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[HairyMaclairy]

When you sell shit coffee, you need to engage with the millennials in some other way

[Globb0]

Her pipeline was already too loaded

[jbreher]

And to win trust from these people [ed: fantastic developers, who are the kings of bitcoin and bcash etc], Bitcoin needs to show that it’s scalable, stable, and permissionless. Without scalability, it’s not so attractive to these people because they would rather spend their energy building things on other platforms that they can benefit exponentially from. And without the perception of permissionless innovation and stability, wise developers will not want to waste their energy building stuff on top of Bitcoin because they don’t want to wake up one day to find that the rules of the game have changed overnight and all their effort has gone to waste.

Note the last sentence in the excerpt:

…they don’t want to wake up one day to find that the rules of the game have changed overnight and all their effort has gone to waste.

(Which is what would have happened to a bitcoiner waking up after a big blocker coup.)

The SegWit Omnibus Changeset, anyone?

And by the way, which marvelous applications have these developers built on bcash?

Yours and its ilk are possibly compelling, MoneyButton certainly is. It will be interesting to see what the author's contributions will lead to. _opreturn. read.cash. A DB interface over the raw blockchain is certainly the type of infrastructure that can be used for good. ERC721 tokens. KeyPort. Coinfunder. ChainTip. BitcoinCashKit. Flowee. BitBox. ka-ching. HandCash...

Anything at all that couldn't work on BTC?

Anything involving mundane day to day commerce.

[Ludwig Von]

Who sells at the bottom?

A man needs to eat.

There’s no shame in being young and poor. The only shame in being poor is when we quit trying to make life better.

Now, shut the fuck up, rob a bank, buy some bitcoin and retire with the rest of us. If you get caught robbing the bank don’t worry because it’s three hots and a cot. Also, there’s an entirely different stigma attached to being a criminal. When you’re poor people pitty you. When you’re a criminal they fear you.

There is nothing in a bank to rob, except debt. 

Turn water into wine. 

Agh, yeah that trick, tried many times, never worked... .  

[El duderino_]

Only a plain bagel at these coin prices boys.

 You should have had pancakes!  Torroidal functions are much harder to simulate than circles; you're glitching the simulation.

finally caught a merit to Spend one for this post

awesome LOL

[realr0ach]

I love how the Jew supremacists of the thread chose this particular picture to try and pretend whites are the inferior race compsed of irrational, ugly, and stupid people who just can't stop irrationally gassing the Jews for no reason. The guy in the picture isn't even a Nazi, it's a fucking confederate flag.  I think that picture was from when SJWs (useful idiot NPCs of the Jews) were trying to tear down confederate monuments to try and delete all white history so they can be malleable people of no past, and you just can't have white people self-governed with state's rights when the goal is a global, communist govt run by Jews either.

The fact there's an angry lesbian attempting to start a fist fight...with a man...to try and protest against state's rights and sovereignty just demonstrates why women should never be allowed to vote.  Meanwhile, the outlier fat and ugly white people you use as your examples are roughly equivalent to non-outlier, regular Jews who typically always look like this:



Or this:



Oh yea, and Hairy McLairy is an actual, real-life Jew shill kike for anyone that didn't know.

[jbreher]

You guys bought coins for your loved ones as xmas gifts yet?

Every Xmas since years.

Hey man, just give them whats gonna have value in a few years.... DO NOT GIVE LOVED ONES phony coins !!!

GTFOOH south your 'phony coins'. You have no flipping idea.

Hey dad, heres your shitcoin worth $500 $300 $250 $200 $100 $25 $5 ..... Might as well give him a bigmac coupon ^^

Again, you have no flipping idea. Astounding in your ignorance even. Let's just say that the progeny have certainly enjoyed santa's visits.

So santa does come early @jbrehers?
To be sure phony coins hold at least some value?  

Astounding double-down upon your ignorance.

why? cause i'm not into ABC-SV-ver-csw etc .... ?

No. However, the question was raised as to who was gifting bitcoin. I was one of the few (only?) who replied, and I am taking flak for it. I mean WT actual F?

You are publicly displaying an astounding level of ignorance by assuming what I am gifting, and being hostile besides by using this as a vector to denigrate my preferences.

If you want to have an intelligent conversation on the topic, go mine my posts for the last several years first to understand where I'm coming from. After your dropping instantly into attack mode, I ain't gonna spoon feed you. And if you insist on continuing to argue from ignorance, I'm done with this convo.

[Last of the V8s]

https://medium.com/@giottodf/rsk-and-rif-os-bringing-smart-contracts-over-bitcoin-1cbeebb0d9d4
not much love for rsk?

[realr0ach]

Start of WW III - this picture means Salvini soon goes full Mussolini.  Puts rapefugees in camps first, Jews next:

[jbreher]

Anything at all that couldn't work on BTC?

Anything involving mundane day to day commerce.

Don't forget the block size can always be scaled up, we don't need to try and pretend that 128mb blocks should be here today.

While it is true that technically, block size can be scaled up, the Core has already demonstrated that it is hostile to the very idea of inexpensive tx fees. What with gmax drinking 'champaign' over $50 fees and whatnot.

No, we don't need 128MB blocks today. But the time to scale up the blocksize was before the blocks became persistently full. Now, no business with any brain is willing to bet their livelihood on the chance that block size will be increased in order to stave off the next blockalypse. Those whose business models were destroyed in 2H17 are unlikely to return. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice... fool... won't get fooled again.

And you can dissemble all you want, but the demand for Blockstream's paid Liquid (so-called-but-not-really) Sidechain is undeniably increased in the face of chain congestion. Whether or not this was a causative factor in the Fail To Scale[tm] is irrelevant. It will be seen as intentional by at least a segment of the target market.

[samson]

Start of WW III - this picture means Salvini soon goes full Mussolini.  Puts rapefugees in camps first, Jews next:

I will settle for the total collapse of the EU and its currency : The Euro.

I have a feeling this will happen and Italy will be the catalyst.

[bitserve]

WTF!

Isn't this thread supposed to be just tumbleweeds now?

Now, how do I get up to date?

This is not how capitulation works, mind you.

[realr0ach]

Start of WW III - this picture means Salvini soon goes full Mussolini.  Puts rapefugees in camps first, Jews next:

I will settle for the total collapse of the EU and its currency : The Euro.

I have a feeling this will happen and Italy will be the catalyst.

Of course Italy will be the catalyst.  That's one reason Jew puppet Macron is trying to shill for a "European army".  The military is nothing more than the collection agency of the international zio-banks.  How else are you going to attempt to get Italy to pay?  You can't.

[ivomm]

https://www.bitstamp.net/article/partnership-enhance-customer-protection-and-market/
This is the surveillance stuff that the SEC needs to pass the ETF

https://www.coindesk.com/clayton-sec-ico-funding-security-offering
mentioned here, as well as xrp being a security/needing a lot of info lol

A quote from the interview:
Jay Clayton, chairman of the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC), said Tuesday that he doesn’t see a pathway to a cryptocurrency ETF approval until concerns over market manipulation are addressed.“How that [manipulation] issue gets addressed, I don’t have a particular path. But it needs to be addressed” before an ETF gets approved, Clayton remarked during CoinDesk’s Consensus: Invest conference.


There has been some progress recently regarding vaneck addressing the manipulation issues. Vaneck declared who are the partners for OTC deals. They will be regulated by CFTC.
https://www.cryptoglobe.com/latest/2018/11/vaneck-subsidiary-mvis-reveals-the-otc-exchanges-behind-the-bitcoin-etf-index/
Circle OTC platform - Circle Trade is one of them. I've read somewhere that currently CFTC is auditing their activity (USDC etc.).

I don't know if Clayton is sincere or he is just hiding behind this 'manipulation' mantra.
1. Vaneck ETF proposal is desinged for accredited, not retail investors.
2. The deals will be made by OTC desks. As noted in the presentation, manipulation of the price of OTC deals is impossible without the participation of the desks themselves.
3. OTC desks will be regulated by CFTC, which already began its work.
4. It is seen in the last months that any rumour about manipulation of Asian usdt exchanges (so far not proven) is punished by the USA exchanges with lower prices.

Finally, it seems that 2 commissioners are for ETF, and in Dec. one more will be replaced. Whatever the staff decides it will be up to him to determine the approval of the ETF.

[Globb0]

[El duderino_]

You guys bought coins for your loved ones as xmas gifts yet?

Every Xmas since years.

refresh,
thats nice man everybody does like a x-mass present...
i didn't bought coins actualy, but just some presents some could be BTC-related
looking forward for x-mass

[El duderino_]

https://media.giphy.com/media/14ceV8wMLIGO6Q/giphy.gif

MAN did i expect to see something else on my charts

[Ibian]

An actual european army would be the biggest disaster of the century. As in, the past hundred years. Bigger than even the two hundred million corpses brought about by socialism. We can not afford to let it happen.

[Ludwig Von]

Start of WW III - this picture means Salvini soon goes full Mussolini.  Puts rapefugees in camps first, Jews next:

Is not going to happen. They will as usual make a lot of noise and then our usual drunks, Tusk and Stuka will settle the issue.

[HairyMaclairy]