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[ChartBuddy]

Explanation

[joburgtaxi]

How I feel about BTC at the moment

[NewLiberty]

UK only  but the guy has a load of other vids Thanks.

VPN bro. Its worth a watch.

Seriosly, fuck this geofencing shit! Why do I need to bother with proxies and shit? I hope those media companies die in a fire. Fuck! Even if I lived there, I would not see any of their adverts, because that shit is blocked. Not cool, man.

Its the BBC, so there arent any ad's, thats kinda the point - the brits pay tv tax for it, so why should anyone else get to watch it for free who hasnt paid?  (thats the govt sentiment, not mine -before you shoot me down!)

So the taxpayers get to pay more tax to afford the extra development so that they can stop everyone else from watching what's already been paid for... Genius!

Is the UK government position that if it is made and advertised in the UK it is worthless elsewhere?  Why wouldn't they export their media and let non UK folks pay (either with ads or whatever) they don't like exporting?

Governments are so silly sometimes.

[joburgtaxi]

How I feel about BTC at the moment

And the speculation forum is about the same !!!!!!

[kurious]

UK only   but the guy has a load of other vids Thanks.

VPN bro. Its worth a watch.

Seriosly, fuck this geofencing shit! Why do I need to bother with proxies and shit? I hope those media companies die in a fire. Fuck! Even if I lived there, I would not see any of their adverts, because that shit is blocked. Not cool, man.

Its the BBC, so there arent any ad's, thats kinda the point - the brits pay tv tax for it, so why should anyone else get to watch it for free who hasnt paid?  (thats the govt sentiment, not mine -before you shoot me down!)

So the taxpayers get to pay more tax to afford the extra development so that they can stop everyone else from watching what's already been paid for... Genius!

Is the UK government position that if it is made and advertised in the UK it is worthless elsewhere?  Why wouldn't they export their media and let non UK folks pay (either with ads or whatever) they don't like exporting?

Governments are so silly sometimes.

It's not that.

The BBC licenses programmes (and their contents) for UK only for domestic programmes. If they were to release them worldwide, they would have to pay more to the parties involved for a worldwide license - which is not justified for a show intended for domestic use only.

The BBC does have stuff it makes for worldwide exposure - and sells it.  

However, it makes no sense to pay more for worldwide rights clearance for stuff that has no real market outside the UK (even if it turns out to be very good).

One more thing:  the BBC makes these decisions, not the UK govenrnment.

This all makes perfect sense if you know enough about what is going on.

[Richy_T]

[snip]

Fundamentally, the internet removes the need for a person to conduct business (work, commerce) at the same location as their physical presence. The only reason this hasn't changed things in a fundamental way is that the old fogeys who want us to have a physical presence in the office where they can keep a beady eye on us need to die off.

[joburgtaxi]

BBC, Licence, Adverts, Government

[kurious]

[snip]

Fundamentally, the internet removes the need for a person to conduct business (work, commerce) at the same location as their physical presence. The only reason this hasn't changed things in a fundamental way is that the old fogeys who want us to have a physical presence in the office where they can keep a beady eye on us need to die off.

This is very true - I am at home now, as are many of my staff who work from anywhere in the world in many different time zones.

With the internet, my small local business has now become (effectively) global and indeed my own small company sells on most continents via digital delivery.

I do have an office, but it is only as a base for occasional face to face meetings with permanent staff - I could not fit more than a few people in though.

The business model was unthinkable not so long ago and it is very much revolutionary.  Any and every company's market (and every employee) is now able to sell their labour or goods worldwide - if they have some basic skills to use the fantastic opportunities available through simply having access to the internet.

[ChartBuddy]

Explanation

[roslinpl]

In Poland due to hackers attack on Bitcurex.pl (6 hours ago) we had a wall with a price ~1400$ for 20 min


screen from: http://niebezpiecznik.pl/post/bitcurex-polska-gielda-btc-zhackowana/

[Richy_T]

It's like you guys can't even hear yourselves talk. You keep saying, "In this world that I imagine in my head, if things had worked out differently and the US would have developed flying cars before cobblestone, you would easily see what a waste of money roads are. Imagine where else we could have spent money if we didn't have roads!"

If you put words in other peoples mouths rather than attempt to understand what they are actually saying, that is known as a strawman argument and is a well-known fallacy.

[cbutters]

Seems 630 was successfully defended.... hopefully it starts floating upward.

[686f646c]

Last year everyone in the mainstream was claiming bitcoins is play money and wont work, now almost everyone agrees crypto currency is here to stay it's just not bitcoin, it will be some Corporation or government coin. Lets entertain that thought.. for example googlecoin comes out today, what incentive would apple/amazon/any competitor have to adopt this coin and give google the monopoly. Same for any country, why would china use USAcoin?

Looking this chart from goldman, I’m sure someone is going to try this, the question is why would the world adopt it, it can't be trust in the institution

https://i.imgur.com/yV9tjh9.jpg

[Richy_T]

To expand more on the roads thing with a specific example: I work in a place called Cool Springs which is a rapidly growing (yay low taxes) area in middle-Tennessee. It has grown so quickly that the road structure is struggling. This year, Tennessee will spend billions of taxpayers money to upgrade the road structure to accommodate those people (including me). In the meantime, tens of thousands of people are spending a significant chunk of time sitting in traffic everyday leading to untold loss of productivity and/or leisure time and burning significant fuel doing nothing.

And yet... the growth in this area is mostly white-collar. The huge proportion of these people could probably work from home (something you would understand, Keyser). Vast amounts of time and resources could be saved. Yet there is no incentive to do so because those taxes are going to be taken and the roads built regardless. If it was laid out in front of people as a straight choice, maybe things would work out differently. Of course, maybe they wouldn't. But that's kind of the point, to let the market decide. Who knows, maybe we'd even have more roads, better roads. Maybe if you wanted to head to New York from here (or wherever you are) and you had a sufficiently equipped vehicle, you could hop on a 180mph toll road and be there in no time. The point is that the one-size-fits-all of government action leads to inefficient solutions.

[Richy_T]

The poor are better off under system B but I suspect this is unacceptable to you because helping the poor is less important to you than forcing everyone to conform to your values.

It's like the kid who when given a treat is upset because their sibling got a bigger treat. People need to look to themselves, not others. It's the "If I can't have you, nobody can" mentality.

[seleme]

I know a guy, who knows a guy whose sister made a sandwich today... very bullish...

Reading this thread is like watching this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lutNECOZFw

wtf.. you actually posted that you got butthurt by my post?!

Oh, yeah, it's me who is butthurt here 

[seleme]

March bubble compared with November one 

[Richy_T]

It is not about the suffering and trauma; those were terrible but died with the people who lived through it.

WWII radically changed the structure of society all over the world, even in countries that were not involved in the war and were far from its many battlefields.  Western Europe and Japan were "Americanized" in almost every aspect of life, government and economy, while Eastern Europe became communist.  Societies on both sides became more egalitarian and mobile, the nobility lost most of its remaining properties and privileges, people became more conscious of their rights, and so on.  The maps of Europoe, the Middle East and large parts of Africa were re-drawn.  NATO was born in WWII.  Reaction to the trauma of war paved the way for what seemed absolutely impossible before, the opening of frontiers in Europe, the unification of its economy.  English became the default second laguage for most of the world.  It was WWII that created the bloated US military-industrial complex.  And much, much more...

 (And I suppose you call it "localized" because it involved only six of the seven continents.  )

WWII was significant and it will continue to echo for a long time to come but it was not really fundamental change and will fade with time. Technology advancements are permanent (barring catastrophe) and have the potential to completely change life as we know it.

Even in the time that I can recall since I was a child, WWII has gone from being near the forefront of national consciousness to being pretty much a ghost. It has more of a presence due to the collectivism it engendered in governments of the West than anything else.

[macsga]

March bubble compared with November one 

* macsga waits for the Train...

[Richy_T]

  Let's say for example, there is a decision by the libertarians (and maybe the convince the rest of us) to progress to a new and "better" society that does NOT have roads, there would be a lot of resistance in segments of society to those kinds of ideas and plans... so then we end up in a state of serious disagreement and tension b/c the bright ideas of libertarians want to progress to a "more advanced" state of affairs - a world without roads.  GO figure!!!!

WTF JJG? You keep assigning these ambitions to others when that is not the case. Libertarians would decouple the roads from government and allow the system to develop in a natural and organic manner. My point with the roads is that what we would have *now* if this had happened a long time ago not that we magically jump from setup A to setup B. That is what collectivists do with their grand solutions and five-year-plans.