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[marcus_of_augustus]

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... because of the Chinese genetically-engineered spike protein the sars-CoV2 virus RNA is unstable in the region coding the glycoprotein of the ACE2 receptor making it more susceptible to rapid mutation in that region of the RNA, then exposing it to evolutionary pressures in the human population of mRNA vaccinated that have a very specific response to that very same spike protein is going to put selective pressures on this virus towards an unknowable and potentially catastrophic outcome.

How does this translate to normal language?

Biodom says we're fine, some genetically-engineered mice in the 70's they fiddled with were dozy and too slow too keep up ... and that's probably just like what will happen with this genetically-engineered, human-adapted bioweapons virus released from the Chinese Communist lab 45 years later.

... or it could be Pandora's box was opened and whole-population vaccination is just prepping the tinder for the final conflagration.

That's not what I said at all, but if you don't want to listen, then it is on you.

here's the crux of what you said ...

This reminds me of a big scare with recombinant DNA tech in the seventies. People were afraid that modified bacteria (from the lab) will do us much harm in the wild, so procedures were designed to prevent it (contamination of environment by the lab strains). It turned out eventually that bacterial lab strains were not a match for much more efficient strains of the wild. There were a few papers written on the subject. If someone of you ever seen and compared a wild mice with a lab one-the lab one would not last a day in the wild...it is slow moving and inept.

 ... so which is it most like in your sliding scale of analogies? A "big scare" with recombinant DNA tech and modified bacteria in the 70's that never came to anything? A dozy lab mice that doesn't compare with wild one? You've adeptly dialled back the risks across a few "false equivalence" scenarios until you arrive at the we-shouldn't-worry-our-pretty-little-heads-about-it position re. the CCP bioweaopons viruses killing 3 million+ and mutating at enhanced rates.

... and oh yeah, some vague reference to Darwin backs all this up btw.

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[ChartBuddy]

Explanation

[STT]

I think ChartBuddy hopes to raise the price single handed by this threads page count correlating to base price, add in that positive certainty and we certainly rise to far higher.    I seem to remember alot of fancy charts at the origins of the thread way back.   I was told by a trader not involved with crypto that volume considerations are irrelevant to BTC as it is traded in so many exchanges.   I did disagree with them on that but I think crypto is harder to call for reasons along those lines; in effect multiple confirmation is required for larger moves and we are likely to repeat ourselves.  Its also true stocks and other commodities can be traded multiple locations on differing prices and time zones, arbitrage usually keeps these things in line though.

There is a small positive trend over the last few days but mostly watching if price can leave range roughly kept since the low May 19th, lesser movement is just price wandering meantime.

[xhomerx10]

Windoze muppetry intensifies ....  what's next cats and grandkids cutesy pics? no wait share us some 3-hour family holiday home movies 

 You ever try to get .mov files to play in windows?

ssssshhhh, try not to encourage them

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSDj7bjAv2s

 I lol'd   
 

[ChartBuddy]

Explanation

[Biodom]

@marcus...my main point was that darwinian evolution is NOT a deterministic process, according to the view of most biologists.

Stephen Jay Gould in a book about Burgess shale (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wonderful_Life_(book) ): ""traits that enhance survival during an extinction do so in ways that are incidental and unrelated to the causes of their evolution in the first place."

Gould proposed that given a chance to "rewind the tape of life" and let it play again, we might find ourselves living in a world populated by descendants of Hallucigenia rather than Pikaia (the ancestor of all vertebrates). Gould stressed that his argument was not based on randomness but rather contingency; a process by which historical outcomes arise from an unpredictable sequence of antecedent states, where any change in the sequence alters the final result.

Bottom line is that you cannot predict the final result in the evolution [of anything] from an initial state.

You are trying to do just that..and time will show. I posit that the scenario you outlined has a very low probability of happening, but we shall see..or someone shall see.

...bitcoin and crypto, CRYPTO no bot and BITCOIN.

EDIT. This is, of course, unrelated to the responsibility for the lab leak, which now appears to possibly have happened. Efforts must be made to ascertain if it was accidental or deliberate.

[JayJuanGee]

...bitcoin and crypto, CRYPTO no bot and BITCOIN.

I could almost squeeze ur lil cheekies, you are such a cutie.  



That is b called Koreck!!!


Bitcoin and crypto no es bbbeeeee dee same ting-i-lie, and you seem to b getting it  little by little..



Good jobbbb!!!!!..  #nohomo  

[ChartBuddy]

Explanation

[lightfoot]

Interesting: Got an S17 coming in for repair and the guy was wondering how he could trust me with his miner. I thought about it, haven't really been asked that much, then wrote this:

When it comes down to it, the only thing I have to go on is my reputation here on the forum. If I did screw you over then a posting in the Wall Observer or scammer thread that I was a jerk would pretty much tank my future business. I'll take care of your unit, check it out, see what's wrong, and hopefully get the boards running so you can get back to mining. If I can't fix it there's no charge of course. If I can the fee is a couple months of mining revenue in bitpennies plus parts (chips if needed).

I do the best I can....

[xhomerx10]

Interesting: Got an S17 coming in for repair and the guy was wondering how he could trust me with his miner. I thought about it, haven't really been asked that much, then wrote this:

When it comes down to it, the only thing I have to go on is my reputation here on the forum. If I did screw you over then a posting in the Wall Observer or scammer thread that I was a jerk would pretty much tank my future business. I'll take care of your unit, check it out, see what's wrong, and hopefully get the boards running so you can get back to mining. If I can't fix it there's no charge of course. If I can the fee is a couple months of mining revenue in bitpennies plus parts (chips if needed).

I do the best I can....

 Well you have green trust as well.  That should also count for something given that the individual entries are specifically about your miner repair business.

[ChartBuddy]

Explanation

[Sayeds56]

https://engine.presearch.org/images?q=i+wqnt+to+get+rich+funny+quotes#view

[JayJuanGee]

Interesting: Got an S17 coming in for repair and the guy was wondering how he could trust me with his miner. I thought about it, haven't really been asked that much, then wrote this:

When it comes down to it, the only thing I have to go on is my reputation here on the forum. If I did screw you over then a posting in the Wall Observer or scammer thread that I was a jerk would pretty much tank my future business. I'll take care of your unit, check it out, see what's wrong, and hopefully get the boards running so you can get back to mining. If I can't fix it there's no charge of course. If I can the fee is a couple months of mining revenue in bitpennies plus parts (chips if needed).

I do the best I can....

For sure a bit of a dilemma to connect aspects of your business to your online identity, but sure of course some people do that, and also I can surely appreciate any kind of sensitivity that a person would have in regards to any kind of person who is brought in to review or repair hardware/software that is connected with bitcoin or other crypto for that matter.

Surely any fears with backdoors would be that they could lie dormant for years prior to being used and sometimes might not even be discovered for such a long time.

I was speaking with a close to a nocoiner cousin a few days ago, and I had not spoken with this cousin for a very long time, and I had not realized that he had developed quite a lot of interest and even knowledge about various cryptos including bitcoin.  I spent quite a bit of time attempting to correct several of his seeming misconceptions and all over the place talking points, and surely we know that some things are difficult to prove or disprove and even speculating about the price direction of one coin versus another can really get caught up into various spins on perceived truths.

At one point, my cousin mentioned that the government probably invented bitcoin.. He said that he believes that the USA government has a motive in order to have an ever-present backdoor that just sits there but then when I pointed out quite a few reasons why his assertion is likely not to be true, he asserted that he agrees that his idea is a long shot, but still one that he believes and it motivates him to be quite skeptical of bitcoin as an investment that will hold its value. 

Sure, in some sense, I cannot really disprove that likely to be nonsense by giving some reasons and even some actual factual happenings that causes his theory to be quite unlikely to be true including how much actual power that bitcoin actually gives to random previously powerless people.. and that power can be quite hidden from anyone including the govt.  He persisted to say that he remained concerned about the government having a backdoor into bitcoin... at least, the last that I heard from him on that point.   

[ChartBuddy]

Explanation

[Hueristic]

At one point, my cousin mentioned that the government probably invented bitcoin.. He said that he believes that the USA government has a motive in order to have an ever-present backdoor that just sits there but then when I pointed out quite a few reasons why his assertion is likely not to be true, he asserted that he agrees that his idea is a long shot, but still one that he believes and it motivates him to be quite skeptical of bitcoin as an investment that will hold its value. 

Is he an Idiot? This statement holds zero logic, if the Gov created it then they will not allow it to lose value and therefore not do what they want it to do so why does he think it will lose value. Those are diametrically opposed views, The guys a lost cause, don't waste your breath.

[JayJuanGee]

At one point, my cousin mentioned that the government probably invented bitcoin.. He said that he believes that the USA government has a motive in order to have an ever-present backdoor that just sits there but then when I pointed out quite a few reasons why his assertion is likely not to be true, he asserted that he agrees that his idea is a long shot, but still one that he believes and it motivates him to be quite skeptical of bitcoin as an investment that will hold its value.  

Is he an Idiot? This statement holds zero logic, if the Gov created it then they will not allow it to lose value and therefore not do what they want it to do so why does he think it will lose value. Those are diametrically opposed views, The guys a lost cause, don't waste your breath.

I have a lot of idiot relatives and friends, maybe even all of them, so I cannot really stop talking to these kinds of people.  They are everywhere.

Over the years, I have found that sometimes seeds planted from years back will come to fruition at later dates, and surely some people might not admit that their conversation with you was helpful for their rethinking their previous thoughts, but surely I can recognize that sometimes there are going to be various kinds of changes and even improvements in the ways that they think about certain kinds of topics that seem to somehow relate to my interactions with them.

This is not a one way street either because when I am trying to interact with people of varying perspectives, I frequently am trying to consider if there might be ways that I can have better interactions with them, and of course, sometimes even if the person is talking about really basic stuff and seems to be an idiot in various basics, frequently, there still seem to be things that I can attempt to learn - but also sometimes, it can be quite fruitful and better use of time to avoid certain topics with certain people, too.

With that particular cousin, I had heard him go down a few conspiracy theories previously that also involved the government and aliens, but sometimes I might not be ready, willing or able to follow some of his seemingly stream of conscious paths, so if we are somewhat attempting to talk about bitcoin, even though we did deviate into a few shitcoins (for sure seems to be the first thing that comes out of the mouths of various no coiner (or almost no coiner) normies), then at least we end up being able to have some kind of conversation and maybe even some bonding.. I mean I do have things in common with several of my cousins and I do end running into them quite a bit - even just once every few years.. but could end up being more frequently, too.

[Biodom]

From reddit: "Crypto macabre"...featuring just bitcoin's journey:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH5iixsI1KQ

[Hueristic]

I have a lot of idiot relatives and friends, maybe even all of them, so I cannot really stop talking to these kinds of people.  They are everywhere.

LOL, that gave me a good laugh!

[Richy_T]

Interesting: Got an S17 coming in for repair and the guy was wondering how he could trust me with his miner. I thought about it, haven't really been asked that much, then wrote this:

When it comes down to it, the only thing I have to go on is my reputation here on the forum. If I did screw you over then a posting in the Wall Observer or scammer thread that I was a jerk would pretty much tank my future business. I'll take care of your unit, check it out, see what's wrong, and hopefully get the boards running so you can get back to mining. If I can't fix it there's no charge of course. If I can the fee is a couple months of mining revenue in bitpennies plus parts (chips if needed).

I do the best I can....

It's been a while since I mined but as far as I know, the only potential issues could be stealing hash, which could be detected and attacking his network from the inside (which is a risk with all hardware).

[Richy_T]

Windoze muppetry intensifies ....  what's next cats and grandkids cutesy pics? no wait share us some 3-hour family holiday home movies 

 You ever try to get .mov files to play in windows?

Doesn't VLC handle them?