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March 29, 2014, 01:23:52 AM

I believe the ban is real as well. I'll believe some of China's most reputable news sources over the permabulls on this forum that have been telling everyone to buy for the last three months.

Permabulls. You can't even get the term right. Fuckin sell your coins and wave them goodbye if you want. Remember when BTCChina shut down for two weeks because they thought they couldn't accept payments? How many times are people gonna fall for the same trick?
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March 29, 2014, 01:27:13 AM

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Is the news bogus? There is certainly reason to believe it may not be.

Some reason more significant than repeats of a single article that contained no proof or references?

I did see a link to CCTV posted on TradingView... did not click, figured it was in Chinese anyway... but many people were saying the [practical] ban was being discussed on CCTV.

Maybe I just got trolled.

I´m pretty sure that the ban is real. I just don´t know if and how much further we drop when it is official.

They banned another online payment service a few weeks ago, as far as i know.
No big deal for them to close their bank accounts.It´s similar to the Gox diaster, everybody knew about it but denied it until the last second.
People even sent money to Gox in the last days, when it was more than obvious what was happenin.
The chinese traders will probably trade until the last second and further, when it´s too late to get money out.


wouldnt they just hodl their coins for better days anyway?
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March 29, 2014, 01:27:40 AM

they broadcast a 2 hour long documentary about it

then they ban it but not really

then they say the rumors that they were really banning it for good is false

then they ban it for real

then they ....??buy them all up, wait a week, rebroadcast a 2 hour long documentary about it, and be like HA HA we got all yours Coinz, but its cool you can buy them from a trusted source now ??

 Huh Huh Huh
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Is the news bogus? There is certainly reason to believe it may not be.

Some reason more significant than repeats of a single article that contained no proof or references?

I did see a link to CCTV posted on TradingView... did not click, figured it was in Chinese anyway... but many people were saying the [practical] ban was being discussed on CCTV.

Maybe I just got trolled.

I´m pretty sure that the ban is real. I just don´t know if and how much further we drop when it is official.

They banned another online payment service a few weeks ago, as far as i know.
No big deal for them to close their bank accounts.It´s similar to the Gox diaster, everybody knew about it but denied it until the last second.
People even sent money to Gox in the last days, when it was more than obvious what was happenin.
The chinese traders will probably trade until the last second and further, when it´s too late to get money out.


wouldnt they just hodl their coins for better days anyway?

 Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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March 29, 2014, 01:30:04 AM

Well, "officially they don´t ban Bitcoin itself, they´re just closing down the bank accounts of the exchanges. As far as i know it is still allowed to deposit and withdraw cash.
So Bitcoin itself will not get banned, that´s what they announced in their denial statement, so in fact they didn´t lie. No ban, just makin tradin useless.
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March 29, 2014, 01:34:50 AM

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Is the news bogus? There is certainly reason to believe it may not be.

Some reason more significant than repeats of a single article that contained no proof or references?

It wasn't a single article and it was also reported by one of the most respected news sources in China.

More respected than Newsweek? Please.

Tv in China is watch by hundreds of millions of people and articles are read by hundreds of millions of people as well

There is 1B of people in America and 4 in Asia...The center of the world is already Asia and it will be even more Asia as time pass by in the 21th century

You're missing the point. Sometimes the story is wrong, even if it's a major news source, even if other news sources regurgitate it.

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March 29, 2014, 01:41:07 AM

Let's say hypothetically that the ban is real. How much of that has already been priced in? Price has been dropping for four months since the first ban rumors. I'm almost hoping it's real because like Gox and Silk Road, we can finally get past it.
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March 29, 2014, 01:42:40 AM

Mornin' all!!

Can't really be arsed reading back through 20 odd pages but I think I get the idea from the last couple: cultists have their fingers in their ears, Chessnut clinging to EW for comfort while TERA is a lone voice of reason along with...Fonzie.  Strange days indeed  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Hey Fonzie...where in Asia are you at present?
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March 29, 2014, 01:44:15 AM

Let's say hypothetically that the ban is real. How much of that has already been priced in? Price has been dropping for four months since the first ban rumors. I'm almost hoping it's real because like Gox and Silk Road, we can finally get past it.

Why is it so hard to imagine that we will test 380-400 before establishing a bottom?
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TERA is a lone voice of reason along with...Fonzie.  Strange days indeed  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy



not sure about Tera, but fonzie here sounds like a good trader.

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Mornin' all!!

Can't really be arsed reading back through 20 odd pages but I think I get the idea from the last couple: cultists have their fingers in their ears, Chessnut clinging to EW for comfort while TERA is a lone voice of reason along with...Fonzie.  Strange days indeed  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Hey Fonzie...where in Asia are you at present?

Right now i´m in Malaysia-Kuala Lumpur, preparin for my flight back home on Sunday. I had awesome weeks , i have visited Malaysia, Cambodia, Vietnam, Indonesia and New Guinea.
23 flights in 6 weeks  Cheesy
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TERA is a lone voice of reason along with...Fonzie.  Strange days indeed  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy



not sure about Tera, but fonzie here sounds like a good trader.



Fonzie has good things to offer the forum when he is not acting like an asswipe. He has been better recently. I don't know why he felt the need to be such a prick when he first came here.
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March 29, 2014, 01:56:30 AM

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Is the news bogus? There is certainly reason to believe it may not be.

Some reason more significant than repeats of a single article that contained no proof or references?

I did see a link to CCTV posted on TradingView... did not click, figured it was in Chinese anyway... but many people were saying the [practical] ban was being discussed on CCTV.

Maybe I just got trolled.

I´m pretty sure that the ban is real. I just don´t know if and how much further we drop when it is official.

They banned another online payment service a few weeks ago, as far as i know.
No big deal for them to close their bank accounts.It´s similar to the Gox diaster, everybody knew about it but denied it until the last second.
People even sent money to Gox in the last days, when it was more than obvious what was happenin.
The chinese traders will probably trade until the last second and further, when it´s too late to get money out.


wouldnt they just hodl their coins for better days anyway?

If I lived in China, I would be buying as much as I could while I still could . It's primary value outside of speculation is to take advantage of a capital control loophole. I know I'm somewhat contrarian, but the fact that nobody is doing that should be informative.
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March 29, 2014, 01:58:04 AM

 Shocked Shocked

I think i have done too much Acid in the last weeks- Flowers all over me from 3 different Bitcointalk members???
 Wink  Cheesy Cheesy

Thanks.
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March 29, 2014, 01:59:10 AM

Breaking News:

If no one buys we won´t go up  Shocked

If no one sells, we won't go down.
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March 29, 2014, 02:02:30 AM

The market obviously is uncertain on the ban being real or not.  There are no confirmations and all media pointedly refer to Caixin as the (only) source. 

However one cannot easily dismiss it as a hoax:

* The reporter is not anonymous, stands by the report, and Caixin seems to be a respectable source.  Moreover the reporter claims to have seen the document, not just heard about it.  And his middle name is not "McGrath"  Wink.

* I have not seen anyone question the plausibility of the ban or its details (e.g. the 15-day withdrawal-only period, and the explicit inclusion of the CEOs' personal bank accounts).  If it is a hoax, it seems to be carefully crafted to sound very "PBoC-like".

* The PBoC had one full day to issue a denial, but did not, in spite of much asking and media attention.  In contrast, when similar rumors circulated on Mar/21, the PBoC denied ir on the same day through its "twitter" (weibo) account.

* When this new report was first published, OKCoin's CEO emphatically dismissed it as a hoax and condemned those who use such methods etc.  I have not seen any more statements like that, it seems that the exchange operators are now unsure, too.

* The rumor is repeated on the website of China's main state TV network, and presumably was bradcast by them.  It seems strange that they would report a leaked PBoC document without checking and getting an OK from the bank.

On the other hand, the Mar/21 rumors and the Caixin article do seem to refer to the same thing, a "strenghtening of regulations" decided by the PBoC around Mar/18.   Perhaps the document shown to Caixin was only a working draft, that in the end was not approved by PBoC.  Or perhaps the ban was still under discussion on Mar/21 (hence the denial), but is now approved (hence the lack of denial).

Or perhaps the reporter was duped by a corrupt official.  Besides the traders who long for cheap coins, I can imagine a couple other ways in which a large temporary price drop would be extremely profitable to certain people.

On the other hand, if the ban is real, perhaps it was leaked on purpose, to soften the expected reaction from the bitcoin trading community.  Namely, if the ban is officially confirmed  on Monday, most traders will be already half-resigned to it.
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March 29, 2014, 02:02:48 AM

Let's say hypothetically that the ban is real. How much of that has already been priced in? Price has been dropping for four months since the first ban rumors. I'm almost hoping it's real because like Gox and Silk Road, we can finally get past it.

Why is it so hard to imagine that we will test 380-400 before establishing a bottom?

That isn't hard to imagine. It's entirely possible. If that's what it takes to turn the market for good, I could live with that.
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March 29, 2014, 02:07:08 AM

Breaking News:

If no one buys we won´t go up  Shocked

If no one sells, we won't go down.


I have to think about that, but there might be some truth in it.
For now, Chona started dumpin a little bit. We´ll see how low this will go.
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March 29, 2014, 02:08:21 AM

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Is the news bogus? There is certainly reason to believe it may not be.

Some reason more significant than repeats of a single article that contained no proof or references?

It wasn't a single article and it was also reported by one of the most respected news sources in China.

More respected than Newsweek? Please.

Tv in China is watch by hundreds of millions of people and articles are read by hundreds of millions of people as well

There is 1B of people in America and 4 in Asia...The center of the world is already Asia and it will be even more Asia as time pass by in the 21th century

You're missing the point. Sometimes the story is wrong, even if it's a major news source, even if other news sources regurgitate it.



Yes of course it is; I don't know what will be the extend of the ban in China but I doubt Newsweek know more than a Chinese newspaper

Let's say hypothetically that the ban is real. How much of that has already been priced in? Price has been dropping for four months since the first ban rumors. I'm almost hoping it's real because like Gox and Silk Road, we can finally get past it.

I agree with you there; while there is all this negativity new businesses are accepting Bitcoin, adopton is growing, the financial sector is domming itself with its malpractices and a lot of young smart minds are tiding themselves with Bitcoin building infrastructure and innovating so within a year we won't even remember mt gox or even China ban and we will see a price in 5digits or approaching 5 digits
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