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"The longer Bitcoin hangs out sub-$20K, the more fiat-funded crypto garbage disappears forever.
Burn it all down - I'll be stacking Sats."

https://twitter.com/stackhodler/status/1542843661523861504?cxt=HHwWgIC-0diIpOkqAAAA

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Because #Bitcoin whales succeeded in pumping Bitcoin close to $70K, it's much easier for them to unload more worthless Bitcoin at $20K, as those suckers who are buying think they're getting a bargain. These "bargain" hunters averaging down will eventually be known as bag holders.

Quite interesting
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"The longer Bitcoin hangs out sub-$20K, the more fiat-funded crypto garbage disappears forever.
Burn it all down - I'll be stacking Sats."

https://twitter.com/stackhodler/status/1542843661523861504?cxt=HHwWgIC-0diIpOkqAAAA

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Because #Bitcoin whales succeeded in pumping Bitcoin close to $70K, it's much easier for them to unload more worthless Bitcoin at $20K, as those suckers who are buying think they're getting a bargain. These "bargain" hunters averaging down will eventually be known as bag holders.

Quite interesting


Not really interesting, it is just the usual waffle from Peter
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"The longer Bitcoin hangs out sub-$20K, the more fiat-funded crypto garbage disappears forever.
Burn it all down - I'll be stacking Sats."

https://twitter.com/stackhodler/status/1542843661523861504?cxt=HHwWgIC-0diIpOkqAAAA

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Because #Bitcoin whales succeeded in pumping Bitcoin close to $70K, it's much easier for them to unload more worthless Bitcoin at $20K, as those suckers who are buying think they're getting a bargain. These "bargain" hunters averaging down will eventually be known as bag holders.

Quite interesting

Schiff is evidently unaware that some people actually use Bitcoin as money.  He would be entirely correct, if there were no purpose to Bitcoin other than buying it and waiting for “number go up”.

(inb4 Jay strawmans me as making a “bigblocker” argument for pointing out that Bitcoin is not a Ponzi...)

There are people with businesses that are dependent on Bitcoin, for purposes other than Bitcoin trading.  There are individuals who use Bitcoin just because it’s better money.  At some point, even if every regular of the Speculation forum were to mindrust, falling prices would slam into the wall of demand from people who need BTC to use BTC.  I do not only mean medium of exchange:  This also includes people who use Bitcoin as a store of value due to its non-speculative qualities as a store of value.

My perspective:  I used Bitcoin for years, and used this forum for years, before I ever even set foot in Speculation, let alone the Wall Observer.  Bitcoin made me care about its purchase power (“price” as a proxy for purchase power), after I was already in some degree economically dependent on it.  Even today, I am bored by the market unless either (a) I am seeking to buy more BTC, or (b) I am desperate to buy more BTC because I just lost my BTC, or (c) on the flipside, I need to spend some money.  Most of my WO posts are entirely off-topic.

How many are like me, in that aspect?

There is your absolute worst-case Bitcoin bottom:  Organic demand.

As I have said before, this is why I urged for years that slower growth was desirable.  It makes the market more stable—more robust.  It also makes the absolute worst-case bottom higher:  The notional price that will be reached if every speculative investor mindrusts out.

Useless coins have no bottom.  They can go to zero or negligible value, because nobody wants them for any purpose other than to sell for a higher price to the greater fool.

Because Bitcoin is Bitcoin, i.e. a scarce thing used as standard money, it is like gold.  Is Schiff worried about the bagholders for gold? Roll Eyes
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I will leave as an exercise to the reader the question of whether, if they could see America now, the signers of the American Declaration of Independence would run back to the king screaming, “Please forgive us!  Take us back!  We made a very big mistake!”

Just bear in mind that in that circumstance, they would likely also be able to see England now.
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"The longer Bitcoin hangs out sub-$20K, the more fiat-funded crypto garbage disappears forever.
Burn it all down - I'll be stacking Sats."

https://twitter.com/stackhodler/status/1542843661523861504?cxt=HHwWgIC-0diIpOkqAAAA

Peter schiff reply to this tweet:

Because #Bitcoin whales succeeded in pumping Bitcoin close to $70K, it's much easier for them to unload more worthless Bitcoin at $20K, as those suckers who are buying think they're getting a bargain. These "bargain" hunters averaging down will eventually be known as bag holders.

Quite interesting

Schiff is evidently unaware that some people actually use Bitcoin as money.  He would be entirely correct, if there were no purpose to Bitcoin other than buying it and waiting for “number go up”.

I know he is one of the top anti-BTC sentiment people, and many people just ignore his opinion. But still, I want to hear what he is saying because he is one of the successful investors out there. I do not agree with his opinion about BTC but still, there are many things to learn from a person like him. If we keep criticism aside then he is one of the few people I wants to follow to learn about finance.
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"The longer Bitcoin hangs out sub-$20K, the more fiat-funded crypto garbage disappears forever.
Burn it all down - I'll be stacking Sats."

https://twitter.com/stackhodler/status/1542843661523861504?cxt=HHwWgIC-0diIpOkqAAAA

Peter schiff reply to this tweet:

Because #Bitcoin whales succeeded in pumping Bitcoin close to $70K, it's much easier for them to unload more worthless Bitcoin at $20K, as those suckers who are buying think they're getting a bargain. These "bargain" hunters averaging down will eventually be known as bag holders.

Quite interesting

Schiff is evidently unaware that some people actually use Bitcoin as money.  He would be entirely correct, if there were no purpose to Bitcoin other than buying it and waiting for “number go up”.

I know he is one of the top anti-BTC sentiment people, and many people just ignore his opinion. But still, I want to hear what he is saying because he is one of the successful investors out there. I do not agree with his opinion about BTC but still, there are many things to learn from a person like him. If we keep criticism aside then he is one of the few people I wants to follow to learn about finance.

There are some useful things that Peter has to say..... just not about BTC.  His track record is basically a laughing stock in this regard
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