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[nutildah]

America is not showing a great deal of diligence with their airport queues.

https://twitter.com/Danai_data/status/1239167060028129280

People are spending 6 hours or more jammed that close together coming back from Europe which I'm led to believe is bringing the 'foreign virus' over due to not being Winners.

Damn, glad I'm not going anywhere. Guess if they didn't shovel everybody in together, people would be stretched out waiting on the tarmac. Hopefully nobody had a cough.

You bring up a good point though. Trump should just tweet that only losers get coronavirus. That would surely stop it.


Perhaps nobody wants to hear it, but I fear we're not out of the woods yet, folks.

3 days ago Chainalysis said that PlusToken wasn't done dumping their BTC. They "only" have about 30k left to go -- we won't know its over until they tell us so. In that blog post (I think its been posted here already) they go over the correlation between PlusToken BTC hitting exchanges and drops in corn prices, seems to be pretty unmistakeable.

To me, I'm surprised they still have some to go, but I see no reason for Chainalysis to lie about this kind of thing as their business depends on them being right.

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[gentlemand]

You bring up a good point though. Trump should just tweet that only losers get coronavirus. That would surely stop it.

More Winning here - https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/mar/15/trump-offers-large-sums-for-exclusive-access-to-coronavirus-vaccine

[strawbs]

I think i know what you mean by arguing against myself.
But i am not really. There is just a very basic problem to decision making.
Most decisions are based on:
1. trying to achieve something
2. trying to avoid something
Very basic, as i said.
When you try to achieve something through actions, you have to closely watch that you don't support developments which finally result in what you tried to avoid. These are many things, most of the time. Good example to this: Trump. He puts actions to achieve MAGA goals, but almost all of them backfire. Why? Because his principles follow method no.1 without respecting method no.2.
That's where economists end epidemiologists would come in handy. The latter can project the spread, while the former are able to evaluate the unwanted outcomes.
Populism goes in the other direction. Assume some more damage.
There is only one thing that is worse than making a decision: Delaying actions and ignoring developments by not making decisions. This is what Italy, Europe and the US did until a week ago. Waiting out. Which will show its fatal consequences soon. The UK is a week or two behind. Optimism did not do anything to solve a problem, ever.

I mostly agree with you, except that UK isn't guilty of not making a decision. It has made a definite decision not to impose enforced isolation now, in the hope of avoiding an unmanageable peak further down the line. I'm not saying it's the right decision. But it might be. Nor is UK a week or two behind, they've chosen a different strategy. Of course that may change, and probably will, more due to political pressure and the need to be seen to be doing something, whether it's effective or not. The media love to jump on alleged inaction.

[2020VISION]

Spain enters official nationwide lockdown.

So does France from midnight.

Looks like everyone is starting to take this shit seriously. Except maybe UK... I donno if it is because they are doing good or ignoring the problem.

The UK is adopting a different strategy than the potentially knee-jerk reactions of others. Slightly simplistic use of props here but the message is accurate: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nl6tTwxzCi8

It may be that only the UK is approaching this rationally. Time will tell.

That would be a great idea if you were playing a computer game where you can control everything people do, and kill anyone who does something unexpected.

It is not possible to control how fast this virus spreads. The only correct choice is to slow it as much as possible while cranking the medical system as high as possible.

5g make it stop!! :\ grrr

[bitserve]

You bring up a good point though. Trump should just tweet that only losers get coronavirus. That would surely stop it.

More Winning here - https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/mar/15/trump-offers-large-sums-for-exclusive-access-to-coronavirus-vaccine

Exclusive access? That's a completely wrong and risky path Trump is following there. He is completely underestimating the amount of LIFETIME-HATE that would generate in pretty much billions of people (or the survivors from that figure) from the rest of world if he really succeed in that.

If I were Russia and all my population were dying because of that I would just push the self-destruction button and call it a day. And any average Russian people are way more crazy than I am (not to mention their psycopath leaders).

I will just assume it is an out-of-context headline.

[gentlemand]

I will just assume it is an out-of-context headline.

Knowing what we know about him and many of the people surrounding him why would you think that?

[nutildah]

You bring up a good point though. Trump should just tweet that only losers get coronavirus. That would surely stop it.

More Winning here - https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/mar/15/trump-offers-large-sums-for-exclusive-access-to-coronavirus-vaccine

Damn, he's really putting our money where his mouth is when it comes to following through with his "America First" message.

Exclusive access? That's a completely wrong and risky path Trump is following there. He is completely underestimating the amount of LIFETIME-HATE that would generate in pretty much billions of people (or the survivors from that figure) from the rest of world if he really succeed in that.

Meh, pretty standard for The Donald, and he could live with that. I don't think he's ever really given two shits about what anybody thinks about him. Hence the clown makeup and incessant foreign policy blunders. Its part of his "charm."

[Ibian]

Any country has the leadership they choose. Power is not taken, it is given.

Even in democracy, we can choose our temporary dictatorship. Like a sheep would choose between knife or stunbolt gun.

Or... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQMbXvn2RNI

[Febo]

People will panic, hospitals will break down, their staff will break down too. China, Italy as role models.

You need to understand that China for like a month had no idea what strike them. They did not had any tests. It was flu season and people that got infected were treated like they have flu. A big part of 3000+ Chines that died died so that the rest of the world had Covid tests weeks in advance than they got the first patient. They had time to prepare. China did extremely well! Of course them being second biggest economy helped them tremendously.

[OutOfMemory]

I think i know what you mean by arguing against myself.
But i am not really. There is just a very basic problem to decision making.
Most decisions are based on:
1. trying to achieve something
2. trying to avoid something
Very basic, as i said.
When you try to achieve something through actions, you have to closely watch that you don't support developments which finally result in what you tried to avoid. These are many things, most of the time. Good example to this: Trump. He puts actions to achieve MAGA goals, but almost all of them backfire. Why? Because his principles follow method no.1 without respecting method no.2.
That's where economists end epidemiologists would come in handy. The latter can project the spread, while the former are able to evaluate the unwanted outcomes.
Populism goes in the other direction. Assume some more damage.
There is only one thing that is worse than making a decision: Delaying actions and ignoring developments by not making decisions. This is what Italy, Europe and the US did until a week ago. Waiting out. Which will show its fatal consequences soon. The UK is a week or two behind. Optimism did not do anything to solve a problem, ever.

I mostly agree with you, except that UK isn't guilty of not making a decision. It has made a definite decision not to impose enforced isolation now, in the hope of avoiding an unmanageable peak further down the line. I'm not saying it's the right decision. But it might be. Nor is UK a week or two behind, they've chosen a different strategy. Of course that may change, and probably will, more due to political pressure and the need to be seen to be doing something, whether it's effective or not. The media love to jump on alleged inaction.

They way our media presents it, the UK minister of health is waiting out, refusing to cancel events with a lot of people.
By a week behind, i was thinking in numbers/covid-charts compared to Italy over time.
So it seems i fell victim of the media. My wishing well a few posts before was honest, no irony there, btw.

[OutOfMemory]

People will panic, hospitals will break down, their staff will break down too. China, Italy as role models.

You need to understand that China for like a month had no idea what strike them. They did not had any tests. It was flu season and people that got infected were treated like they have flu. A big part of 3000+ Chines that died died so that the rest of the world had Covid tests weeks in advance than they got the first patient. They had time to prepare. China did extremely well! Of course them being second biggest economy helped them tremendously.

Yes, China definitely is the "good" role model of the two. Sorry for not being clear enough.
Taking a break of posting, body and mind are dragging me to sleep.
l8er, hodlerbros

[jojo69]

[asUHWEceyc]

are yellow vests still protesting?
do honkeys still riot?
sheep, easily TPed

[Globb0]

China was greatest economy

they showed us usa and other pigs what to do

is very good  ran out of dissidents locked down the virus deaths

[Hueristic]

Jesus Christ I need a @JSRAW cheat sheet update, this shit is ridiculous.

Didn't anyone run out and get their TP instead of posting??

Is Mindrust still spazzing out?
Brad didn't crack this time did he?
Is Lambie still changing data to make his predictions true?
Is Toxic Tourque back for good or just for the show?
Are cats and dogs getting married?
Did Infrofront eat his dick delete the thread?

[Phil_S]

America is not showing a great deal of diligence with their airport queues.

https://twitter.com/Danai_data/status/1239167060028129280

People are spending 6 hours or more jammed that close together coming back from Europe which I'm led to believe is bringing the 'foreign virus' over due to not being Winners.

Damn, glad I'm not going anywhere. Guess if they didn't shovel everybody in together, people would be stretched out waiting on the tarmac. Hopefully nobody had a cough.

Standing for 6 hours like that is pure torture. And I heard breathing is enough to spread it. Ever without a cough.

[Torque]

Ok guys, that's it. I'm done with the WO for a few months.

There's enough overblown lunacy in the MSM over this coronavirus, I don't need to come here and read the same panicky bullshit (it's the fkn flu guys).

I'll probably log back in sometime in May or June when this whole thing has blown over.

And when it has, I'll surely raz the shit out of some of you hypochondriacs daily when I come back (you know who you are...the ones predicting hundreds of thousands or millions of people dead).

[Hueristic]

Ok guys, that's it. I'm done with the WO for a few months.

There's enough overblown lunacy in the MSM over this coronavirus, I don't need to come here and read the same panicky bullshit (it's the fkn flu guys).

I'll probably log back in sometime in May or June when this whole thing has blown over.

And when it has, I'll surely raz the shit out of some of you hypochondriacs daily when I come back (you know who you are).

^^^--- Fixed my post for you, W00ps.

[Ibian]

Ok guys, that's it. I'm done with the WO for a few months.

There's enough overblown lunacy in the MSM over this coronavirus, I don't need to come here and read the same panicky bullshit (it's the fkn flu guys).

I'll probably log back in sometime in May or June when this whole thing has blown over.

And when it has, I'll surely raz the shit out of some of you hypochondriacs daily when I come back (you know who you are).

But then who will tell us that it's just the flu bro?

Maybe good timing tho. Let's see how the absolute numbers compare when you come back.

[Torque]

Ok guys, that's it. I'm done with the WO for a few months.

There's enough overblown lunacy in the MSM over this coronavirus, I don't need to come here and read the same panicky bullshit (it's the fkn flu guys).

I'll probably log back in sometime in May or June when this whole thing has blown over.

And when it has, I'll surely raz the shit out of some of you hypochondriacs daily when I come back (you know who you are).

But then who will tell us that it's just the flu bro?

Maybe good timing tho. Let's see how the absolute numbers compare when you come back.

You're the first one I'll be razzing.

Remember how you spent a few years arguing about the Bitcoin blocksize urgently needed to be raised? Remember that? You were DEAD wrong, Ibian.