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Question: Price Target for Nov. 30, 2024:
<$75K - 3 (3.8%)
$75K to $80K - 1 (1.3%)
$80K to $85K - 2 (2.5%)
$85K to $90K - 9 (11.3%)
$90K to $95K - 12 (15%)
$95K to $100K - 13 (16.3%)
>$100K - 40 (50%)
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February 27, 2022, 11:51:35 AM

I think the SWIFT restrictions will affect the common people (working class) of Russia the most,

True that. Today my daughter was warming up with a Russian girl before her tennis tournament and I had a quick chat with her dad. The guy was in shock: his credit cards stopped working yesterday and he wasn't sure he will be able to pay for the hotel.  Shocked
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February 27, 2022, 12:10:00 PM

Some experts even claim that cutting ties with SWIFT could be a positive development for Russia, as it could propel the spread of the Russian ruble as an international currency.

If hotels all over the world want guests from Russia they must start accepting rubles.
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February 27, 2022, 12:14:54 PM
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Some experts even claim that cutting ties with SWIFT could be a positive development for Russia, as it could propel the spread of the Russian ruble as an international currency.

If hotels all over the world want guests from Russia they must start accepting rubles.


Roubles? Why anybody would want rouble when there's BTC?  Grin
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February 27, 2022, 12:19:26 PM

Some experts even claim that cutting ties with SWIFT could be a positive development for Russia, as it could propel the spread of the Russian ruble as an international currency.

If hotels all over the world want guests from Russia they must start accepting rubles.


Roubles? Why anybody would want rouble when there's BTC?  Grin

If you want to buy Russian oil and natural gas you have to pay rubles or gold.
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February 27, 2022, 12:21:59 PM

If you want to buy Russian oil and natural gas you have to pay rubles or gold.

...Just make sure the gasoline you spend for transporting the gold doesn't cost more than the actual gold.

So, again, why not Bitcoin then?
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February 27, 2022, 12:27:54 PM

If you want to buy Russian oil and natural gas you have to pay rubles or gold.

...Just make sure the gasoline you spend for transporting the gold doesn't cost more than the actual gold.

So, again, why not Bitcoin then?

Because salaries of US military is still paid in dollars. Why not Bitcoin?

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February 27, 2022, 12:44:44 PM
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https://twitter.com/gaborgurbacs/status/1497907064349339648?t=x6m_ylhn8h7TPP0OZsikTA&s=19
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February 27, 2022, 01:01:02 PM
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I think you are right about the "smoke and mirrors" part, or at least that was the initial plan, but the ongoing warmongering on both sides is spinning out of control, hate feeds into more hate. After asking around among my friends, I'm the only one promoting peace at the moment, didn't get a single person in here to agree about that either (so far).

It's a sports team thing. Most people love to support their team despite it being detrimental to them. The players on the team and owners get rich, as the supporters hand over their hard earned money on tickets and paraphernalia. The other team is of course the enemy and they must be yelled at and insulted. Pride is of paramount importance. It seems war is no different, a team is picked, history ignored, and the leaders (and a few soldiers/players) are made into heroic celebrities as the people starve and die in ditches.

We also bitch and bicker about who is wrong and why. All the while ignoring the real problem that starts all conflicts, which is having unrepresentative opaque governments with sociopathic celebrity leaders.

This is the best explanation I've seen so far (ran out of merits again), too bad we don't solve all conflicts with sports.

Unfortunately, this time around the "proxy" part of the war is growing thin, NATO countries now openly admit sending weapons, and Russian allies are outspoken about their support as well. How long before NATO troops get involved directly? And when that happens, how long before the nukes go off?

As a citizen of the world (left the country where I was born back in 2001), having close to zero patriotism makes it easier to choose peace.
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February 27, 2022, 01:22:07 PM

Some experts even claim that cutting ties with SWIFT could be a positive development for Russia, as it could propel the spread of the Russian ruble as an international currency.

If hotels all over the world want guests from Russia they must start accepting rubles.

Things being the way they are now, many guests from Russia might have to stay far from western hotels for some time.
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February 27, 2022, 01:39:39 PM

Some experts even claim that cutting ties with SWIFT could be a positive development for Russia, as it could propel the spread of the Russian ruble as an international currency.

If hotels all over the world want guests from Russia they must start accepting rubles.

Things being the way they are now, many guests from Russia might have to stay far from western hotels for some time.

This will be a problem for the hotels, not for the guests.
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February 27, 2022, 01:46:58 PM

This will be a problem for the hotels, not for the guests.

I'm sure the guests will be overly happy to have their (early booking) advance payments lost because they cannot pay (in euro) the rest for their accommodation for the holidays.
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February 27, 2022, 02:09:05 PM

Has putin just hinted the nuclear war ?

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February 27, 2022, 02:21:27 PM

Yes, Russian nuclear forces are on hightened alert.
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February 27, 2022, 02:22:15 PM

A bit unclear who they are going to fire them at though.
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February 27, 2022, 02:24:02 PM

Yes, Russian nuclear forces are on hightened alert.

Madness going up yo
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February 27, 2022, 02:27:14 PM

Has putin just hinted the nuclear war ?

A few months ago I would have said that he was just bluffing, but given the situation with the war and sanctions, no one should be surprised if nuclear missiles take off - but I still hope he is not so foolish that he cannot understand that this is the end of him and Russia - the US and all other nuclear powers that are against Russia would retaliate ruthlessly with everything they have.
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February 27, 2022, 02:30:43 PM

This will be a problem for the hotels, not for the guests.

I'm sure the guests will be overly happy to have their (early booking) advance payments lost because they cannot pay (in euro) the rest for their accommodation for the holidays.

I'm sure they will win the case if they decide to sue the SWIFT cooperative in Brussels.
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