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Question: Oct. 5 Closing Price:
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$9,000-$9,500 - 13 (9.2%)
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$11,000-$11,500 - 2 (1.4%)
$11,500-$12,000 - 4 (2.8%)
>$12,000 - 17 (12.1%)
>$20,000 - 9 (6.4%)
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July 15, 2019, 09:06:05 PM

Steven Mnuchin Speaks on Crypto Regulation

Boy, Steve is so scared.



I can understand him, but boy, he's going to drown under this wave.






Most recurring words:

KYC/AML
Terrorists
Money Laundering
Illicit
Regulators/Regulation
Crime
Fraud

Notable Quotes:
"We don't want bad actors (money launderers, terrorists, tax evasion) using cryptocurrencies"
"Cryptocurrencies pose a national security issue"
"I am not comfortable with Facebook launching a cryptocurrency"
"I am not comfortable today. They and others have a lot of work to do before I am comfortable"
"Treasury takes very seriously the role US dollar as world reserve currency"

Recap made by a pro:
https://www.ccn.com/news/steven-mnuchin-crypto-regulation/2019/07/15/


you think that the American government speaks without thinking, without analysis and without opinion of the various governmental agencies.
most people who are against the decisions of the government are not americans. the few americans who think only about their bank account are too, but they forget that the government thinks about banks and not about bank accounts.
Most of arguments are not true, but the one "Cryptocurrencies pose a national security issue" is the more important.
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July 15, 2019, 09:13:38 PM

You guys are missing the point.  

The real threat is compulsory KYC / AML for crypto providers.

The question is what is a “crypto provider”.  If the Fed tried to make github accounts “crypto providers” then we may have a challenge.

Watch this space.
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July 15, 2019, 09:17:26 PM

I never said fuck off to anyone in this noble circle, ripe with the most refined boys, inspiring towards gentlemen status by imbibing hookers, lambos and blow  and a few one gracious ladies chick.

FTFY    Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

You're devoid of any subtlety, JJ!  Roll Eyes
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July 15, 2019, 09:18:33 PM

You guys are missing the point.  

The real threat is compulsory KYC / AML for crypto providers.

The question is what is a “crypto provider”.  If the Fed tried to make github accounts “crypto providers” then we may have a challenge.

Watch this space.

Mainly it boils down to filling our bags before big brother shit hits the fan. BTFD.
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July 15, 2019, 09:18:42 PM

Where are you really? Scotland?





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Europe/Balkan (slovenian gas mask, that tom tailor shirt, the lamp on the ceiling).
Said lamp is sold in brass or grey, you can find it all over yugoslavia (slowenia, croatia, bosnia) in the cheapest of the cheapest retail stores.


EDIT: I forgot Cech Rep, Poland, Hungary and Slovakia. Also the capitalisation points to a mother language from Europe.
Just my cent

Those Gas Masks are all over Europe for a cheap price while having the same function as those expensive ones.

I have a farm/greenhouse and shitty clothes are a must every time i go 200 M away from the house also sometimes i do not get dirty so i keep them on for a while..

No offense. Just sorting the tiles Smiley
I just think you are wasting your time here. The BTC price is quite pointless. Adoption and real world use is far more important, while the price will follow.
Most guys will be happy with $1 as well as $1.000.000 per BTC.
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July 15, 2019, 09:21:28 PM

You guys are missing the point.  

The real threat is compulsory KYC / AML for crypto providers.

The question is what is a “crypto provider”.  If the Fed tried to make github accounts “crypto providers” then we may have a challenge.

Watch this space.

Mainly it boils down to filling our bags before big brother shit hits the fan. BTFD.

Is anybody truly bothered about KYC?

Bittrex, LBC & Coinbase have my docs. Should I really give a shit?
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July 15, 2019, 09:23:36 PM

I think the "Cryptocurrencies pose a national security issue" should be noted here.

The very first article in Thailand that came out about me and the seastead was just a jumbled mess of quoting 3 different news stories about the seastead but they made sure to throw into a random sentence "threat to national security". It made no sense and was counter to the rest of the article but we knew at that point that it was the military telling them to add that in. We knew that they were setting the stage for how the narrative would play out.

Our initial response was to try to hit back with our own PR before the narrative was set but the next day a more bold article came out with a clear message of us being a "threat". That's when we bugged out.

Fortunately for Bitcoin it does not need to flee a crazed military bent on extortion. But I can see it as setting the stage for a narrative of crypto being dangerous and a threat to America (and thus, the world). Then cue the nationalists who will "save America" from this "threat" without even considering if the threat is real or not. They will follow the narrative due to their "love of country".
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July 15, 2019, 09:26:27 PM


No offense. Just sorting the tiles Smiley
I just think you are wasting your time here. The BTC price is quite pointless. Adoption and real world use is far more important, while the price will follow.
Most guys will be happy with $1 as well as $1.000.000 per BTC.

$1 a BTC for measured value against $, wouldn't exactly put a smile on my face nowadays
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July 15, 2019, 09:37:14 PM

You guys are missing the point.  

The real threat is compulsory KYC / AML for crypto providers.

The question is what is a “crypto provider”.  If the Fed tried to make github accounts “crypto providers” then we may have a challenge.

Watch this space.

Mainly it boils down to filling our bags before big brother shit hits the fan. BTFD.

Is anybody truly bothered about KYC?

Bittrex, LBC & Coinbase have my docs. Should I really give a shit?

You might give a shit if the Fed rules Bitcoin Core must incorporate compulsory AML. 

But let’s not give them ideas.
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July 15, 2019, 09:40:58 PM

I never said it to anyone... yet.
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July 15, 2019, 09:57:22 PM

Considering of pulling the trigger as well..... ----> into pretty early HODLsleep Smiley



Goodnight brothers of the Observing Wall.
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July 15, 2019, 09:59:25 PM

people do not want to stop buying bitcoin 
They have to keep their bitcoin , We will sell 21 000 000 BTC
Humans do not cooperate with each other unfortunately
Companies you must sell all your bitcoin News is a little bad
They fear the end of bitcoin  We will mine more than 21 million BTC
Every season they comewith new bad work
Come on, Ghost do it now , We do not need human scum they are afraid of everything

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July 15, 2019, 10:00:32 PM

I think the "Cryptocurrencies pose a national security issue" should be noted here.

The very first article in Thailand that came out about me and the seastead was just a jumbled mess of quoting 3 different news stories about the seastead but they made sure to throw into a random sentence "threat to national security". It made no sense and was counter to the rest of the article but we knew at that point that it was the military telling them to add that in. We knew that they were setting the stage for how the narrative would play out.

Our initial response was to try to hit back with our own PR before the narrative was set but the next day a more bold article came out with a clear message of us being a "threat". That's when we bugged out.

Fortunately for Bitcoin it does not need to flee a crazed military bent on extortion. But I can see it as setting the stage for a narrative of crypto being dangerous and a threat to America (and thus, the world). Then cue the nationalists who will "save America" from this "threat" without even considering if the threat is real or not. They will follow the narrative due to their "love of country".
I do agree.
"Cryptocurrencies pose a national security issue", yes, of course. But it is not the taxes being at risk, or the literal security of the country, being at risk, but it is the US Dollar being at risk, with all the corollaries in terms of established powers.
This is at risks and the only one risk the government care about.
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July 15, 2019, 10:02:43 PM

You guys are missing the point.  

The real threat is compulsory KYC / AML for crypto providers.

The question is what is a “crypto provider”.  If the Fed tried to make github accounts “crypto providers” then we may have a challenge.

Watch this space.

Mainly it boils down to filling our bags before big brother shit hits the fan. BTFD.

Is anybody truly bothered about KYC?

Bittrex, LBC & Coinbase have my docs. Should I really give a shit?

You might give a shit if the Fed rules Bitcoin Core must incorporate compulsory AML. 

But let’s not give them ideas.

I doubt that you are giving them any ideas that they don't already have, even though there are a lot of crypto ignoramuses in the US govt, I am sure that there are plenty of govt peeps who sufficiently know what bitcoin is too, and likely some of them are already participating in these kinds of bitcoin and crypto threads and perhaps even trying to influence the direction of our discussions to the extent possible... D_eddie?   Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

hahahahaha but more likely jbreher and some of the bcash pumper twats...  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


Anywhooo.... that would be a ballsy move to try to compel AML KYC into code that would be a direct aim at bitcoin, and likely NO compliance, so then what would happen?  A stand off?

I doubt that usa govt wants to be in a position of ordering something that will result in both non compliance and then a direct battle because the  whole bitcoin thingie-ma-jiggie goes underground..

So didn't Steve say that they do not want to impinge on technical innovation, yeah... , and surely attempting to directly compel a certain kind of bitcoin with aml kyc would inhibit bitcoin and cause it to go underground and result in a direct battle, and is that the card that the usa govt would like to play.. ?  Let's see let's see, and I doubt that USA govt would prefer to play such a card at this time.
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July 15, 2019, 10:04:04 PM

Hey Dickhead1661,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Macedonia_under_the_Ottoman_Empire

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kumanovo
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July 15, 2019, 10:06:56 PM

Stop deleting my Posts i am not the kind to obey yes?

Does not matter if you obey or not..

Your days (or hours) are numbered..


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July 15, 2019, 10:14:35 PM

I am sure that there are plenty of govt peeps who sufficiently know what bitcoin is too, and likely some of them are already participating in these kinds of bitcoin and crypto threads and perhaps even trying to influence the direction of our discussions to the extent possible... D_eddie?   Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Shit, I've been outed.
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July 15, 2019, 10:14:48 PM
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Bitcoin is not here to help everyone, although it is a desirable goal.
Realistically, bitcoin is here as a relatively rare "allele" that just might prevent total financial ruin of everyone.
Smart people did the math and realized the eventual fate of pretty much all fiat.
Bitcoin is a great hedge. Unfortunately, stupid FB caused too much of a premature attention to the scene.
Could bitcoin continue to be the hedge? I hope so, but it would probably involve some ups and downs (and more of them).
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July 15, 2019, 10:31:00 PM

... but more likely jbreher ...

What The Fuck -- exactly -- are you insinuating, you yammering diarrhea-mouth?
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July 15, 2019, 10:35:24 PM

... but more likely jbreher ...

What The Fuck -- exactly -- are you insinuating, you yammering diarrhea-mouth?

He was implying that you are a Secret Agent Man

Answer quickly:  how do you like your martinis?
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