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Question: 9/19 Closing Price:
0 - 1 (1.6%)
<$10,000 - 3 (4.8%)
$10,000-$10,500 - 2 (3.2%)
$10,501-$11,000 - 13 (20.6%)
$11,001-$11,500 - 19 (30.2%)
$11,501-$12,000 - 8 (12.7%)
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$12,501-$13,000 - 2 (3.2%)
>$13,000 - 3 (4.8%)
>$20,000 - 5 (7.9%)
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January 20, 2019, 01:49:21 AM

No it's just one of the problems of your democracy. Neither a left nor a right thing, but a lack of anything better thing.

Better things:

1.  Properly funded education system
2.  Properly funded NHS

But that requires the ability to see past the end of your nose.  

There is no money for that. Pay for your own shit.

Typical conservative beggar thy neighbor approach.  Don't let corporates get away with paying less than 1% tax and suddenly there is enough funding for everything.  

Why the fuck does a UK power station need to be owned by a company in the Caymans that itself is owned by a company in Turkey that is owned by a Dutch limited partnership?  Cut that bullshit and you would be amazed how much revenue is available to the government. 
http://www.usdebtclock.org/

There literally is no money for it. It's not a matter of politics or opinions or feelings. There is no money.
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January 20, 2019, 01:50:31 AM

Quote from: Yeats
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.
Always found the first part of this difficult to understand, while it's all too easy to see the latter part.
Certainly we need better leaders.

The best realise the world is not black and white.  Their caution is taken as prevarication.
Dunning-Kruger effect. The less you know the more secure you are in your own omniscience, the more you know the less secure you are. There is a third stage, knowledgeable and secure in your knowledge. But that is extremely rare.

Exhibit 1:  FoxNews

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Watching Only Fox News Makes You Less Informed Than Watching No News At All

https://www.businessinsider.com.au/study-watching-fox-news-makes-you-less-informed-than-watching-no-news-at-all-2012-5?r=US&IR=T
Indeed, exhibit the one. Notice how they never say where the study is from in their links or headlines. There is a reason for that.

Its linked in the article...

http://publicmind.fdu.edu/2012/confirmed/
Most people don't read past the headline. That is the reason.
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January 20, 2019, 01:53:30 AM

No it's just one of the problems of your democracy. Neither a left nor a right thing, but a lack of anything better thing.

Better things:

1.  Properly funded education system
2.  Properly funded NHS

But that requires the ability to see past the end of your nose.  

There is no money for that. Pay for your own shit.

Typical conservative beggar thy neighbor approach.  Don't let corporates get away with paying less than 1% tax and suddenly there is enough funding for everything.  

Why the fuck does a UK power station need to be owned by a company in the Caymans that itself is owned by a company in Turkey that is owned by a Dutch limited partnership?  Cut that bullshit and you would be amazed how much revenue is available to the government. 
http://www.usdebtclock.org/

There literally is no money for it. It's not a matter of politics or opinions or feelings. There is no money.

But there is $5 billion for a wall?
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January 20, 2019, 01:58:24 AM
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For a potential future societal structure I suggest to read or re-read "Snow Crash" by Neal Stephenson (first published in 1992).

Cliffnotes?

 Deadpool delivers pizza.  I don't think we can seriously believe anything was "predicted" given that it was published in 1992.

 You can listen to it while you're working on other things... that way it wont be an entire waste of your time Wink

edit: forgot the link!  Part 1 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-ZiG4FsYAg  (and only 8 hours... suggest you boost the speed to 1.5X)
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January 20, 2019, 02:01:16 AM

Wow Homer you're only the second person I've ever heard dissing Snow Crash. I was a bit meh about it myself. The other gentleman was ... Romanian.

edit: wait sorry it was one of his 'better' books lols http://trilema.com/2017/we-shall-now-read-anathem/
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... the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.
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January 20, 2019, 02:05:50 AM

... the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.

Yes, that's nutty.
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January 20, 2019, 02:06:44 AM

Wow Homer you're only the second person I've ever heard dissing Snow Crash. I was a bit meh about it myself. The other gentleman was ... Romanian.

 LOL
Seriously I laughed when I read this.  Romanians are very discerning.

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January 20, 2019, 02:12:33 AM
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For a potential future societal structure I suggest to read or re-read "Snow Crash" by Neal Stephenson (first published in 1992).

Cliffnotes?

 Deadpool delivers pizza.  I don't think we can seriously believe anything was "predicted" given that it was published in 1992.

 You can listen to it while you're working on other things... that way it wont be an entire waste of your time Wink

edit: forgot the link!  Part 1 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-ZiG4FsYAg  (and only 8 hours... suggest you boost the speed to 1.5X)


a bit more happening than just pizza delivery...lol
thanks for the link.


... the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.

unrelated to the content of the quote...
Murad Mahmudov (second person quoted) is that 20-something guy who is full of pseudo-scientific explanations as to why btc has to go to $1700 first (then to 10mil), which on balance is mightily annoying.
I guess he wants btc to get low before his fund buy-in. I don't blame him.
IMHO, not enough time (in relation to halving) for that if cycle is about to increase in duration (as he claims).
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January 20, 2019, 02:48:16 AM

... the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.
unrelated to the content of the quote...
Murad Mahmudov (second person quoted) is that 20-something guy who is full of pseudo-scientific explanations as to why btc has to go to $1700 first (then to 10mil), which on balance is mightily annoying.
I guess he wants btc to get low before his fund buy-in. I don't blame him.
IMHO, not enough time (in relation to halving) for that if cycle is about to increase in duration (as he claims).
you know that's partly why I left it ambiguous who I was calling what. i don't even really think any of the people there are 'the worst', but they are certainly full of crap
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January 20, 2019, 02:52:44 AM

... the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.
unrelated to the content of the quote...
Murad Mahmudov (second person quoted) is that 20-something guy who is full of pseudo-scientific explanations as to why btc has to go to $1700 first (then to 10mil), which on balance is mightily annoying.
I guess he wants btc to get low before his fund buy-in. I don't blame him.
IMHO, not enough time (in relation to halving) for that if cycle is about to increase in duration (as he claims).
you know that's partly why I left it ambiguous who I was calling what. i don't even really think any of the people there are 'the worst', but they are certainly full of crap

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No it's just one of the problems of your democracy. Neither a left nor a right thing, but a lack of anything better thing.

Better things:

1.  Properly funded education system
2.  Properly funded NHS

But that requires the ability to see past the end of your nose.  

There is no money for that. Pay for your own shit.

Typical conservative beggar thy neighbor approach.  Don't let corporates get away with paying less than 1% tax and suddenly there is enough funding for everything.  

Why the fuck does a UK power station need to be owned by a company in the Caymans that itself is owned by a company in Turkey that is owned by a Dutch limited partnership?  Cut that bullshit and you would be amazed how much revenue is available to the government.  
http://www.usdebtclock.org/

There literally is no money for it. It's not a matter of politics or opinions or feelings. There is no money.

But there is $5 billion for a wall?
Yes. It's called an investment. You may have heard of the concept?

It's also almost nothing compared to the other stuff you want.
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January 20, 2019, 03:18:50 AM

Possible bart/de-bart scenario spotted.  #dyor
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January 20, 2019, 03:52:04 AM

 Don't let corporates get away with paying less than 1% tax and suddenly there is enough funding for everything.  

Life was indeed simpler before I realized that corporations can not be made to pay any taxes whatsoever.

No corporation has ever paid ANY tax in history.
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January 20, 2019, 04:12:00 AM

Yes. It's called an investment. You may have heard of the concept?

Walls are investments.  But education and health are not investments.  Got it. 
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Don't let corporates get away with paying less than 1% tax and suddenly there is enough funding for everything.  

Life was indeed simpler before I realized that corporations can not be made to pay any taxes whatsoever.

No corporation has ever paid ANY tax in history.

I personally paid more income tax last year than Ikea paid corporate tax in my country, despite them having operated here for a long time.  One person.  I earn a good living but I really don't earn *that* much.   And they have billions of revenue here.  

You wonder why there's no money in the government treasury - that's your answer.
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January 20, 2019, 04:29:22 AM

Yes. It's called an investment. You may have heard of the concept?

Walls are investments.  But education and health are not investments.  Got it. 
Again, it's almost nothing compared to the other stuff. And I know you know this. You are being deliberately obtuse.
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Yes. It's called an investment. You may have heard of the concept?

Walls are investments.  But education and health are not investments.  Got it.  
Again, it's almost nothing compared to the other stuff. And I know you know this. You are being deliberately obtuse.
On the other hand, you don't seem so deliberate this time.
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Yes. It's called an investment. You may have heard of the concept?

Walls are investments.  But education and health are not investments.  Got it. 
Again, it's almost nothing compared to the other stuff. And I know you know this. You are being deliberately obtuse.

We haven’t started talking about the $2.5 trillion in tax cuts.
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