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Question: Sept. 21 Closing Price:
$0 - 4 (3.7%)
<$8,000 - 5 (4.6%)
$8,000-$8,500 - 1 (0.9%)
$8,500-$9,000 - 2 (1.9%)
$9,000-$9,500 - 5 (4.6%)
$9,500-$10,000 - 7 (6.5%)
$10,000-$10,500 - 24 (22.2%)
$10,500-$11,000 - 20 (18.5%)
$11,000-$11,500 - 19 (17.6%)
$11,500-$12,000 - 6 (5.6%)
>$12,000 - 8 (7.4%)
>$20,000 - 7 (6.5%)
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July 17, 2019, 12:21:25 PM

With the way things are moving, its anyones guess on which route bitcoin might take and depending on what stimulates the market I foresee BTC taking any one of these routes.



My blockchain based, distributed AI algorithm produced the following graph:



On the left part of the graph is the fit of the model to actual BTC price (this is why there's only one flashy line), while on the right part future price path based on deep learning path probability density (the brighter the more probable):


what do you think?

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July 17, 2019, 12:25:10 PM
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IDK, but even 3rd party open source authentication software like GA isn't 100% safe.
Recently i reactivated an old coinbase account and switched from SMS2FA to GA2FA, but in the long run, i'll switch to a hardware-key based solution.
Maybe my ledger nano can be of some use there, but i don't like to rely on a single device for all crypto-related key storage.
Google authenticator BLOWS, that thing is a piece of shit and you don't have a recovery seed anymore.

I only use GA for 2FA, recovery keys (written down) for restore at the exchange if the (smartphone) device fails.
BTC are transferred to a cold wallet whenever it's more than 0.1 (or 0.01, 0.001 and so on in the future) and for selling small amounts (also future, only maybe)
But i'll sure move on to a better solution.
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July 17, 2019, 12:29:13 PM
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IDK, but even 3rd party open source authentication software like GA isn't 100% safe.
Recently i reactivated an old coinbase account and switched from SMS2FA to GA2FA, but in the long run, i'll switch to a hardware-key based solution.
Maybe my ledger nano can be of some use there, but i don't like to rely on a single device for all crypto-related key storage.
Google authenticator BLOWS, that thing is a piece of shit and you don't have a recovery seed anymore.

I only use GA for 2FA, recovery keys (written down) for restore at the exchange if the (smartphone) device fails.
BTC are transferred to a cold wallet whenever it's more than 0.1 (or 0.01, 0.001 and so on in the future) and for selling small amounts (also future, only maybe)
But i'll sure move on to a better solution.
Yeah you can do backups for 10 times for the one issuer, I guess that's good for a device failing, it's a shitty setup though, I guess it's okay.

Probably better to use a freshly wiped or a fresh cheap phone with only Google Auth on it that stays in a safe place. That's what I'll do and have backups for security.
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July 17, 2019, 12:33:21 PM


fillippone I feel your pain  Cry. Lucky for me I've not lost that much and have made good for the previous losses. Hope the losses were minor based on the money you invested.


Just for the record: this story is NOT MY story, I am no way involved, I just read it on medium.
I wanted to share because when I read I learnt something useful and I think the more read it the better.
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July 17, 2019, 12:38:14 PM


My blockchain based, distributed AI algorithm produced the following graph:



On the left part of the graph is the fit of the model to actual BTC price (this is why there's only one flashy line), while on the right part future price path based on deep learning path probability density (the brighter the more probable):

what do you think?


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July 17, 2019, 12:38:55 PM


Most of the time, I am paid to post, I get messages from the darkweb, then once posted I receive a few sat from a LN chan... not much but always MoAr Smiley.

the rest of the time I select letter in the dictionnary, and I try to make words then sentence with them, that's why my post have no meaning what so ever, they are just pixels on a screen that you give sense too...

only ledger space isn't pixel !!!

I don't get it.  What are you trying to say here?
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July 17, 2019, 12:45:13 PM

Unleash the BULL  Tongue Cool
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July 17, 2019, 12:46:42 PM
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"Even the Chinese with their firewall and their extreme intervention in society could not kill #bitcoin.....
You can't kill bitcoin"

https://twitter.com/MediumSqueeze/status/1151470299327733760

He's the guy Patrick McHenry
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July 17, 2019, 12:54:16 PM

U.S congressman
"Even the Chinese with their firewall and their extreme intervention in society could not kill #bitcoin.....
You can't kill bitcoin"

They start to figure that out. And now they also have a good window of opportunity for buying. Will they use it? Naaaah...
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Unleash the BULL  Tongue Cool

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Bull run END soon take to see $10200  Cheesy
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July 17, 2019, 01:00:03 PM

U.S congressman
"Even the Chinese with their firewall and their extreme intervention in society could not kill #bitcoin.....
You can't kill bitcoin"

They start to figure that out. And now they also have a good window of opportunity for buying. Will they use it? Naaaah...

I'm not sure about that. IMO the USA could kill or at least seriously harm bitcoin. they could make new rules for fiat gateways and sanctions anyone who run these gateways.
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July 17, 2019, 01:04:10 PM

U.S congressman
"Even the Chinese with their firewall and their extreme intervention in society could not kill #bitcoin.....
You can't kill bitcoin"

They start to figure that out. And now they also have a good window of opportunity for buying. Will they use it? Naaaah...

The sane mind will grab any opportunity they get, and those stuck into " G-Old way is the only way" will not.


@vroom i doubt about killing, however they can do some damage for sure but only for limited time. in the end its "adapt or die" situation IMO.
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July 17, 2019, 01:23:17 PM

U.S congressman
"Even the Chinese with their firewall and their extreme intervention in society could not kill #bitcoin.....
You can't kill bitcoin"

They start to figure that out. And now they also have a good window of opportunity for buying. Will they use it? Naaaah...

I'm not sure about that. IMO the USA could kill or at least seriously harm bitcoin. they could make new rules for fiat gateways and sanctions anyone who run these gateways.
The us just had Mnuchin discuss how they have exchanges already in line with the rules, they are pushing to have us exchanges (and global) fall inline with fincet.

That's the opposite of killing it.
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July 17, 2019, 01:39:56 PM
Last edit: July 18, 2019, 07:40:29 AM by wwzsocki
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With the way things are moving, its anyones guess on which route bitcoin might take and depending on what stimulates the market I foresee BTC taking any one of these routes.


Oh boy...  woodie +1 Cheesy

You basically covered all the TA, future predictions and every possibility of price with only one chart. Bravo legend Cheesy next time toxic, wwzsocki or hairy post some chart then post this chart right next to them,  just for fun Tongue

I am a Perma bull and that is why don't want to post bearish short, medium time predictions to not fuel up WO thread heaters  Wink.

There is only one medium time prediction for BTC which is DOWN to the 7800$ price range or even deeper.

We can see some swings, but we are going down and I would start buying back at 7800$ and lower levels if possible.

I am still bullish and think that we will bounce back up from 7000$ levels when this correction ends. But if not and we will be going down deeper, then my long term prediction will finally change to bearish  Cry.

Will update with charts a little later to let you guys better a few of what to expect in next days in my opinion.



I am shorting BTC short, medium-term now. Don't mention alts one should short them all because they just getting slaughtered. When BTC goes up, they go down and when BTC goes down, they also go down  Grin. This is an ideal situation for BTC to get back, to 90% of the market share and to continue the bull run after this corrections.

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July 17, 2019, 01:40:22 PM


IDK, but even 3rd party open source authentication software like GA isn't 100% safe.
Recently i reactivated an old coinbase account and switched from SMS2FA to GA2FA, but in the long run, i'll switch to a hardware-key based solution.
Maybe my ledger nano can be of some use there, but i don't like to rely on a single device for all crypto-related key storage.
Google authenticator BLOWS, that thing is a piece of shit and you don't have a recovery seed anymore.

I only use GA for 2FA, recovery keys (written down) for restore at the exchange if the (smartphone) device fails.
BTC are transferred to a cold wallet whenever it's more than 0.1 (or 0.01, 0.001 and so on in the future) and for selling small amounts (also future, only maybe)
But i'll sure move on to a better solution.
Yeah you can do backups for 10 times for the one issuer, I guess that's good for a device failing, it's a shitty setup though, I guess it's okay.

Probably better to use a freshly wiped or a fresh cheap phone with only Google Auth on it that stays in a safe place. That's what I'll do and have backups for security.
Good idea. I have a spare old smartphone, reset to factory default, that i can use without a sim card. Runs for more than a week in airplane mode, that should do it - without the need for daily recharge. ...but i have to disable/re-enable 2FA on my exchange accounts, that's a bit shitty, since GA won't let me migrate.
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July 17, 2019, 01:42:37 PM

‘I like bitcoin,’ says House GOP leader McCarthy while bashing Facebook’s Libra coin plans

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/07/16/i-like-bitcoin-says-house-gop-leader-mccarthy-hits-facebook-libra.html


and observing the walls.. maaaaybe we have seen a bottom at $9050  Roll Eyes
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July 17, 2019, 01:46:13 PM
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Sorry, but this reminds me too much of the Christmas lights on palm trees #fail.

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July 17, 2019, 01:48:01 PM
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This twitter dude, recently quoted by smartcomet, has some other interesting charts:

https://twitter.com/CL207

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Introducing Marketcap/GoogleTrend ratio.

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Bitcoin is in the stealth phase of its bull run. Usually public interest do not pick up until the previous all-time high has been smashed.

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Expanding pain.

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This meme... Strikes again.. he said 9200 July...

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This could actually be true. Someone pointed out to me that low 9000 is the maximum pain zone for both bulls and bears.

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July 17, 2019, 02:31:00 PM

$20K or above by Christmas 2019, buy now- hodl until H2 2021.
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July 17, 2019, 02:42:55 PM
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Google authenticator BLOWS, that thing is a piece of shit and you don't have a recovery seed anymore.

do you not copy the seed code or the qt code tyhat it initially gives you and keep it in a safe place or places?

i like the fact that the ONLY copy of the seed is in your possession alone and your responsibility to keep safe. as in not your seed code copy alone (as in only you have the only copies and not some cloud based crap), not your 2FA.

ive changed phones (breakage, nothing salvageable) and my paper backups of the google auth codes had me back up and running on the new phone in no time. not to mention there are pc versions of google auth you can use in a time critical situation.
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