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[600watt]

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/23/bitcoin-price-going-to-zero-davos-future-of-blockchain-tech-.html


BULLISH !!!

man, this article/report is disturbingly stupid.

The price of bitcoin could nosedive to zero, Jeff Schumacher, founder of BCG Digital Ventures, said during a CNBC-hosted panel at the Sanctuary in Davos.

Jeff, didn´t you get the memo? If bitcoin goes to zero all alts will have been there long before. If the most robust one, the only decentralized coin will go to zero, where is the reason to buy any shitcoin?

All agreed that the value of tokens will be derived from how useful the underlying protocol is.

wtf, yes of course! bitcoin up for a decade, flawless, robust, unfonfiscateable with plenty of real life use cases in contrast to all the thousands of shitcoins with no use case at fucking all.

"I do believe it will go to zero. I think it's a great technology but I don't believe it's a currency. It's not based on anything," Jeff Schumacher, founder of BCG Digital Ventures, said during a CNBC-hosted panel in Davos, Switzerland.

Jeff... oh dear. uncensoreable 24/7 value transfer, quick and cheap, outside of governments and banks is a major breakthrough. and..what exactly are alts based on?

Schumacher is a big investor in blockchain-focused companies.

the "blockchain-not-bitcoin" narrative is dead. All those millions invested in "blockchain" - where the fuck are the results? the products? the use-cases?
 

...Brad Garlinghouse, CEO of Ripple, that the focus for him as an investor is on the underlying technology known as blockchain.

lol, ripplescam doesn´t even run on a blockchain. ripple is as innovative as airline miles.

Schumacher said the industry is now trying to create "open decentralized systems."

Jeff... bitcoin already exists. what are you talking about?

similar to cloud computing today.

wtf?

what a shit(coin)show.

[El duderino_]

https://www.icorush.com/news/romania-bitcoin-crypto-profit-tax/

for XhomerX but surely he already knows .....

[infofront]

McAfee for president 2020.

McAfee claims he has been indicted by U.S. tax authorities and plans to run his campaign from a boat in international waters.

https://cointelegraph.com/news/mcafee-to-lead-2020-presidential-campaign-in-exile-after-alleged-irs-indictment

How we will run my campaign in exile:

https://twitter.com/officialmcafee/status/1087891254875168768

He looks really coked out on that video.

[El duderino_]

https://worldnewsdailyreport.com/teenager-sues-his-parents-for-250000-for-naming-him-gaylord/?fbclid=IwAR2LSKPGl0ub5zc8crrIGcjaLvbclKgoRgGwiQeq--PWszZGmcqN7ARBThw

Gaylord Focker

haha didn't saw that... sues his parents.... (but what WTF haha)

btw love those movies

[gwaur]

Ugandan firm uses blockchain to trace coffee from farms to stores
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-uganda-coffee/ugandan-firm-uses-blockchain-to-trace-coffee-from-farms-to-stores-idUSKCN1PH1ZW?il=0

An Ugandan company has started using blockchain, the technology behind virtual currency Bitcoin, to certify shipments of coffee to try to meet growing demand from consumers for more information about where products have come from.

[yugo23]

Can I have the bull hat at avatar sized? Seems to me like bull era is nearby.

The more FUD is produced, the less useful it is.
Prices are stable while everyone is crying BTC will go to 0...

That's the sign rise is close.

[El duderino_]

Can I have the bull hat at avatar sized? Seems to me like bull era is nearby.

The more FUD is produced, the less useful it is.
Prices are stable while everyone is crying BTC will go to 0...

That's the sign rise is close.

I think the last BULL-hat was for and claimed by HM (HairyMaclairy)

but if you ask XhomerX to create A bull hat he probably will come with something amazing (and if you prefer with some image of your own)
just send it to him

comrade XhomerX is always in to help a fellow BTC'er WO member

[rhomelmabini]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/aiytou/the_bitcoin_phenomenon_a_great_documentary_that/

nice video...

This video is what everyone needs to see. I really like the last statement being dropped.

The game is a marathon not a sprint, it is a game that involves high stake, risk, drama, influence, persuasion, money, politics, psychology, philosophy, economics and history. For some reason this is a game many people find tantalizing and sometimes that's all it takes to play a game and eventually redefine our world forever.

Thanks for sharing this @micgoossens.

[El duderino_]

^
I also really liked the "small docu"
THX

[d_eddie]

It's hard for sinsemilla to spread her seed without losing sinsemilla status!  

I had to think about this for a little while.

It was The Miraculous Sensemilla.

The Rastafarian version of the Immaculate Conception?

[Hueristic]

So you are stating that the child soldier in your example would be better off complaining than trying to figure out how to stay alive or find a way out of his current life?

I have been speaking in generalities but yes if that was his only outlet other than getting killed. I refer now you back to my original post, this is why speaking in absolutes is always wrong.

So you'd rather have people complain and die than having them trying to figure out steps to improve their life in whatever ways accessible to them. How is that supposed to ever accomplish anything?

Which part of "other than" did you not understand?

I have been speaking in generalities but yes if that was his only outlet other than getting killed. I refer now you back to my original post, this is why speaking in absolutes is always wrong.

Absolutely. Always.

+WO

General reminder to everyone that slavery has been abolished in our part of the world for hundreds of years.

General reminder that there are no criminals and everyone adheres to the law.

[Last of the V8s]

[jojo69]

If said slave chooses to spend time that he could've used e.g. on devising an escape plan on complaining.

oh for fuck's sake   

[jojo69]

I have no idea what whining and the lack of effort both of you keep talking about. It is probably something personal since you are so adamant about it.

Get a JOB Mr. Lebowski

[Hueristic]

If said slave chooses to spend time that he could've used e.g. on devising an escape plan on complaining.

That's a joke right?  

We are talking about young girls who are chained to beds to work as prostitutes.  We are talking about kids on fishing trawlers in the middle of the Pacific Ocean.  We are talking about people who have been in North Korean concentration camps for two generations, whose entire family will be executed if they escape.  

Your opinion is they should not complain about their circumstances, and we as wealthy Westerners should not try to help them? 

We should not try to help them. We should keep them out of our country. We have enough problems to deal with. Some of them arguably more severe than theirs.

That really is the crux of the debate, should we help the guy on the other side of the street or put up a wall and ignore his plight. And I would postulate that your opinion on this depends on just what kind of a person you are.

“Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free.”

[Last of the V8s]

[Hueristic]

If said slave chooses to spend time that he could've used e.g. on devising an escape plan on complaining.

That's a joke right?  

We are talking about young girls who are chained to beds to work as prostitutes.  We are talking about kids on fishing trawlers in the middle of the Pacific Ocean.  We are talking about people who have been in North Korean concentration camps for two generations, whose entire family will be executed if they escape.  

Your opinion is they should not complain about their circumstances, and we as wealthy Westerners should not try to help them?  

You keep pulling shit out of your ass and trying to shove it down my throat.

You act as if I had stated that considering helping them or actively (trying to) do so shouldn't be allowed, which is false. None of that crap has anything to do with the argument though.


Name me one example in which you will see strictly better results by complaining than by thinking up different potential solutions. You can't. Because complaining is a destructive force with a net effect that is either zero or negative.
Nobody is stopping you from helping others, and props to you if you're not just a hypocrite running your mouth and actually doing what you preach to others (which I doubt). But none of that has anything to do with the fact that energy invested in complaining is wasted energy.

Best case you will make people aware of a given problem, but if that was your goal there are vastly more efficient ways that won't cause other gullible people to just complain as well.

Simply denying they have a right to complain about their situation is detrimental to their cause. Deriding them is paramount to helping oppress them.

I may not agree with what you have to say but I will fight to the death for your right to say it.

But you should be aware of what repercussions your words may reap, if you are aware and still don't care then I will fail to listen although still acknowledge your right to speech. Even hate speech should be free although abhorrent, the problem is you can;t draw the line clearly, one mans hate is another mans reality.

[jojo69]

I'm telling them to shut the fuck up and seek out incremental improvements in their own life-style.

No

You are telling those less fortunate than yourself that you are tired of hearing about their problems, that they should be silent and submissive in the face of oppression.  Do so at your peril.

Personally, I have found that nothing quite gets the attention of those in power like the smell of burning Mercedes upholstery.  

So beware of advising people to take concrete actions to improve their conditions rather than attempting it through dialog.

It has perhaps been too long since certain folks were reminded that the guillotine remains an option.

[El duderino_]

I have no idea what whining and the lack of effort both of you keep talking about. It is probably something personal since you are so adamant about it.

Get a JOB Mr. Lebowski

Haha, what a scène of that marvelous movie

Btw i’m not me lebowski you’re me lebowski
I’m micgooss so that how you call me, that or his Micness or miccer or el Micgi’erino, if you’re not into the whole brevity thing

[Hueristic]

Name me one example in which you will see strictly better results by complaining than by thinking up different potential solutions. You can't. Because complaining is a destructive force with a net effect that is either zero or negative.

What you call "complaining" I call advocacy.  And advocacy works.  We wouldn't have the UK modern slavery laws without advocacy.  

Making it illegal for Western companies to profit from slavery is highly effective, because the directors go directly to jail.  And guess what, company directors sit up in their chairs and pay attention when you say "if you don't do X, you will go to jail".   Then the directors tell their C-suite, "don't fuck up on X, or I will fire you without hesitation".  Those are real results, in real time.  

That is one you will see strictly better results by "complaining" rather than blaming the victim.  

Because what you are doing is blaming the slave for being a slave.  And that achieves nothing.  People like you avoid having to take responsibility for anything by always blaming the victim.  "If he wasn't such a dissident, he wouldn't have gone to Chinese prison camp".  

You keep ignoring one crucial thing. How does trying to get rid of slavery in shithole countries benefit us?

Discussing something is the opposite of "ignoring" it. Dismissing it it is exactly "ignoring" it.

NOW, tell me who is doing what here.

Ohh shit, 5 pages and I don't have time for this shit this morning. BBL to argue.