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October 02, 2018, 06:01:38 AM
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Not until Q1 2021

Would be much better - long term - than an immediate resumption of the bull from here. Bitcoin would really let me down if it would not punish the rampant optimism all around. As if Bitcoin suddenly lets its course be plotted by cheerio guys. Want to have nothing of that.

I miss those brutal but purging bear market times.

All the clever people took their profits off the table long ago assuming the next few years are going to be a down-sloping shit-show. The kids don't even know what Bitcoin is anymore. If you enjoy brutal purge festivals, I say buckle up and enjoy.

My sage advice is to ignore Jay before it's too late. He's trying to make you stupider.
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October 02, 2018, 06:02:43 AM
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I love how you all still have hope. It's refreshing. Undecided
I'd hope it all works out for you, but, well...

I don't believe you a bit  Tongue


Gotta take his bullshit seemingly inopportune timed whining with a considerable grain of salt, and even consider the reverse psychology (or the fictitious) angle.

Fuck you, Jay. Not everybody is in a position to park his money sideways for the next three years.

P.S. Fuck you sideways.

it is quite likely that he is going to be back, buying back in, somewhere between the upper $20ks to the pre-$50k price range.  

Sad, but true, that there are real-world folks out there like that.

Moron.

You are the one who seems to be the moron.  You have been participating in this thread for several years, supposedly under various user names, and you seem to be unable to figure out how to hedge your money in such a way in order to profit from a 78x price increase that happens to correct back down around 30x?  that is going from $250 to $19k to $6,500.

I am not proclaiming to be an expert or that there is only one way to accomplish profits  or that everyone can make a killing, but there should be ways to cause this kind of largely profitalbe situation to become somewhat manageable an reasonable for you, as long as you are not gambling and as long as you attempt to accumulate and HODL BTC rather than getting distracted by ongoing outbursts and emotions.

If you think that the odds are great for downwards BTC price movement(s) from here (after an already more than 70% price correction and still floating in around 67% correction territory), then you seem to be lame and lacking in creativity in terms of attempting to establish a modest way of long term investing rather than hoping to get rich within weeks or even months of making BIG gambling plays.

In other words, long term investing takes a lot of patience, tweaking and incrementalism and accumulation of BTC, and in the long term such a strategy that involves attempting to accumulate BTC, HODLing BTC and not investing more than you can afford to lose (including dollar cost averaging methods that tend to be solid for any investment in which you have long term bullish sentiment about the fundamentals) has very decent chances to pay off way better than any traditional investment(s), especially when investing in BTC.  

BTC's history has already shown that and considerable upside potential still exists, in spite your whining that you seem to be inclined to attempt to do the opposite of what you should be doing by buying on the way up, likely investing more than you can afford to lose and selling on the way down, which seems to have decent chances of losing and causing resentment and emotional outbursts, such as the one you just made.

Sure, you could get lucky by selling now and buy back lower... but it is still a bad strategy, and it is necessary to tell you such when you are making such emotional outbursts on a public thread and especially for someone, like you, who seems to have been around this thread for a significant while through various user accounts.

Anyhow, you do whatever the fuck you want, because ultimately I try to help people to help themselves, including you and including some of the seeming joke emotional material you have historically provided, and attempt to provide information for the application of good principles and practices, yet each person has to be responsible for themselves and their own situation - and in the end, apply whatever s/he learns from quasi-anonymous threads with grains of salt, including taking responsibility for your own choices and whether you believe that your choices are helping you to accomplish what you need - which should be some portion of bitcoin in your investment portfolio, anywhere between 1% to 10% of your quasi-liquid investment or some other reasonable amount that is within your discretion and consideration  of your financial situation, including cashflow and other investments, views on bitcoin, risk tolerance and timeline.    

By the way, many of us are not sideways if we have already been in bitcoin for 3 years and might be planning another 3 years of sideways that may well still be UP from where we started.  Even if you have been in only for a bit over a year, there are decent chances that sideways is still profitable, even if prices happen to remain flat for another 3 years, which may or may not happen.
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October 02, 2018, 06:05:57 AM

I love how you all still have hope. It's refreshing. Undecided
I'd hope it all works out for you, but, well...

I don't believe you a bit  Tongue


Gotta take his bullshit seemingly inopportune timed whining with a considerable grain of salt, and even consider the reverse psychology (or the fictitious) angle.

Fuck you, Jay. Not everybody is in a position to park his money sideways for the next three years.

P.S. Fuck you sideways.

it is quite likely that he is going to be back, buying back in, somewhere between the upper $20ks to the pre-$50k price range. 

Sad, but true, that there are real-world folks out there like that.

Moron.

Bitcoin hasn't been in the bear mode for 4 years straight and will never be. Very strange decision to capitulate now I should say... but what are the better investment options you mentioned? Shitcoins? Real estate?  Grin
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October 02, 2018, 06:08:55 AM

Not until Q1 2021

Would be much better - long term - than an immediate resumption of the bull from here. Bitcoin would really let me down if it would not punish the rampant optimism all around. As if Bitcoin suddenly lets its course be plotted by cheerio guys. Want to have nothing of that.

I miss those brutal but purging bear market times.

All the clever people took their profits off the table long ago assuming the next few years are going to be a down-sloping shit-show. The kids don't even know what Bitcoin is anymore. If you enjoy brutal purge festivals, I say buckle up and enjoy.

My sage advice is to ignore Jay before it's too late. He's trying to make you stupider.

Sage advice coming from an emotional wreck who says that he is leaving on an ongoing basis and seems to be unable to figure out a profitable BTC strategy in an asset that is 20x up from where it was 3 years ago? ... How sage could that be?
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October 02, 2018, 06:10:45 AM

I love how you all still have hope. It's refreshing. Undecided
I'd hope it all works out for you, but, well...

I don't believe you a bit  Tongue


Gotta take his bullshit seemingly inopportune timed whining with a considerable grain of salt, and even consider the reverse psychology (or the fictitious) angle.

Fuck you, Jay. Not everybody is in a position to park his money sideways for the next three years.

P.S. Fuck you sideways.

it is quite likely that he is going to be back, buying back in, somewhere between the upper $20ks to the pre-$50k price range. 

Sad, but true, that there are real-world folks out there like that.

Moron.

Bitcoin hasn't been in the bear mode for 4 years straight and will never be. Very strange decision to capitulate now I should say... but what are the better investment options you mentioned? Shitcoins? Real estate?  Grin

He's probably a fucking troll, just coming in to bash and to whine when things are not going well.  You can see similar patterns with his other account, too... at least the BlindMayor account, and I am not sure about what other accounts would be his.
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October 02, 2018, 06:41:18 AM

Meanwhile, I give up. The show's over for me. This money can be put to better use somewhere. I'm sure of it. Thus and so I'm cashing the fuck out before I do anymore damage to myself. God speed, you lot of sophisticates. Give my regards to mister Toronto.

Cheers and bon voyage or whatever.

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October 02, 2018, 06:42:44 AM

Meanwhile, I give up. The show's over for me. This money can be put to better use somewhere. I'm sure of it. Thus and so I'm cashing the fuck out before I do anymore damage to myself. God speed, you lot of sophisticates. Give my regards to mister Toronto.

Cheers and bon voyage or whatever.
No need to give up. Don't get eaten up by the beast. I had to do a BTC detox recently, it was becoming too much for me.
Remember that sometimes not getting what you want is a wonderful stroke of luck.

I said it elsewhere probably and I'll state it again. We are at war, we are fighting for our freedom. Nobody said it was easy since free people (with lots of money) are the most dangerous lot.

Be well and take care Mayor
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October 02, 2018, 06:47:45 AM

This money can be put to better use somewhere. I'm sure of it.

No doubt.  Grin

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Meanwhile, I give up. The show's over for me. This money can be put to better use somewhere. I'm sure of it. Thus and so I'm cashing the fuck out before I do anymore damage to myself. God speed, you lot of sophisticates. Give my regards to mister Toronto.

Cheers and bon voyage or whatever.
No need to give up. Don't get eaten up by the beast. I had to do a BTC detox recently, it was becoming too much for me.
Remember that sometimes not getting what you want is a wonderful stroke of luck.

I said it elsewhere probably and I'll state it again. We are at war, we are fighting for our freedom. Nobody said it was easy since free people (with lots of money) are the most dangerous lot.

Be well and take care Mayor


I'm just coming off what I thought was a months long BTC detox. It didn't seem to work. I sincerely do wish you the best for you.
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Meanwhile, I give up. The show's over for me. This money can be put to better use somewhere. I'm sure of it. Thus and so I'm cashing the fuck out before I do anymore damage to myself. God speed, you lot of sophisticates. Give my regards to mister Toronto.

Cheers and bon voyage or whatever.



Haha this is hilarious!  Grin Grin Grin
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No doubt.  Grin



I guess taking into account his latest decision he could order a "FCK BTC" numberplate  Grin
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Bollinger bands haven't been this tight all year.



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October 02, 2018, 09:10:05 AM

I love how you all still have hope. It's refreshing. Undecided
I'd hope it all works out for you, but, well...


The next peak is $180,000 in December 2021.   But the next 12 months are going to be boring and depressing as batshit, with occasional moments of sheer terror.  

Make your plans accordingly.  I suggest deep cold storage. Put it under a concrete slab if necessary.

So you and wekkel are not voting option 4 in here  Roll Eyes

https://twitter.com/fundstrat/status/1046457776753573890?s=21
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I love how you all still have hope. It's refreshing. Undecided
I'd hope it all works out for you, but, well...


The next peak is $180,000 in December 2021.   But the next 12 months are going to be boring and depressing as batshit, with occasional moments of sheer terror.  

Make your plans accordingly.  I suggest deep cold storage. Put it under a concrete slab if necessary.

So you and wekkel are not voting option 4 in here  Roll Eyes

https://twitter.com/fundstrat/status/1046457776753573890?s=21

If we follow the pattern of 2014 / 5, it will bottom between January and September of next year. Except probably a bit sooner because all the traders will be trying to front run the pattern.  You just don’t want to make your run too early so they will want some confirmation before entering.
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October 02, 2018, 09:36:22 AM

Meanwhile, I give up. The show's over for me. This money can be put to better use somewhere. I'm sure of it. Thus and so I'm cashing the fuck out before I do anymore damage to myself. God speed, you lot of sophisticates. Give my regards to mister Toronto.

Cheers and bon voyage or whatever.
No need to give up. Don't get eaten up by the beast. I had to do a BTC detox recently, it was becoming too much for me.
Remember that sometimes not getting what you want is a wonderful stroke of luck.

I said it elsewhere probably and I'll state it again. We are at war, we are fighting for our freedom. Nobody said it was easy since free people (with lots of money) are the most dangerous lot.

Be well and take care Mayor


i do not know what your hodling in BTC ,but if your out just keep a small part of it , you know just in case .....
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October 02, 2018, 09:38:19 AM

Meanwhile, I give up. The show's over for me. This money can be put to better use somewhere. I'm sure of it. Thus and so I'm cashing the fuck out before I do anymore damage to myself. God speed, you lot of sophisticates. Give my regards to mister Toronto.

Cheers and bon voyage or whatever.

Though I have a feeling that you going to hold!

In case I would wait till Dec 31 & keep buying.

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October 02, 2018, 09:39:26 AM

Jay, don't take it to heart. Some people can't be helped, and they only learn when life teaches them through pain. When bitcoin reaches a high enough number, they always come back. And when they do, they lose some more money. And I do appreciate the help you give us on this forum.
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October 02, 2018, 09:40:13 AM

I love how you all still have hope. It's refreshing. Undecided
I'd hope it all works out for you, but, well...


The next peak is $180,000 in December 2021.   But the next 12 months are going to be boring and depressing as batshit, with occasional moments of sheer terror.  

Make your plans accordingly.  I suggest deep cold storage. Put it under a concrete slab if necessary.

So you and wekkel are not voting option 4 in here  Roll Eyes

https://twitter.com/fundstrat/status/1046457776753573890?s=21

If we follow the pattern of 2014 / 5, it will bottom between January and September of next year. Except probably a bit sooner because all the traders will be trying to front run the pattern.  You just don’t want to make your run too early so they will want some confirmation before entering.


Spot on IMO. Of course , chart patterns don't repeat precisely, but this long term cycle is very, very clear to anyone who wishes to see it.  

Confirmation before trading take a lot of patience when you are looking at this timescale.

I would say its possible that there will be be another downleg into 2019, but there is also a chance that the low is already in, and the next year or so is just going to be a boring sideways action, with a bit of chop-chop to skim the frequent traders.
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