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Seizure of Russian CB assets is a declaration of war. WW3 has just started. Nobody wins. The USA will become radioactive desert defending Nazi junta in Kiev. Psychopaths in London and Washington must tell this to people in the West!
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Seizure of Russian CB assets is a declaration of war. WW3 has just started. Nobody wins. The USA will become radioactive desert defending Nazi junta in Kiev. Psychopaths in London and Washington must tell this to people in the West!

Along with the SWIFT restrictions this is being a bit overblown I think. Their assets aren't being seized.

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/devastating-move-us-weighs-sanctions-russias-central-bank-germany-backs-targeted

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  • Commit to ensuring that "selected Russian banks" are removed from the SWIFT messaging system: "This will ensure that these banks are disconnected from the international financial system and harm their ability to operate globally."
  • Commit to imposing "restrictive measures that will prevent the Russian Central Bank from deploying its international reserves in ways that undermine the impact of our sanctions."
  • Commit to "acting against the people and entities who facilitate the war in Ukraine" by taking measures to limit the sale of citizenship, so called golden passports, that let wealthy Russians connected to the Russian government become citizens
  • Commit to launching "a transatlantic task force that will ensure the effective implementation of our financial sanctions by identifying and freezing the assets of sanctioned individuals and companies that exist within our jurisdictions."
  • Stepping up or coordination against disinformation and other forms of hybrid warfare.

Also note that the Russian CB assets will continue to expand as Europe will continue their purchases of oil and gas. If the Russian CB can't make use of these assets because they have been frozen, they will no longer accept Euros for them and will instead demand payment in Rubles, Yuan, or BTC? If Europe doesn't pay, there will be no gas or oil. In other words, no way are they really freezing any Russian CB assets.
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Kharkov the second largest city in Ukraine is liberated today. The population can now speak their mother language Russian without any fear.
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Seizure of Russian CB assets is a declaration of war. WW3 has just started. Nobody wins. The USA will become radioactive desert defending Nazi junta in Kiev. Psychopaths in London and Washington must tell this to people in the West!

Along with the SWIFT restrictions this is being a bit overblown I think. Their assets aren't being seized.

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/devastating-move-us-weighs-sanctions-russias-central-bank-germany-backs-targeted

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  • Commit to ensuring that "selected Russian banks" are removed from the SWIFT messaging system: "This will ensure that these banks are disconnected from the international financial system and harm their ability to operate globally."
  • Commit to imposing "restrictive measures that will prevent the Russian Central Bank from deploying its international reserves in ways that undermine the impact of our sanctions."
  • Commit to "acting against the people and entities who facilitate the war in Ukraine" by taking measures to limit the sale of citizenship, so called golden passports, that let wealthy Russians connected to the Russian government become citizens
  • Commit to launching "a transatlantic task force that will ensure the effective implementation of our financial sanctions by identifying and freezing the assets of sanctioned individuals and companies that exist within our jurisdictions."
  • Stepping up or coordination against disinformation and other forms of hybrid warfare.

Also note that the Russian CB assets will continue to expand as Europe will continue their purchases of oil and gas. If the Russian CB can't make use of these assets because they have been frozen, they will no longer accept Euros for them and will instead demand payment in Rubles, Yuan, or BTC? If Europe doesn't pay, there will be no gas or oil. In other words, no way are they really freezing any Russian CB assets.

At first glance I thought this would be good for Bitcoin, but getting second thoughts, this could backfire and result in more BTC regulations.

I think the SWIFT restrictions will affect the common people (working class) of Russia the most, if some country wants to buy gas from Russia they can bypass all of this without using Bitcoin (or other crypto currency) easily. The rich will just flee to their luxury bunkers eventually if the war support (on both sides) keep going at this rate.
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Seizure of Russian CB assets is a declaration of war. WW3 has just started. Nobody wins. The USA will become radioactive desert defending Nazi junta in Kiev. Psychopaths in London and Washington must tell this to people in the West!

Along with the SWIFT restrictions this is being a bit overblown I think. Their assets aren't being seized.

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/devastating-move-us-weighs-sanctions-russias-central-bank-germany-backs-targeted

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  • Commit to ensuring that "selected Russian banks" are removed from the SWIFT messaging system: "This will ensure that these banks are disconnected from the international financial system and harm their ability to operate globally."
  • Commit to imposing "restrictive measures that will prevent the Russian Central Bank from deploying its international reserves in ways that undermine the impact of our sanctions."
  • Commit to "acting against the people and entities who facilitate the war in Ukraine" by taking measures to limit the sale of citizenship, so called golden passports, that let wealthy Russians connected to the Russian government become citizens
  • Commit to launching "a transatlantic task force that will ensure the effective implementation of our financial sanctions by identifying and freezing the assets of sanctioned individuals and companies that exist within our jurisdictions."
  • Stepping up or coordination against disinformation and other forms of hybrid warfare.

Also note that the Russian CB assets will continue to expand as Europe will continue their purchases of oil and gas. If the Russian CB can't make use of these assets because they have been frozen, they will no longer accept Euros for them and will instead demand payment in Rubles, Yuan, or BTC? If Europe doesn't pay, there will be no gas or oil. In other words, no way are they really freezing any Russian CB assets.

At first glance I thought this would be good for Bitcoin, but getting second thoughts, this could backfire and result in more BTC regulations.

I think the SWIFT restrictions will affect the common people (working class) of Russia the most, if some country wants to buy gas from Russia they can bypass all of this without using Bitcoin (or other crypto currency) easily. The rich will just flee to their luxury bunkers eventually if the war support (on both sides) keep going at this rate.

Of course the restrictions will hurt the common folk the most, that's been proven over and over again. Sanctions do nothing but screw over the people. And you're right it may be bad for Bitcoin, but Russia will not be getting cut off, because to do that would mean that Europe will collapse. It's all talk. smoke and mirrors, the elites everywhere will be unaffected.
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Seizure of Russian CB assets is a declaration of war. WW3 has just started. Nobody wins. The USA will become radioactive desert defending Nazi junta in Kiev. Psychopaths in London and Washington must tell this to people in the West!

Along with the SWIFT restrictions this is being a bit overblown I think. Their assets aren't being seized.

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/devastating-move-us-weighs-sanctions-russias-central-bank-germany-backs-targeted

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  • Commit to ensuring that "selected Russian banks" are removed from the SWIFT messaging system: "This will ensure that these banks are disconnected from the international financial system and harm their ability to operate globally."
  • Commit to imposing "restrictive measures that will prevent the Russian Central Bank from deploying its international reserves in ways that undermine the impact of our sanctions."
  • Commit to "acting against the people and entities who facilitate the war in Ukraine" by taking measures to limit the sale of citizenship, so called golden passports, that let wealthy Russians connected to the Russian government become citizens
  • Commit to launching "a transatlantic task force that will ensure the effective implementation of our financial sanctions by identifying and freezing the assets of sanctioned individuals and companies that exist within our jurisdictions."
  • Stepping up or coordination against disinformation and other forms of hybrid warfare.

Also note that the Russian CB assets will continue to expand as Europe will continue their purchases of oil and gas. If the Russian CB can't make use of these assets because they have been frozen, they will no longer accept Euros for them and will instead demand payment in Rubles, Yuan, or BTC? If Europe doesn't pay, there will be no gas or oil. In other words, no way are they really freezing any Russian CB assets.

At first glance I thought this would be good for Bitcoin, but getting second thoughts, this could backfire and result in more BTC regulations.

I think the SWIFT restrictions will affect the common people (working class) of Russia the most, if some country wants to buy gas from Russia they can bypass all of this without using Bitcoin (or other crypto currency) easily. The rich will just flee to their luxury bunkers eventually if the war support (on both sides) keep going at this rate.

Of course the restrictions will hurt the common folk the most, that's been proven over and over again. Sanctions do nothing but screw over the people. And you're right it may be bad for Bitcoin, but Russia will not be getting cut off, because to do that would mean that Europe will collapse. It's all talk. smoke and mirrors, the elites everywhere will be unaffected.

This kind of reminds me of the post from satoshi....

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2216.msg29280#msg29280

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Seizure of Russian CB assets is a declaration of war. WW3 has just started. Nobody wins. The USA will become radioactive desert defending Nazi junta in Kiev. Psychopaths in London and Washington must tell this to people in the West!

Along with the SWIFT restrictions this is being a bit overblown I think. Their assets aren't being seized.

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/devastating-move-us-weighs-sanctions-russias-central-bank-germany-backs-targeted

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  • Commit to ensuring that "selected Russian banks" are removed from the SWIFT messaging system: "This will ensure that these banks are disconnected from the international financial system and harm their ability to operate globally."
  • Commit to imposing "restrictive measures that will prevent the Russian Central Bank from deploying its international reserves in ways that undermine the impact of our sanctions."
  • Commit to "acting against the people and entities who facilitate the war in Ukraine" by taking measures to limit the sale of citizenship, so called golden passports, that let wealthy Russians connected to the Russian government become citizens
  • Commit to launching "a transatlantic task force that will ensure the effective implementation of our financial sanctions by identifying and freezing the assets of sanctioned individuals and companies that exist within our jurisdictions."
  • Stepping up or coordination against disinformation and other forms of hybrid warfare.

Also note that the Russian CB assets will continue to expand as Europe will continue their purchases of oil and gas. If the Russian CB can't make use of these assets because they have been frozen, they will no longer accept Euros for them and will instead demand payment in Rubles, Yuan, or BTC? If Europe doesn't pay, there will be no gas or oil. In other words, no way are they really freezing any Russian CB assets.

At first glance I thought this would be good for Bitcoin, but getting second thoughts, this could backfire and result in more BTC regulations.

I think the SWIFT restrictions will affect the common people (working class) of Russia the most, if some country wants to buy gas from Russia they can bypass all of this without using Bitcoin (or other crypto currency) easily. The rich will just flee to their luxury bunkers eventually if the war support (on both sides) keep going at this rate.

Of course the restrictions will hurt the common folk the most, that's been proven over and over again. Sanctions do nothing but screw over the people. And you're right it may be bad for Bitcoin, but Russia will not be getting cut off, because to do that would mean that Europe will collapse. It's all talk. smoke and mirrors, the elites everywhere will be unaffected.

I think you are right about the "smoke and mirrors" part, or at least that was the initial plan, but the ongoing warmongering on both sides is spinning out of control, hate feeds into more hate. After asking around among my friends, I'm the only one promoting peace at the moment, didn't get a single person in here to agree about that either (so far).
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I think you are right about the "smoke and mirrors" part, or at least that was the initial plan, but the ongoing warmongering on both sides is spinning out of control, hate feeds into more hate. After asking around among my friends, I'm the only one promoting peace at the moment, didn't get a single person in here to agree about that either (so far).

It's a sports team thing. Most people love to support their team despite it being detrimental to them. The players on the team and owners get rich, as the supporters hand over their hard earned money on tickets and paraphernalia. The other team is of course the enemy and they must be yelled at and insulted. Pride is of paramount importance. It seems war is no different, a team is picked, history ignored, and the leaders (and a few soldiers/players) are made into heroic celebrities as the people starve and die in ditches.

We also bitch and bicker about who is wrong and why. All the while ignoring the real problem that starts all conflicts, which is having unrepresentative opaque governments with sociopathic celebrity leaders.
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This kind of reminds me of the post from satoshi....

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2216.msg29280#msg29280



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I think the SWIFT restrictions will affect the common people (working class) of Russia the most,

True that. Today my daughter was warming up with a Russian girl before her tennis tournament and I had a quick chat with her dad. The guy was in shock: his credit cards stopped working yesterday and he wasn't sure he will be able to pay for the hotel.  Shocked
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Some experts even claim that cutting ties with SWIFT could be a positive development for Russia, as it could propel the spread of the Russian ruble as an international currency.

If hotels all over the world want guests from Russia they must start accepting rubles.
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Some experts even claim that cutting ties with SWIFT could be a positive development for Russia, as it could propel the spread of the Russian ruble as an international currency.

If hotels all over the world want guests from Russia they must start accepting rubles.


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