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January 23, 2019, 07:49:01 PM

lol Raja wins ^

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Anyone in the first world who got a STEM degree in the last 100 years, and is otherwise employable, has had no problem finding a high paying job. I'd wager the same will be true for the next 50 years, anyway.

If you didn't go to college, or received a bachelor's degree in something useless, like psychology or art history, then you're obviously in for a rougher ride. And that's all on you.

This is obviously not true because I just quoted employment stats for engineers in Canada the other day and it was like 30% employment for new grads.  Going into STEM doesn't guarantee you jack shit now.  I guess you can make the excuse for such abysmal stats that their jobs were all shipped to China or something, and that everyone needs to apply 2000% tariffs to all Chinese goods to fix it, but it's what the current situation is.

As for the nature of capitalism, capitalism is just a synonym for natural selection.  The purpose of natural selection is basically for the strong to kill off the weak, or encroach upon their territory and resources, exploit them, starve them to death.  In a collective arrangement known as a nation, knowing what the purpose of capitalism is, do you think anyone would actually choose pure, anything goes, unadulterated capitalism if the results were giant swathes of the population agreeing to be economically exterminated or enslaved?  80% or higher of the population?

All the jobs being outsourced to China, India, or wherever through global labor arbitrage is about as capitalistic as it gets.  This is capitalism - monopoly men and middlemen exploiting and killing off everyone.  A nation is a type of collective agreement, typically always between an ethnocentric collective - because all non-ethnocentric nations collapse.  If people are coming together to create any type of collective or rules based game, they're typically NOT going to agree to play one with such bad results.

The purpose of a nation is for ordinary, valuable, or contributing members of that society to survive, not to try and kill them off on purpose.  This is how systems like national socialism from the Nazis arise, because capitalism isn't even possible if you're going to have any form of national government.  The second you create any form of national govt that can impose it's will on everyone, capitalism is over.  You can either have pretend capitalism, which is just going to be some klepocratic, crony capitalistic, too big to fail monopolies that are your new slave owners, or you can have national socialism where instead of the government making all public policy based upon "what is good for the crony capitalism corporation", policy is based upon "what is good for the common white man".

It sounds extreme, but the vast majority of nations already practice some form of this, because like I said, pure, unadultered capitalism doesn't have a very viable conclusion.  The breakup of monopolies I would consider a national socialist ideal.  The govt stopped doing so because it drifted away from national socialism and the greater good of white people towards crony capitalism.  Free enterprise and everything else would still exist as well, just not to the extreme detriment of the whole.
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January 23, 2019, 07:50:52 PM


How fucking dumb.  Both the kid and his lawsuit should be thrown out on his ass, and slapped in the face.  Furthermore, that frivolous lawsuit should not have survived long enough to even have gotten one line of actual publicity.  Grow some balls, gaylord.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

By the way, look at my gay looking avatar.  I could give a shit, if posters get distracted into irrelevant nonsense personal attacks based on an avatar... and surely, such attacks have happened, and do I give much shits, except for mentioning how distracted those folks are?


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Dump incoming?

Or will it do nothing to the price as we expected it to be rejected any way.

Edit - It’s 2019 JJG. There’s no stigma attached to being gay now. The closer is ajar, waiting for you to burst out Wink
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January 23, 2019, 07:58:19 PM

Jan Van Eck stated on air on CNBC ETF that it was because it wasnt getting passed and they needed more time to convince SEC about overseas bitcoin trading issues.
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January 23, 2019, 08:00:42 PM

Jan Van Eck stated on air on CNBC ETF that it was because it wasnt getting passed and they needed more time to convince SEC about overseas bitcoin trading issues.
when was that do you know?
there's some discrepancy between the date of his decision (yesterday according to the doc) and the publication date by the SEC - today
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January 23, 2019, 08:01:13 PM

Jan Van Eck stated on air on CNBC ETF that it was because it wasnt getting passed and they needed more time to convince SEC about overseas bitcoin trading issues.

Sure and with the shutdown, its delayed everything.
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Dump incoming?
Or will it do nothing to the price as we expected it to be rejected any way.
Edit - It’s 2019 JJG. There’s no stigma attached to being gay now. The closer is ajar, waiting for you to burst out Wink
The dump isn't even that bad (yet?). Maybe you're right and it's all priced in... Additionally, voluntary withdrawal much better perceived than rejection.
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January 23, 2019, 08:02:35 PM

Jan Van Eck stated on air on CNBC ETF that it was because it wasnt getting passed and they needed more time to convince SEC about overseas bitcoin trading issues.

Everyone who isn't a complete moron knows the bitcoin market is the world's greatest scam as long as the crooked exchange Bitfinex is the market maker for price.  I'm not sure how ANY legislator could pass anything without nuking Bitfinex off the face of the planet first.  And where's all the other volume at?  Why...the useless scam bucketshop Bitmex.

Bucketshops are fucking illegal in most aspects of finance and countries in the world.  How are you going to bring anything to the mainstream that's run almost entirely by two hoax exchanges?  I'm not biased on the situation at all. Even if I was pro-bitcoin, I would NEVER sign off on any ETF or other retardedness as long as Bitfinex controls price if I was the legislator.
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January 23, 2019, 08:09:05 PM

lol Raja wins ^

OTOH, it seems like bitcoin is winning too, by defending $3600. Smiley

I just hope that we don't get any sort of delayed sell-off.
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January 23, 2019, 08:12:17 PM

so far so good^ Cheesy

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Why Ethereum 1.0 failed and Bitcoin succeeded:

https://medium.com/@noahruderman/why-ethereum-1-0-failed-and-bitcoin-succeeded-72e9594b9789

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Ethereum 1.0 wouldn’t be undergoing a complete redesign unless it had major flaws. So how did we get here? And why did Bitcoin seem to fare much better? Two important factors are user experience and economics. At at minimum, for a product to succeed it needs to be a compelling alternative to an existing problem, and the transaction fee must not exceed the economic value of the actual transactions. Together these point to an upwards trajectory for Bitcoin and a downwards trajectory for Ethereum 1.0.
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January 23, 2019, 08:17:41 PM


You know you're dumpster diving for pro-bitcoin propaganda when you pretend irrelevant taco countries are the shining city on a hill that's going to bring humanity into the future.  INB4, but r0ach, some random guy from Argentina nobodys ever heard of did so and so.  Those people are descended from white Euros from Spain you assholes.  They aren't even taco people.
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For the record - My savings (net worth) is much more bitcoin than fiat heavy. I know it’s stupid but it’s a risk I’m willing to take.

I invested a bit less than 13% of my quasi-liquid assets into bitcoin between late 2013 and late 2015, and largely, currently, the value of that BTC portion of my investment adds up to a bit more than all of my fiat investments - of course due to appreciation of the BTC portion of the investment rather than devaluation of the fiat portion.  The fiat portion has gone up too, but really mediocre performance as compared to bitcoin, which caused BTC to become majority.

During mid to late 2016, I was toiling a bit in my head about whether I should be reallocating some of my BTC investment back into fiat, and even though I took a bit out of BTC, really,  I considered that I was not going to worry about letting the vast majority of the bitcoin to just ride through the cycle.... I think similar to you and several other WO HODLers... of course, we could have been a bit more rich by withdrawing more of the BTC value, but we are mostly content by our choice to HODL through and employ more incremental rather than an extreme approach to our BTC investment.
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You know you're dumpster diving for pro-bitcoin propaganda when you pretend irrelevant taco countries are the shining city on a hill that's going to bring humanity into the future.  INB4, but r0ach, some random guy from Argentina nobodys ever heard of did so and so.  Those people are descended from white Euros from Spain you assholes.  They aren't even taco people.

Taco countries. Haha. I don't care what anyone says. You are an asset to this community.
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January 23, 2019, 08:28:04 PM

I say that both of you (jbreher and BTCMILLIONAIRE) are on the wrong side on this subject. Many times it is just random events, and not the effort.

Which is, of course, why the lazy and the stupid are universally wallowing in riches, and the soup kitchens cater to those that identify opportunities and work ceaselessly to attain the next rung up.

Right.

 Roll Eyes

It's true.  Much of striking it rich is entirely luck.  I know a couple people who know ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about trading, markets, bitcoin, anything, that bought the worst alt-shitcoins ever and made anywhere from hundreds of thousands of dollars to a million just because someone pumped them while they owned them.  The shitcoin Expanse was one of them in particular.  I think it went up like +50x in one day.  I've never seen any pump and dump like that before.
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Dump incoming?

Or will it do nothing to the price as we expected it to be rejected any way.

Edit - It’s 2019 JJG. There’s no stigma attached to being gay now. The closer is ajar, waiting for you to burst out Wink

O.k, the point is not about me.  I am asking, why the fuck is gaylord's lawsuit seeing any light of day, beyond how it was thrown out on its ass along with the retarded infant gaylord fag?  
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Why Ethereum 1.0 failed and Bitcoin succeeded:

https://medium.com/@noahruderman/why-ethereum-1-0-failed-and-bitcoin-succeeded-72e9594b9789

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Ethereum 1.0 wouldn’t be undergoing a complete redesign unless it had major flaws. So how did we get here? And why did Bitcoin seem to fare much better? Two important factors are user experience and economics. At at minimum, for a product to succeed it needs to be a compelling alternative to an existing problem, and the transaction fee must not exceed the economic value of the actual transactions. Together these point to an upwards trajectory for Bitcoin and a downwards trajectory for Ethereum 1.0.

the sooner the alts die, the sooner this bear market turns around. an imploding* eth would surely drag down btc down initially.

*-92% is already an implosion.
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Let the dump begin.

3k this weekend  Cry
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