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And remember I told you to go and jerk off? Did you do it?  

No. But I often jerk off, it’s good for the prostate.

You should do it more often because that sexual tension you know... it's getting obvious...  Grin

I am having some difficulties appreciating how an 11-year old could be having "sexual tension."    Maybe something in the water to screw things up?  Maybe?
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September 30, 2021, 11:06:49 PM

I’ve started telling people to make sure they have a little BTC just in case this end of year runup comes to fruition. You aren’t going to want to be a nocoiner come Halloween and miss out on the fun. I think the ticket is worth the cost of admission. Even for weak hands and short term market players, I think the time is now and hope this isn’t the world’s largest bull trap.
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September 30, 2021, 11:10:27 PM
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I’ve started telling people to make sure they have a little BTC just in case this end of year runup comes to fruition. You aren’t going to want to be a nocoiner come Halloween and miss out on the fun. I think the ticket is worth the cost of admission. Even for weak hands and short term market players, I think the time is now and hope this isn’t the world’s largest bull trap.

Plan B posted this back in June -

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Bitcoin is below $34K, triggered by Elon Musk's energy FUD and China's mining crack down.

There is also a more fundamental reason that we see weakness in June, and possibly July. My worst case scenario for 2021 (price/on-chain based): Aug>47K, Sep>43K, Oct>63K, Nov>98K, Dec>135K

https://twitter.com/100trillionusd/status/1406577006230245376?s=21




We closed August at just over 47k by like $150.

We just closed September at around $43,750 so the model is holding. We need much better this month. Welcome to Uptober boys.
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September 30, 2021, 11:13:27 PM
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Lightning Strikes Twice!

Second week into this Lightning Network Saga. Real Life work has been a priority so I haven’t had much time to invest in this Lightning Node or follow-up on the previous post.

So I have taken some of my advice and thought seriously about where to position my node in the grand scheme of things and have decided I do want to be a routing node. I have decided to raise the fees to hopefully break even, and reduce the fees along the way when the channel has paid for itself. Will also be throwing another 5-10BTC into this venture, depending on how the next few weeks go... Not ready to pack it in yet!

My OP may have sounded negative, but in no way am I discounting Lightning Network. My expectation is in no way a reflection of the Lightning Network Bitcoin Scaling Solution.
This was a point of view from a LN node that was more focusing on Routing Payments than Retail Payments/Usage; the latter of which I strongly believe should be the primary reason for Lightning Network Layer 2 Scaling Solution.

I think there will be some sort of balance between OnChain and OffChain when lightning has critical mass, and in turn make it more profitable to run a lightning node.

I can definitely see the huge potential for micro transactions and general low value transactions but I cannot see any business case to "starting a routing node" in the hopes to turn a profit or break even, as it stands, without significant amount of capital/BTC. Remember 1BTC just isn’t going to cut it!

My expectation of being able to route thousands of transaction from the get go may have attributed to the less than favourable experience, but again that was me and not Lightning Network.

I am going to try and use it as a consumer and see how the experience is, although very limited support here in Australia. It may have to be virtual usage.

Final thoughts and comments....

Sorry Bob for getting you back into this Lightning Network Saga! Just when you thought you were out, they pull you back in!

It is very addictive and euphoric opening new channels. Not sure what it is, but every time a new channel is opened I feel like a kid in a candy shop again!

I have also “bit the bullet” and moved from command line to GUI (Ride The Lightning). Managing 60 Channels via CLI was starting to hurt the eyeballs and the JSON output was really starting to annoy me!

Now is a good time to start your own LN node, especially being able to open channels for 1SAT/vByte. If anyone wants and/or needs help. More than happy to help and don’t forget to join the WO LN Hub! Send me a PM for the required LN Node PubKeys.

I have given up on trying to re-balance the channels and just let it be. As an experiment, I have adjusted the current fee structure, and this in turns has made things lot quieter.
Last week, we had routed about 148 payments and collected approx 230SATS.

This week we have only routed 18 payments but have collected a significantly more amount for fees, approx. 2,761 SATS, and while it helps cover cost, I cannot help but feel bad for the person routing the payments (maybe because I know how it feels, kind of like being ripped off...)

I think part of the other issue I have is not having enough visuals on what is going on within the Lightning Network. Where payments are being routed, who is spending and where are they spending from etc. All we get to see is a transaction coming in and going out. It would be nice to see the start and end of that transaction. It sometimes feels like you are fishing in the middle of the ocean, all alone, waiting for something to bite, very lonely  Cry

I have always advocated for the notion of “don’t just judge it for what it is now”, “but for what it could potentially be”. And I still do strongly believe LN will be the future of Bitcoin.
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Sorry Bob for getting you back into this Lightning Network Saga! Just when you thought you were out, they pull you back in!

Went out to catch the new Venom movie with Rick (Don't see it. Pirate it. Absolute shit. I hated my life for two hours) and find that my LOOP channel was drained and closed again.

Fuck you man.

Seriously.

I hate this game.

I don't want to close all my channels just to reconcile my fucking funds.

This is pure bullshit.

Very pissed off.

EDIT: Thinking I'm figuring out what LOOP is doing when it's closing its channel with me. Believe it may be closing out the channel, and paying me the profit (or loss) I made, which is why everything balances out, minus channel-open fees? *sighs* Frustrating. Something doesn't quite seem right with that somewhere, but I can't be sure...

EDIT2: No, I'm not seriously PO'd. Just being a melodramatic little bitch because I can't figure out what the fruity RasPi is doing with my goddamn corn
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yeah you can make a large one for me. my eyes need the big print.

I think you may have missed my post.  capslock style is very nice may I have one similar?

Good as done my friend. Will make and post it tomorrow from work. Was really busy today so no wall observing.
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Sorry Bob for getting you back into this Lightning Network Saga! Just when you thought you were out, they pull you back in!

Went out to catch the new Venom movie with Rick (Don't see it. Pirate it. Absolute shit. I hated my life for two hours) and find that my LOOP channel was drained and closed again.

Fuck you man.

Seriously.

I hate this game.

I don't want to close all my channels just to reconcile my fucking funds.

This is pure bullshit.

Very pissed off.

I know what you mean! It seems so fucking one sided! it seem there is more taking than giving... This would work lot better if there is some mechanism to flow fund back the other way with out incurring ridiculous fees, that is also, when there is a path to be found.

I was very calm when i posted earlier, but your comments have just brought back feelings from the week before! argghhhhh! FUCK!
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yeah you can make a large one for me. my eyes need the big print.

I think you may have missed my post.  capslock style is very nice may I have one similar?

Good as done my friend. Will make and post it tomorrow from work. Was really busy today so no wall observing.
I don't have a Mastercam seat on my home pc. 
(I used to, when I was into pirating naughtiness back in the day)

For all the wo bro legends that were not included , my apologies. It was pretty much a random selection.
I am more than happy to make a jpeg for anyone who asks.


thank you!
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Very cool, but not as cool as this one

Piece of fine home interior

Thank you my friend. I'm so happy to know my piece is in good hands and appreciated. That means a lot to me.

So sorry to hear about your dog passing, dude. My condolences.
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October 01, 2021, 02:25:26 AM

... bitcoin mining getting some volcano power

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... I don't know man, allow me to criticise a little ... not a big fan of the black background really, what does it say about bitcoin? it's dark project? shady coders in hoodies?

... also the font is ... well i don't know what it is but I don't like it, in fact it's awful

... and the orange highlights, well i think it looks like the colour of that time I threw up after pumpkin pie, it's about as appealing too

.. but it's round, i'll give it that, i like circles.
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OK, so tell me when The Federal Reserve Chairman has any power to ban anything?Huh

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OK, so tell me when The Federal Reserve Chairman has any power to ban anything?Huh
He can suck my left nut.

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October 01, 2021, 04:46:50 AM

Anybody like to share their thoughts on the current market, price action?

It looks weak AF to me. I mean, I think everything is OK & we should rally in Q4 but we really need to start moving up soon. Part of me is fucking concerned if I’m honest.

It's always darkest before the dawn. September hasn't been particularly great for BTC since the beginning. Our targets for Q4:
October = new ATH (over $60k)
November = up to around $100-120k
December = blowoff top anywhere between $200-450k

So stop whining and get ready to get your face melted by this epic rally...  Cool


The pattern is simple

so far....



2012            ~$7.10
2013            ~$1,163        =  ~7 times the next low
2015            ~$152           =  ~20 times the previous low
2017            ~$19,666      =  ~7 times the next low
2019            ~$3,122        =  ~20 times the previous low
2021            ~$420,000    =   ~7 times the next low
2023            ~$60,000      =  ~20 times the previous low
2025            ~$8,400,000   


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420,000 Dollar seems like a good Number for Bitcoin. Lots of people like it.
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Maybe. Just remember that bitcoin can get to a 100 million dollar valuation mark.
But when this happens, how much is a gallon of milk? If it is 10k USD then the real purchasing power would be little changed.

I bet $10k for gallon of milk is coming fast then bitcoin anticipations for skyrocket.The people wonder the same combo meal of cold drink and popcorns cost way too much in malls then it used to be and the quantity has been reduced also? Welcome to inflationary world.

The best use of fiat in some countries like Venezuela is for craft making and they are using furniture made out of it as it's totally worthless and bitcoin could be a savior for them.



Why this happens? The government is printing notes out of thin air and the currency got depreciated.So the milk gallon you are saying is readily to come at that point also undoubtedly.

But what will you prefer like what's the bill sir?

$10k for milk gallon or 0.00004 btc is your choice.
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