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[N12]

When exactly will FINCEN block US Customers from using Bitstamp or have they registered in the meanwhile?

Covert elements of the US government are behind bitcoin, hence why China and Russia hate it so much. US will never ban it.

I didn´t talk about a complete  USA ban, i talked about USA blocking transfers to Bitstamp due to the fact that they are not registered with FINCEN.
Bitpay wouldn´t work anymore...
Coinbase....

Hm, why would Slovenian company be registered with FINCEN?

Why would a Japanese company? It's illegal to deal with US citizens without following their regulations, no matter what country your business is in.

[fonzie]

When exactly will FINCEN block US Customers from using Bitstamp or have they registered in the meanwhile?

Covert elements of the US government are behind bitcoin, hence why China and Russia hate it so much. US will never ban it.

I didn´t talk about a complete  USA ban, i talked about USA blocking transfers to Bitstamp due to the fact that they are not registered with FINCEN.
Bitpay wouldn´t work anymore...
Coinbase....

Hm, why would Slovenian company be registered with FINCEN?

Because they are accepting U.S. customer deposits and withdrawls

[aminorex]

AUR has been forked to death.

[seleme]

When exactly will FINCEN block US Customers from using Bitstamp or have they registered in the meanwhile?

Covert elements of the US government are behind bitcoin, hence why China and Russia hate it so much. US will never ban it.

I didn´t talk about a complete  USA ban, i talked about USA blocking transfers to Bitstamp due to the fact that they are not registered with FINCEN.
Bitpay wouldn´t work anymore...
Coinbase....

Hm, why would Slovenian company be registered with FINCEN?

Because they are accepting U.S. customer deposits and withdrawls

So what? As long as they don't have entities in USA where they accept it they are not under US legislation, just as million other financial institutions Americans deal with daily.

[fonzie]

Not true,

FINCEN already announced that they would go after the exchanges that haven´t registered about 2 weeks ago.
Google it.

[seleme]

Not true,

FINCEN already announced that they would go after the exchanges that haven´t registered about 2 weeks ago.
Google it.

They can go after any exchange that is based in USA or accept deposits and withdrawals on US soil.

[windjc]

Not true,

FINCEN already announced that they would go after the exchanges that haven´t registered about 2 weeks ago.
Google it.

They can go after any exchange that is based in USA or accept deposits and withdrawals on US soil.

Fonzie's having a hard time with this one. I guess he thinks Obama might issue a military invasion of Slovenia to take over Bitstamp.

[fonzie]

Bitstamp can do whatever they wan´t with europeans or any body else and the US doesn´t care,  but if they potentially launder money for US Customers Fincen is very interested.

[windjc]

Bitstamp can do whatever they wan´t with europeans or any body else and the US doesn´t care,  but if they potentially launder money for US Customers Fincen is very interested.

Hey guys,

what if the blockchain breaks tomorrow? What do you guys think will happen to the price then?

[windjc]

Bitstamp can do whatever they wan´t with europeans or any body else and the US doesn´t care,  but if they potentially launder money for US Customers Fincen is very interested.

Maybe that's why Bitstamp is FINCEN complaint. Hmmmm, possibly....

[N12]

Not true,

FINCEN already announced that they would go after the exchanges that haven´t registered about 2 weeks ago.
Google it.

They can go after any exchange that is based in USA or accept deposits and withdrawals on US soil.

Fonzie's having a hard time with this one. I guess he thinks Obama might issue a military invasion of Slovenia to take over Bitstamp.

Do you mind telling me why it is that non-US online gambling sites don't accept US customers?

[fonzie]

Bitstamp can do whatever they wan´t with europeans or any body else and the US doesn´t care,  but if they potentially launder money for US Customers Fincen is very interested.

Hey guys,

what if the blockchain breaks tomorrow? What do you guys think will happen to the price then?

Hey windjc , remember how you laughed at me when i said MTGox will shut down and you didn´t care and bought Coins via Bitcoinbuilder.

[windjc]

Bitstamp can do whatever they wan´t with europeans or any body else and the US doesn´t care,  but if they potentially launder money for US Customers Fincen is very interested.

Hey guys,

what if the blockchain breaks tomorrow? What do you guys think will happen to the price then?

Hey windjc , remember how you laughed at me when i said MTGox will shut down and you didn´t care and bought Coins via Bitcoinbuilder.

No.

[fotosonics]

Do you mind telling me why it is that non-US online gambling sites don't accept US customers?

For the same reason Havelock Investments for bitcoin ventures don't.

"Due to current US Securities regulations, Full power asia investment does not currently accept investment from the US. Should a investor be determined as a US resident we reserve the right to issue a buyback/refund on resident's investment"

- direct quote from email.

[windjc]

Not true,

FINCEN already announced that they would go after the exchanges that haven´t registered about 2 weeks ago.
Google it.

They can go after any exchange that is based in USA or accept deposits and withdrawals on US soil.

Fonzie's having a hard time with this one. I guess he thinks Obama might issue a military invasion of Slovenia to take over Bitstamp.

Do you mind telling me why it is that non-US online gambling sites don't accept US customers?

Would you mind telling me why this is important right now? Do you have some relevant info about US blocking wires to Bitstamp that you want to share with us? No? Ok, then f**k off.

I understand the *possibilities that exist, but the US also has online gambling laws that are different than bitcoin laws, especially as bitcoin has few laws.

If Bitstamp one day in the future doesnt accept US money, then some exchange in NY or SF will. Big f**king deal.


Again: Is this suppose to effect our trading decisions today? Is this suppose to shake out the "weak hands". Or we just talking a bunch of crap for the sake of it? If so, what happens if you or I don't wake up tomorrow? What happens if everyone else does wake up and collectively decides that Litecoin is the new world currency? What happens if we really are in the Matrix? What happens if someone uncomprehendable happens in 5 minutes?

[fotosonics]

Would you mind telling me why this is important right now? Do you have some relevant info about US blocking wires to Bitstamp that you want to share with us? No? Ok, then f**k off.

I understand the *possibilities that exist, but the US also has online gambling laws that are different than bitcoin laws, especially as bitcoin has few laws.

If Bitstamp one day in the future doesnt accept US money, then some exchange in NY or SF will. Big f**king deal.

See my post above. It's not the US that is directly blocking wires, it's "Due to current US Securities regulations" which also scare away bitcoin ventures from accepting US investment so they can't be held liable.

This is the first direct evidence I've seen that US regulation hurts bitcoin.

[fonzie]

We´ll talk about it later, right now the charts are reactin due to the possibilty that Chinese exchange are becomin useless.
We can talk about the Bitstamp Fincen issue when it´s about to drop from 300 to 100$

 

[windjc]

Would you mind telling me why this is important right now? Do you have some relevant info about US blocking wires to Bitstamp that you want to share with us? No? Ok, then f**k off.

I understand the *possibilities that exist, but the US also has online gambling laws that are different than bitcoin laws, especially as bitcoin has few laws.

If Bitstamp one day in the future doesnt accept US money, then some exchange in NY or SF will. Big f**king deal.

See my post above. It's not the US that is directly blocking wires, it's "Due to current US Securities regulations" which also scare away bitcoin ventures from accepting US investment so they can't be held liable.

This is the first direct evidence I've seen that US regulation hurts bitcoin.

Did you receive that email today?

[seleme]

Not true,

FINCEN already announced that they would go after the exchanges that haven´t registered about 2 weeks ago.
Google it.

They can go after any exchange that is based in USA or accept deposits and withdrawals on US soil.

Fonzie's having a hard time with this one. I guess he thinks Obama might issue a military invasion of Slovenia to take over Bitstamp.

Do you mind telling me why it is that non-US online gambling sites don't accept US customers?

Because USA explicitly made illegal that US costumers gamble on online sites and most of them have servers and domain registered with US companies.

USA did not make illegal that US citizens send money to Bitcoin exchanges yet nor have it issued any order for non-us exchanges to register with FINCEN.

If they do it, I'm pretty sure Bitstamp will do it, if they already did not just to be on the safe side as they have same issues as online gambling sites - servers and domain. They have enough money to do it.

[windjc]

We´ll talk about it later, right now the charts are reactin due to the possibilty that Chinese exchange are becomin useless.
We can talk about the Bitstamp Fincen issue when it´s about to drop from 300 to 100$

 

That's fine. I will be ready to buy about 6000 BTC once we hit $100. Fine with me.