor really good rival

So weird everytime I talk to a specific chick the next day I see or hear a referance to something we just talked about.

Case in point we discussed Cauliflower ears yesterday.

God this thread gets weird when the price is flat.  I almost unblocked gembitz for luls...  Not that bad yet.  If its 6XXX in February maybe.

Hah, I just ublocked someone, first time in months. I don't think it will last.

6 years later Gox is still fucking Bitcoin investors.  Will it ever end?

Was it the Gox sale? Any proof?

 https://www.scribd.com/document/389411275/Mt-Gox-Confirms-230-Million-Sale

Fucker needs to be sued by the creditors for using their assets to attack their assets worth when they requested their assets back and not worthless fiat which they never wanted as proof that they used worthless fiat to procure their stolen assets.

Guys, I made the coolest purchase for BTC. I bought a dog.Today I took it from the nursery. This Siberian Husky and her 1.5 months

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Totally worth it!

Both very good fighters 

[jbreher]

Hey guys what are the known places to invest your earnings to generate more earnings?

Bookstores, other stores of knowledge, and any technology that lets you accomplish more in less time.

[d_eddie]

November the 5th is when they start trading. Get ready for the new bull run.

I think this could be a game changer. But I pray that they don't down the road change the rules and corrupt this.

In theory, by holding clients' bitcoin accounts for them directly, they can fractional reserve the bitcoin they hold, have re-hypothecation, etc. Even phantom shares of bitcoin. So hoping it doesn't go that way.

One thing that could help would be to make "bank runs" (moving physical bitcoin out of customer accounts) an easy, quick, hassle-free activity by design (in Bakkt internal rules) and by law (file under "investor protection", which apparently the SEC really, really cares for).

Bakkt is one of those ''First-Movers'' opportunity. It will be a financial powerhouse, doing business national ore international will save time and money for all party's. If they don't watch out they might be replaced with decentralised platforms later on.

Indeed. I hope this could make them wise up before attempting swindles or dodgy rules. However, I am quite jaded about this, especially since from what I've understood until now, Bakkt's intended customers are mostly institutional investors and other big money kind of actors. These are unlikely to trust - or likely unable to use - real faceless decentralized platforms.

[jbreher]

After all, one of the narratives is that BCH is not supposed to be used for a store of value;

Whose narrative is that? I don't recall that position ever being advocated by anyone of note.

Ability to be used as a medium of exchange (MoE) certainly does not preclude ability to be used as a store of value (SoV). Indeed, there is significant evidence that MoE is necessary for any commodity to become a SoV. And a reasonable theory that any commodity that loses its MoE will therefore lose its ability to be a SoV. Which bodes poorly for BTC, unless the LN grows quickly by several orders of magnitude.

I don't know shit about BCH but it is a simple inheritance thing isn't it? Bitcoins original vision was not to be a store of value but a currency. BCH shills have been screaming since day one they will stick to that vision. So yeah there is that. don't get yourself caught in any circular logic trap here.

Who has caught themselves in a circular logic trap?

To be a money, a thing needs to be SoV and MoA MoE. BCH aspires to be a money. MoA MoE does not imply NOT SoV.

A does not imply NOT B.

There's your logic.

edit: strikethroughs and underlines - hunting season, what can I say?

[jojo69]

One think about work is that it is so much less stressful when you know you can say "fuck off and die cocksucker" anytime you want and just walk away with a smile.

Word that man.  I am fortunately childless by choice, and once you have housing and kibble figured out "fuck you money" becomes a very manageable figure.

[jbreher]

Either way it’s frustrating atm sitting on what most people would call a lot of money but myself, knowing I can’t spend it YET because it’s not enough to live on forever.

My nocoiner friends think I am absolutely daft not having sold for whatever, to them quite impressive, fiat sum I might have got near the top.

People lack imagination, generally, and work isn't so bad.  A bit of structure in ones life helps keep the really serious alcoholism in check.

 Yeah, nocoiners don't understand hodl in the slightest.  The ones telling me to sell at $1.1k in 2013 were giving me the same advice at $19k in 2018.  Even after I brought to their attention it was the same advice they gave me 1600% ago, they persisted - "just sell half of them!".

  I have to disagree w.r.t. "work isn't so bad" though... they've really cut back on the numbers of people and expect even more work from the remainder of us.  Also, taking time off was never an issue in the past but in the last 3 years it's very difficult.  We have extended blackout periods on vacation that creep into July and the talk is that next year it will be into early August - it's enough to drive one to really serious alcoholism.  I know... waaa!

One think about work is that it is so much less stressful when you know you can say "fuck off and die cocksucker" anytime you want and just walk away with a smile.

Life is funny. I genuinely _liked_ my job. Can't say I miss it, though.

[El duderino_]

Either way it’s frustrating atm sitting on what most people would call a lot of money but myself, knowing I can’t spend it YET because it’s not enough to live on forever.

My nocoiner friends think I am absolutely daft not having sold for whatever, to them quite impressive, fiat sum I might have got near the top.

People lack imagination, generally, and work isn't so bad.  A bit of structure in ones life helps keep the really serious alcoholism in check.

depends on the JOB i did see WORK leading into serious alcoholism .... but its probably more a problem of the weaker human that can't handle shit , and absolutly shouldn't be involved in crypto and hodling......      the real wageslaves ain't in order to be stronghand hodlers

[Schmullius]

Nice reading — An Overview of Privacy in Cryptocurrencies

https://thecontrol.co/an-overview-of-privacy-in-cryptocurrencies-893dc078d0d7

https://cdn-images-1.medium.com/max/1600/0*xlIW0lPlISMpuL9f

Where is bitcoin in your post?  Are you saying that bitcoin does not have privacy or plans for privacy?  Are we referring to a work in progress or a spectrum rather than all or nothing?  What is the point of your post, in this bitcoin thread?  Discuss.   

Correct. There is no privacy in your little play-money (or these other 'coins'). Yes, Samourai and Wasabi wallets are messing around with Coinjoin. Yes, those devs think that will make it all fungible. No, it doesn't work, but it's nice to pretend, huh?

[lightfoot]

 I have to disagree w.r.t. "work isn't so bad" though... they've really cut back on the numbers of people and expect even more work from the remainder of us.  Also, taking time off was never an issue in the past but in the last 3 years it's very difficult.  We have extended blackout periods on vacation that creep into July and the talk is that next year it will be into early August - it's enough to drive one to really serious alcoholism.  I know... waaa!

Jesus, are you an employee or a slave?