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March 24, 2020, 02:55:47 PM

China continues to be at the forefront of converting the human race into the Borg...
https://cointelegraph.com/news/alipay-patents-reveal-more-details-about-chinas-forthcoming-cbdc
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On Feb. 25, Alipay published a patent detailing “a method and device for controlling digital currency accounts.”

The regulator will provide a control device installed at the operating agency, with which supervisors can restrict suspected accounts within predefined rules. This will allow the supervisors to circumvent the need to go through the operator, allowing immediate restriction.
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March 24, 2020, 02:58:00 PM

Good morning Bitcoinland.

Still creeping up after yesterday's gains... currently $6720USD/$9760CAD (Bitcoinaverage).

We still have a week left in Mic's contest. Should be interesting.

Go Bitcoin go.

Indeed i'm curious ...
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March 24, 2020, 03:00:34 PM

Hey fellas.


Erm.. Umm… i came to say that i am sorry for my actions and Words at the time being delt. I know the times now are rough & scary so i just wanted to say sorry to everyone i might of offended or hurt.

It is a true honor to learn & share the same dream with the most Refined Community i could of been a part of.. even if just for a short time. =)



Love you guys

Never use an alt account, make excuses in your own name, always the best

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March 24, 2020, 03:01:37 PM

5000ea stimulus distributed through new FEDCOIN

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CUT YOUR LOOSE!!1
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March 24, 2020, 03:18:47 PM

This just boggles my mind, how much farther can the can be kicked down the road?
https://cointelegraph.com/news/bitcoin-price-gains-7-in-24-hours-as-wall-street-bets-on-2t-bailout
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...compensating losses in the form of “unlimited” money printing is causing alarm bells to ring for some.

Commenting on the Federal Reserve’s liquidity drive, Wall Street veteran Caitlin Long argued that “the last vestige of capitalism died in the U.S.”

“Fed's monetization US debt is now unlimited,” she tweeted on Monday.
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March 24, 2020, 03:37:16 PM

Nobody's working, stocks are up 6-8%.

Makes no sense.
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... another bottleneck exposed in modern society by the virus, just-in-time funeral services.

I bet Silicon Valley can come up with a funeral home share app for that, with surge pricing to cater for unexpected demand too.

Out of curiosity, how would a non just in time funeral home work? Would they have bodies on stock in case deliverys run out?

should be doable if dead bodies are fungible.
If a dead body has fungus growing on it, does that mean the dead body's fungible?
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March 24, 2020, 03:44:28 PM
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Nobody's working, stocks are up 6-8%.

Makes no sense.

I'm still working. You're welcome.
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March 24, 2020, 03:47:44 PM
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Nobody's working, stocks are up 6-8%.

Makes no sense.
All market manipulation.

Oh how the tables have turned so suddenly. Tongue

U.S congress want a US digital dollar so they are wanting to copy bitcoin all the sudden? Roll Eyes
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonbrett/2020/03/23/new-coronavirus-stimulus-bill-introduces-digital-dollar-and-digital-dollar-wallets/

Yet it is making it so good ol' BTC is the winner here! Wink
https://www.forbes.com/sites/billybambrough/2020/03/24/shock-us-digital-dollar-proposals-set-bitcoin-and-crypto-prices-alight/#53497ff7318e
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March 24, 2020, 03:49:27 PM
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Nobody's working, stocks are up 6-8%.

Makes no sense.


Stocks are not up, the dollar is down.

(and the stock market never reflects the current state of the economy, it is pricing future growth potential)
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March 24, 2020, 03:56:30 PM

India Population 1,376,361,512

PM Narendra Modi announces 21-day nationwide lockdown to combat coronavirus In his second address to the nation on the pandemic,
Modi said the decision will have an economic cost but saving people's lives is of paramount interest to his government.


https://www.newindianexpress.com/nation/2020/mar/24/pm-narendra-modi-announces-21-day-nationwide-lockdown-to-combat-coronavirus-2121056.html

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March 24, 2020, 04:01:48 PM

Looks like they stripped the digital dollar from the coronavirus bill but it's being reintroduced as standalone legislation...
https://cointelegraph.com/news/in-us-covid-19-stimulus-bill-hope-not-lost-for-digital-dollar
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...the bill said it would “Allow everyone to set up a digital dollar wallet, called a ‘FedAccount,’ a free bank account that can be used to receive money, make payments, and take out cash.” These FedAccounts would be accessible at local banks and post officer.
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March 24, 2020, 04:20:15 PM

Looks like they stripped the digital dollar from the coronavirus bill but it's being reintroduced as standalone legislation...
https://cointelegraph.com/news/in-us-covid-19-stimulus-bill-hope-not-lost-for-digital-dollar
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...the bill said it would “Allow everyone to set up a digital dollar wallet, called a ‘FedAccount,’ a free bank account that can be used to receive money, make payments, and take out cash.” These FedAccounts would be accessible at local banks and post officer.
Yeah, they were going to send everyones stimilus money to these wallets but now it is starting to look like a way so to have them register for a Fedaccount so they can tax it to nothing. Roll Eyes
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March 24, 2020, 04:22:31 PM

Looks like they stripped the digital dollar from the coronavirus bill but it's being reintroduced as standalone legislation...
https://cointelegraph.com/news/in-us-covid-19-stimulus-bill-hope-not-lost-for-digital-dollar
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...the bill said it would “Allow everyone to set up a digital dollar wallet, called a ‘FedAccount,’ a free bank account that can be used to receive money, make payments, and take out cash.” These FedAccounts would be accessible at local banks and post officer.
Yeah, they were going to send everyones stimilus money to these wallets but now it is starting to look like a way so to have them register for a Fedaccount so they can tax it to nothing. Roll Eyes

What are the odds they'll allow the Fedaccount to send/receive money from crypto exchanges? I'm guessing slim to none. Cheesy
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March 24, 2020, 04:30:48 PM

When I see the last corona infections.... It will be EU that has to close flight for US citizens .....
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March 24, 2020, 04:42:42 PM

Nobody's working, stocks are up 6-8%.

Makes no sense.

I'm still working. You're welcome.

Yep, me too.
Home office was never this hard since the kids are also at home 24/7.
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March 24, 2020, 04:51:31 PM
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Digital dollars? wtf is that nonsense why bother god you repltilian assholes or is that fucking racist too

edit sauce coindesk

https://www.coindesk.com/house-stimulus-bills-envision-digital-dollar-to-ease-coronavirus-recession

This is a bigger deal than anyone realizes. This is not a liability for the federal government. They are saying it's a liability for the Federal Reserve (not the government). This is creating money out of thin air and distributing it to people. It is not backed by anything.

Unlike QE, where they are buying assets and putting them on the fed balance sheet, you can't sell this to anyone in the future. Unlike anything else the fed has ever done, this is purely inflationary. This is the beginning of the hyperinflation of the USD. The birth of the Fed Coin.

Not to be outdone, look for this from every central bank in the near future. Fed coins airdropped around the world hyper-inflating everything into oblivion. Trillions of debt won't seem so bad when a loaf of bread is $1000.

They pulled this part from the bill but showed their hand.

Basically every Fed Reserve bank would be a node, everyone has a dollar wallet tied to their identity (either through their bank or verified ID at the post office).

Anonymity would be gone. Every transaction traced (though people already do that with their credit cards).

The plus side would be the fact that this could allow for decentralized bitcoin exchanges. Convert your bitcoins seamlessly once you get paid in digital dollars. When you go to pay for something, seamlessly convert back to dollars at the point of sale.

Until merchants allow for both (since they'll have the hardware for it already).
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I'm still going to the office.  Smiley
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I'm feeling a bit nervous about having my bitcoins on the exchange right now. If they suddenly "lose" everyone's bitcoins...what would anyone really care? Everyone has enough problems than to worry about a bunch of rich folks losing money.

I am also a bit gun shy on many cold storage systems I have used. I barely got out of Thailand with my bitcoins intact.

Keeping anything physical requires thinking of different scenarios. Bugging out I can carry it with me. What if I'm arrested for tyranny reasons and they confiscate my home again? Centralized servers don't seem very secure at this point (encrypting it and putting it on AWS, etc.). There's a brain wallet but many of those were hacked due to humans not being as crafty as they think. I had troubles with my trezor in Thailand, I had the trezor but the backup codes were on the seastead. That's part of it, you need backups but what to do with the backups?

I get pretty extreme when doing cold storage for extra security. Last time I bought a cheap computer to create the private keys, then put them into my cryptosteel in an order that only I knew, then I destroyed the computer with a hammer and burned the parts in a fire. Fortunately I had a backup that I split among family members because all of my cryptosteel was on the seastead.

Coming up with a new cold storage solution is not simple when you don't trust that your home won't be over-run. If I was thrown in jail I'd like the peace of mind that every day I'm in there I'm getting richer and richer and nobody can steal my bitcoins while I'm in there.

Would you be able to remember several random words like
peasant
cultivate
specimen
articulate
if you record just the first letter, or the first two letters, of each word?  Like this
pe cu sp ar
If so, then you have some entropy to get you started on constructing a seed.  Entropy that you can retrieve using an abbreviated mnemonic as above.
Next, you add enough salt to protect you from rainbow table attacks while lengthening the string to protect from brute force attacks.
For example, you could use your social security number and your mother's maiden name
So the reminder string becomes
pe cu sp ar ss mmn
So that you have a string with four words and a number, followed by a fifth word, and you can store just the abbreviated string.
It is highly unlikely that any thief who gets hold of your file will be able to reconstruct the string from the abbreviations, so storing it
becomes much less of a security concern.  You might even email it to yourself.
Now we probaby have enough bits to work with.  But add more words or salt if you see fit.
The next step is to create a private key or seed from your (entropy + salt) string.
Do a sha256 hash of the full string.  This will give you a 256 bit hex string (64 characters).
And that hex can be the input for a tool like
https://bip32jp.github.io/english/
or you can use Ian Coleman's mnemonic code converter
https://iancoleman.io/bip39/
and click "show entropy details" to put in your own entropy.
Now you have a seed.  But you don't need to remember the seed.
If you can reconstruct the string that was the entropy source, you can reconstruct the seed.
For me, it's easier to remember something that I came up with on my own, aided by a mnemonic shorthand like
pe cu sp ar ss mmn
than it is to remember a 12 word HD seed, for example.
But your mileage may vary; everybody's brain works different.


Notes  
the output of the hash command depends on the syntax.
I always type it like this:
echo -n 'passphrase' | sha256sum
For example,
Code:
a@galliumos:~$ echo -n 'correct horse battery staple' | sha256sum
c4bbcb1fbec99d65bf59d85c8cb62ee2db963f0fe106f483d9afa73bd4e39a8a  -
Do the following:
Use the first 32 hex chars (128 bits) of the hash as custom entropy input for one of the generators linked above
and you will get 12 words that you can use to create or restore a bip39 HD wallet.
If you don't want to use the command line to do the hash, you can hash the string by typing it into http://brain.evilbs.com/, which calls the produced hash the "secret exponent."  The output will be the same as that produced by the command line syntax specified above.
Warning:  if you use the command line, your .bash_history file will record the command, with the word string as you typed it,
so make sure to erase that line from the file.
Also, you obviously don't want to do this sort of thing on a website.  If you use one of the generators or the brainwallet site,
download the page and run it offline.
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March 24, 2020, 05:10:29 PM

Nobody's working, stocks are up 6-8%.

Makes no sense.

the ((money)) is now finished with the bribes and such and they know where the fixes are in. perfect bullish for stocks.
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