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December 04, 2022, 04:40:48 PM


Even with the government in their pocket




That useless tosser. Why doesn't he take a hammer, smash one of the windows behind himself and jump the fuck out.

There are not many individuals throughout history I'd ever wish suicide on, but the likes of Hitler and SBF are exceptions.
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That useless tosser. Why doesn't he take a hammer, smash one of the windows behind himself and jump the fuck out.

There are not many individuals throughout history I'd ever wish suicide on, but the likes of Hitler and SBF are exceptions.


What do you do that brings so much Joy and Kindness into the world to make it better? You and the others, except take loans and throw papas cash into it?  You are in no position to talk shit about someone who did atleast SOMETHING .. Havent you heard do not keep your KOINS on Exchanges? Have them on DEX and see how long your funds last there hahahahah
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December 04, 2022, 04:58:13 PM
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Two hundred thousand.
ATH in USD.
You know what to do.

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Why FTX's Sam Bankman-Fried is Right

Watch until the end  N  Y  K  N  Y  C  

An interesting take, I agree. Especially the part where he says that CZ should similarly destroy Binance....calls it an act of effective altruism, lol.
I don't think people calling it fraud is defamation, though, since Mr. Ray (new CEO) already said that there were inappropriate actions.
At least one Dem senator (Durbin) said pretty much the same (albeit I disagree with his generalizations).
That guy doesn't know s-t about volatility. If he has concern about bitcoin volatility, how about META and NFLX, lol?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmwLkjQl-vY

One word about paying lawyers...I was a part of Enron unsecured creditors list (basically, stupidly bought a bit at a "bargain" $2-3).
The recovery there was pretty good-around 30-32%, so Mr. Ray achieved something.
Typically, stock holders receive something that is close to nothing and getting those funds at or close to the end of 2002-2003 recession allowed me to reinvest the proceeds close to the bottom.
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December 04, 2022, 05:48:50 PM
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#haikuSunday

nothing else matters
its a fine day for hodlers
your keys, its your corn

the scammers will fail
rehypothecating corn
not understanding

twenty one million
thats all that will ever be
do not forget this
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December 04, 2022, 06:21:31 PM
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the Sunday morning wall report


local times frames are reclaiming the 50ma support levels with a 50ma/200ma four hour crossing on the horizon
all boiling down to the last few weeks here...feeling moderately bullish at the moment
see how the chop goes towards EOY
jib is out...tighten those sheets...steady at the helm

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December 04, 2022, 06:34:17 PM

This is not about promoting XRP rather telling its not a decentralized one.

Well, duh.

Meanwhile Tether (USDT) is dipping under 1$.

You consider it important to chime in to tell us about tether? 

 Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Some facts about a certain shitcoin ...
go where somebody cares


FTFY  - by adding a cute lil pic

Do it looks like I am promoting a coin by saying its not a decentralized one and is engaged is a law suit with SEC?

Yes.

Some facts about XRP in
{snip}
Key Takeaway from WO?
Sorry, you have the wrong place to promote shitcoins.
Do it looks like I am promoting a coin by saying its not a decentralized one and is engaged is a law suit with SEC?
Try to read things before jumping to conclusion.
What you wrote about that shitcoin is nothing new at all...

We could fill up the whole WO with facts about the shittiness of shitcoins..

You wanna explain the shortcomings of the remaining 20k shitcoins as well ?


If my maths and sciences are correct, that would be 1,000 pages of postenings.
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December 04, 2022, 07:07:39 PM
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The Bitcoin revolution - How it all began | DW Documentary
https://youtu.be/_gXAEdfIJN4
I watched the whole thing.. it’s about 42 minutes long, and the whole thing is decently good… except Holy fuck.. the way that Craig Wright was introduced into the video at around minute 30...  That was retarded to have a clip from him..  even though they pretty quickly debunked CSW’s claim to being Satoshi.. so the retarded part was ONLY about 1-2 minutes long.
Well to be frank I guess except for the Bitcoin die heart community this Craig Wright was a big thing, he almost convinced journalists that he's Satoshi so not giving this guy a couple of lines in this documentary about bitcoin would be an injustice. Actually, like you said, it not only refuted his claim but also made clear that anyone claiming to be Satoshi is a liar unless he signs a message with the private keys.

I am not objecting to having CSW in the presentation.  I am objecting to the way that it was done... I think that it should have been way more denigrating of CSW, even though I agree with the ultimate punchline..   (so yeah.. maybe my criticism is largely stylistic in regards to how they made that substantive point).

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....here's another scammer's story to bleed your ears :p

Where Did the Missing Money Go? Sam Bankman-Fried | WSJ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANYUFisRrF8

Yes.. 11.5 minutes - not easy to listen to.. .

Why FTX's Sam Bankman-Fried is Right

Watch until the end  N  Y  K  N  Y  C  

I can see that the guy is making some decent points.. but I have difficulties giving any benefit of the doubt to SBF (including that the presentation of SBF recognizing that SBF is talking out of both sides of his mouth.. and sure maybe SBF wants us to hate him.. the psychotic, flabby vegan and purported ethical altruist wannabe),

...and I also have some trouble with the Defi is fine talking point... , even though there is likely truth to the fact that SBF and even Alameda were paying back Defi loans while they were failing/refusing to pay back real world people and while they have so far been running off with the money..

and another thing that I have not been seeing too much is how various political donors are actually donating out their money rather than giving that money back to the (rightful owners) through the bankruptcy proceedings (for the creditors.. and the attorneys as was pointed out.. yeah attorneys make a lot and probably too much to sort through these kinds of quagmires of trying to get back money that can be gotten back, in theory.. or hopefully through the difficulties of the current system.. in which there are a lot of ways to criticize the current system.. but a siding with the criminal seems kind of strange.. even though yeah his attorney will need to do that at some point.. if the guy gets locked up or maybe he will choose to represent himself.. since SBF seems to think that he is so smart about presenting his issues (I mean lies) in the court of public opinion)... I know my last paragraph is rambling.. but fuck that guy SBF.. even though the video presentation does make some decent theoretical, factual and for the sake of argument points.
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Some facts about XRP in
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Key Takeaway from WO?
Sorry, you have the wrong place to promote shitcoins.
Do it looks like I am promoting a coin by saying its not a decentralized one and is engaged is a law suit with SEC?
Try to read things before jumping to conclusion.
What you wrote about that shitcoin is nothing new at all...

We could fill up the whole WO with facts about the shittiness of shitcoins..

You wanna explain the shortcomings of the remaining 20k shitcoins as well ?


If my maths and sciences are correct, that would be 1,000 pages of postenings.

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Some thoughts here. Funny how the doomiest and gloomiest forecasts always (well frequently, I'm a bit exaggerating) come true but the boldest and bulliest always get denied:

Did we reach $100k? no
ATH should happen only after a parabolic price increase! it turns out that not always
Bitcoin can't fall below the previous cycle's ATH? it just did
BTC cycle is exactly 4 years long, with ATH being reached in December? nope
Bear market can't end before the halving? true so far
We're going down to $9-10k this cycle? possible, can't be ruled out completely

So why can't Bitcoin just screw the bears now by breaking the pattern by going exponential and propelling itself into, say, $30-40k -ish area and ending bear market prematurely?  Cool
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P.S. Gay x-mas card time soon!  Grin
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IMHO, it is a bit illogical to suggest a 200K as the next ATH as we should either be in a top deceleration trend (1.1K to 20K to 69K to maybe 120-140K) or in a usage acceleration trend the peak should be much higher at, say, 500K. Basically, the push from decrease in issuance (block reward) should be smaller in each cycle, but at some point we can get into the S-curve in adoption, hence the possibility of a bigger number.

200K does not seem to fit any discernible pattern. Sure, it could happen, just based on the randomness.

EDIT: re ending the bear market..there are two schools of thought about it...one says that once the market is +20%, the bear market is over..another says that bear market continues until you are over prior ATH (I like this one more)...therefore, 30-40K would not be the bear market end, but an intermittent rally (just like in 2019 when we went to about 70% of prior ATH). I would welcome the rally to 68.9X0.7=48.23K anytime, though.
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December 04, 2022, 07:58:38 PM

IMHO, it is a bit illogical to suggest a 200K as the next ATH as we should either be in a top deceleration trend (1.1K to 20K to 69K to maybe 120-130K) or in a usage acceleration trend the peak should be much higher at, say, 500K. Basically, the push from decrease in issuance (block reward) should be smaller in each cycle, but at some point we can get into the S-curve in adoption, hence the possibility of a bigger number.

200K does not seem to fit any discernible pattern. Sure, it could happen, just based on the randomness.


Halving suggests that the price should at least double so $69k x2  = ~$140k. That would be fair price for the miners and all but we know that Bitcoin doesn't give a damn...  Grin
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IMHO, it is a bit illogical to suggest a 200K as the next ATH as we should either be in a top deceleration trend (1.1K to 20K to 69K to maybe 120-130K) or in a usage acceleration trend the peak should be much higher at, say, 500K. Basically, the push from decrease in issuance (block reward) should be smaller in each cycle, but at some point we can get into the S-curve in adoption, hence the possibility of a bigger number.

200K does not seem to fit any discernible pattern. Sure, it could happen, just based on the randomness.


Halving suggests that the price should at least double so $69k x2  = ~$140k. That would be fair price for the miners and all but we know that Bitcoin doesn't give a damn...  Grin

why would it? it's a halving of reward, not doubling of the price. The bulk of btc is already issued and the breakeven for miners is about 15-16K (this one will be doubling, sure).
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