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March 24, 2020, 04:30:48 PM

When I see the last corona infections.... It will be EU that has to close flight for US citizens .....
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March 24, 2020, 04:42:42 PM

Nobody's working, stocks are up 6-8%.

Makes no sense.

I'm still working. You're welcome.

Yep, me too.
Home office was never this hard since the kids are also at home 24/7.
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March 24, 2020, 04:51:31 PM
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Digital dollars? wtf is that nonsense why bother god you repltilian assholes or is that fucking racist too

edit sauce coindesk

https://www.coindesk.com/house-stimulus-bills-envision-digital-dollar-to-ease-coronavirus-recession

This is a bigger deal than anyone realizes. This is not a liability for the federal government. They are saying it's a liability for the Federal Reserve (not the government). This is creating money out of thin air and distributing it to people. It is not backed by anything.

Unlike QE, where they are buying assets and putting them on the fed balance sheet, you can't sell this to anyone in the future. Unlike anything else the fed has ever done, this is purely inflationary. This is the beginning of the hyperinflation of the USD. The birth of the Fed Coin.

Not to be outdone, look for this from every central bank in the near future. Fed coins airdropped around the world hyper-inflating everything into oblivion. Trillions of debt won't seem so bad when a loaf of bread is $1000.

They pulled this part from the bill but showed their hand.

Basically every Fed Reserve bank would be a node, everyone has a dollar wallet tied to their identity (either through their bank or verified ID at the post office).

Anonymity would be gone. Every transaction traced (though people already do that with their credit cards).

The plus side would be the fact that this could allow for decentralized bitcoin exchanges. Convert your bitcoins seamlessly once you get paid in digital dollars. When you go to pay for something, seamlessly convert back to dollars at the point of sale.

Until merchants allow for both (since they'll have the hardware for it already).
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I'm still going to the office.  Smiley
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I'm feeling a bit nervous about having my bitcoins on the exchange right now. If they suddenly "lose" everyone's bitcoins...what would anyone really care? Everyone has enough problems than to worry about a bunch of rich folks losing money.

I am also a bit gun shy on many cold storage systems I have used. I barely got out of Thailand with my bitcoins intact.

Keeping anything physical requires thinking of different scenarios. Bugging out I can carry it with me. What if I'm arrested for tyranny reasons and they confiscate my home again? Centralized servers don't seem very secure at this point (encrypting it and putting it on AWS, etc.). There's a brain wallet but many of those were hacked due to humans not being as crafty as they think. I had troubles with my trezor in Thailand, I had the trezor but the backup codes were on the seastead. That's part of it, you need backups but what to do with the backups?

I get pretty extreme when doing cold storage for extra security. Last time I bought a cheap computer to create the private keys, then put them into my cryptosteel in an order that only I knew, then I destroyed the computer with a hammer and burned the parts in a fire. Fortunately I had a backup that I split among family members because all of my cryptosteel was on the seastead.

Coming up with a new cold storage solution is not simple when you don't trust that your home won't be over-run. If I was thrown in jail I'd like the peace of mind that every day I'm in there I'm getting richer and richer and nobody can steal my bitcoins while I'm in there.

Would you be able to remember several random words like
peasant
cultivate
specimen
articulate
if you record just the first letter, or the first two letters, of each word?  Like this
pe cu sp ar
If so, then you have some entropy to get you started on constructing a seed.  Entropy that you can retrieve using an abbreviated mnemonic as above.
Next, you add enough salt to protect you from rainbow table attacks while lengthening the string to protect from brute force attacks.
For example, you could use your social security number and your mother's maiden name
So the reminder string becomes
pe cu sp ar ss mmn
So that you have a string with four words and a number, followed by a fifth word, and you can store just the abbreviated string.
It is highly unlikely that any thief who gets hold of your file will be able to reconstruct the string from the abbreviations, so storing it
becomes much less of a security concern.  You might even email it to yourself.
Now we probaby have enough bits to work with.  But add more words or salt if you see fit.
The next step is to create a private key or seed from your (entropy + salt) string.
Do a sha256 hash of the full string.  This will give you a 256 bit hex string (64 characters).
And that hex can be the input for a tool like
https://bip32jp.github.io/english/
or you can use Ian Coleman's mnemonic code converter
https://iancoleman.io/bip39/
and click "show entropy details" to put in your own entropy.
Now you have a seed.  But you don't need to remember the seed.
If you can reconstruct the string that was the entropy source, you can reconstruct the seed.
For me, it's easier to remember something that I came up with on my own, aided by a mnemonic shorthand like
pe cu sp ar ss mmn
than it is to remember a 12 word HD seed, for example.
But your mileage may vary; everybody's brain works different.


Notes  
the output of the hash command depends on the syntax.
I always type it like this:
echo -n 'passphrase' | sha256sum
For example,
Code:
a@galliumos:~$ echo -n 'correct horse battery staple' | sha256sum
c4bbcb1fbec99d65bf59d85c8cb62ee2db963f0fe106f483d9afa73bd4e39a8a  -
Do the following:
Use the first 32 hex chars (128 bits) of the hash as custom entropy input for one of the generators linked above
and you will get 12 words that you can use to create or restore a bip39 HD wallet.
If you don't want to use the command line to do the hash, you can hash the string by typing it into http://brain.evilbs.com/, which calls the produced hash the "secret exponent."  The output will be the same as that produced by the command line syntax specified above.
Warning:  if you use the command line, your .bash_history file will record the command, with the word string as you typed it,
so make sure to erase that line from the file.
Also, you obviously don't want to do this sort of thing on a website.  If you use one of the generators or the brainwallet site,
download the page and run it offline.
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March 24, 2020, 05:10:29 PM

Nobody's working, stocks are up 6-8%.

Makes no sense.

the ((money)) is now finished with the bribes and such and they know where the fixes are in. perfect bullish for stocks.
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March 24, 2020, 05:16:14 PM

Nobody's working, stocks are up 6-8%.

Makes no sense.

I'm still working. You're welcome.

Yep, me too.
Home office was never this hard since the kids are also at home 24/7.

As we qualify for an essential service business, I'm still working, albeit I volunteered for 2nd shift.(with added pay differential)
Myself and one other dude have whole building to ourselves.
Plenty of hand sanitizer and ass wipes. Plus I can work on some home projects undisturbed if I get bored and run out of work.
Bitcoin rounds anyone?  lol
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March 24, 2020, 05:18:25 PM

If everything has gone to hell the one thing people wont have is loads of spare money

But that's the point of bear markets and market bottoms.

The whales back up the truck and accumulate at the bottom of a market at precisely the time when retail investors don't have any spare money to do the same.
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March 24, 2020, 05:26:24 PM

I had troubles with my trezor in Thailand, I had the trezor but the backup codes were on the seastead. That's part of it, you need backups but what to do with the backups?

Fortunately I had a backup that I split among family members because all of my cryptosteel was on the seastead.


Elwar, are you talking about your seed key still on the seastead? If so, what happened to it? If the seastead has been confiscated by authorities, I hope you moved your coins to a new trezor.
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March 24, 2020, 05:52:29 PM
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Nobody's working, stocks are up 6-8%.

Makes no sense.

Dead cat bounce. That cat don't even bounce all that well.

The stock market crash and subsequent unraveling of the financial system will take time. Stock exchanges are closed for most of the day and closed completely over the weekend. They just force-stop trading after each 7% crash. FED is pumping trillions of made-up money into the black hole which has formed. Sods dependent on the status quo are in denial. What a laughably outdated system.

Meanwhile Bitcoin did its panic-induced crash in 24 hours. No circuit breakers, no made-up liquidity, no propping up of confidence by mainstream media. Honey badger don't give a shit. Already stabilized and ready to move up (or down - who the fuck knows).

Many lessons will be learned about our financial system when we come out on the other side of this crisis. One of them will be how far superior Bitcoin is to the legacy financial system.
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March 24, 2020, 05:59:30 PM

This guy again...
https://cointelegraph.com/news/only-fools-are-choosing-bitcoin-says-gold-bug-peter-schiff
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...Schiff often attempts to convince his followers that Bitcoin is not a worthy investment. On March 10, Bitcoin surged to $8,150 before encountering resistance and being pushed back to $7,730 while most of the market was in a freefall. Shiff at the time ignored the fact and said:

    “Bitcoin is no longer a non-correlated asset. It's positively correlated to risk assets like equities, and negatively correlated to safe-haven assets like gold. When risk assets go down, Bitcoin goes down more. But when risk assets go up, Bitcoin goes up less. No value in that!”

As of press time, Bitcoin is 6% up on the day as Wall Street opened in the green.
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March 24, 2020, 06:08:30 PM

Quote from: dick
Get over it, crypto-fanatics and blockchain groupies. Yes, the Bitcoin technology is an impressive achievement, and highly useful to the criminal class. But it makes any real-world currency problem you can think of worse, and completely ignores the patent reality, which is that the wonderful “future” of a national digital currency is something we have today – the US dollar!

Don't be a dick.
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March 24, 2020, 06:28:35 PM

Peter’s father would be so disappointed.
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March 24, 2020, 07:19:42 PM

Hey fellas.



WTF did i say one or two days ago?!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5220206.msg54081157#msg54081157

I reckon the kryptonian comes out with a new spam account and claims to be the orchestrator of said hacker group.
Then we transfer 100 bitcoin to his wallet and he will make Covid stop with the secret, integrated killswitch.  Roll Eyes
For another 100, he/they will make bitcoin moon within two weeks. certainly...

EDIT: It was a strong feeling, SOMA. I'm in no way related whatsoever to this guy (or self proclaimed group, iirc).
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I had troubles with my trezor in Thailand, I had the trezor but the backup codes were on the seastead. That's part of it, you need backups but what to do with the backups?

Fortunately I had a backup that I split among family members because all of my cryptosteel was on the seastead.


Elwar, are you talking about your seed key still on the seastead? If so, what happened to it? If the seastead has been confiscated by authorities, I hope you moved your coins to a new trezor.

Correct. Seed was on there. They had about 2 weeks to figure out what that piece of paper with a bunch of random words was for.

Fortunately I got all of my BTC off of it.
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March 24, 2020, 07:32:05 PM
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The silver spot price is incredibly tempting.
Bitcoin is still massively under priced.
Bitcoin may have more possible short term dips
Bitcoin should have larger long term returns
I want a little more gold. I do not have any amount that would be noticed in your pocket.

Loading my wallet up to admire my 1+ bitcoin never gets old. Grin
I think we are in for a huge rise in many assets. Eventually, surely, all of these cash injections must find their way to these assets? Or am I wrong about this assumption? I didn't study economics or anything else really at school.  
The bitcoin price increase is going to be huge since it is capped at 21m and new supply rate is going to be halved.
Will bitcoin hit 60k before silver hits 150 dollars ?
It seems very likely it will so even considering the gold silver ratio and huge drop in silver. I expect bitcoin is still the way to go?
In a shtf scenario silver may be better than both as I think producing a gold eagle would get you in trouble.
Cash or fiat for now is still the most convenient and useful.
Are most keeping cash in hand right now or still stacking bitcoin silver gold or alts? Stocks?

Would the price of bitcoin rise or fall if btc went pos like eth is planning?
Will covid blow over in 6 to 18 months? This could be important




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March 24, 2020, 07:37:47 PM

Nobody's working, stocks are up 6-8%.

Makes no sense.

Dead cat bounce. That cat don't even bounce all that well.

The stock market crash and subsequent unraveling of the financial system will take time. Stock exchanges are closed for most of the day and closed completely over the weekend. They just force-stop trading after each 7% crash. FED is pumping trillions of made-up money into the black hole which has formed. Sods dependent on the status quo are in denial. What a laughably outdated system.

Meanwhile Bitcoin did its panic-induced crash in 24 hours. No circuit breakers, no made-up liquidity, no propping up of confidence by mainstream media. Honey badger don't give a shit. Already stabilized and ready to move up (or down - who the fuck knows).

Many lessons will be learned about our financial system when we come out on the other side of this crisis. One of them will be how far superior Bitcoin is to the legacy financial system.

Trumps has now made his position clear , Oh dear  Shocked https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/03/donald-trump-coronavirus-deaths-vs-economy
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Everything is fine....
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March 24, 2020, 07:45:32 PM

I didn't study economics or anything else really at school.  

So which brokerage house do you work for? LOL, just kidding.

I remember the silver jump in the 70's, invested basically at the high then with some mercury dimes, I think for the princely sum of about $80 USD. Still have the dimes, they are cool to look at but not worth much. Silver as a play has never seemed to work out the few times I've watched and considered it.
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March 24, 2020, 07:47:05 PM

This equities bear market is FAR from over. Not enough despair yet. It'll be fun watching all the bull traps on the way down.

They've got a least another -20% to go. I predict bottom of the stock market sometime around Jan 2021.
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