Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion

[ChartBuddy]

Explanation

[JayJuanGee]

 Apparently there are 3 prevailing theories for the direction of BTC.
 1 BTC tanks further and doesn't recover to a new ATH until 2028
 2 BTC has bottomed and we make a new ATH at the end of 2024 and peak bull in 2025 (traditional cycle) *
 3 BTC hasn't bottomed (a black swan event causes further declines) but we still make a new ATH at the end of 2024 and peak bull in 2025 (traditional cycle with a near death experience? lol)
* bitboy's prediction.
 It's a lot of sideways and maybe some down followed by some up.  
 HODL

I think scenario 2 or 3 are most likely. I’m leaning towards scenario 3, I think more pain due to the situation the world financial markets are in. The US haven’t even admitted we’re in a recession yet.

I agree. Scenarios 2 and 3 are the most probable, with 3 being the one I'm preparing myself for. As for the years he mentions (for 2 and 3), I believe they are spot on (i.e., ATH in late 2024 and mega-bull in 2025). Scenario 1's ATH/bull of 2029-2030 is far too bearish and will be a total break from the 4-year cycle.

We are talking about 2-3 years of waiting, which is nothing really. And if scenario 3 is the one that plays out, 2023 will be the perfect year to accumulate cheap corn.

There's gotta be some other reasonably plausible scenarios in there, too..  No?.. but hey I am not going to draw them out... .. and sure, maybe part of Bitboy's point would be to set forth a kind of framework to point out what he considers the most likely scenarios that are being presented at the time that he is mapping them out.  

Generally speaking.. no problem with that.

That's both not going to happen, and it is dumb.

We can agree that it’s not going to happen.
Why is it dumb though? Care to elaborate?

Holy fuck.. I already had explained this point, which largely boils down to assessing the extent to which a system would be completely thrown out when it seems to be sufficiently and adequately addressing issues that it had intended to address regarding account farming, scams, spams, shills etc...

Yeah it does not perform any kind of perfect job, but you are largely just proclaiming that the solution is to scrap it with a kind of implied solution that would be go back to pre-merit-system status.  There might be other reasons that it is dumb too.. but I had already described the essence of the matter, and yeah, maybe you disagree with the facts.. so then you better fucking convince theymos about the supposed problem that you perceive.

Easy solutions need to be smart and practical too, and also to have the potential of at least not making things worse.  What you propose seems to make things worse... and probably because you fail/refuse to see that the current merit system is already providing a benefit in terms of reducing scammers, spammers and shills - which seems to be most of the reason that it was introduced.

The solution to abolish the merit system altogether is very simple. I don’t understand why it needs to be practical, yet alone “smart”.
I don’t “fail” or “refuse” to see that it’s corrupted, and that it serves one purpose and one only. Enabling scammers.

I doubt that theymos even close to perceives it the way that you supposedly do.  Furthermore, you seem to have little to no appreciation regarding the value of goodwill that is created on a forum and the sometimes balancing that is attempted when change goes into effect.  Sure maybe if theymos  was more rash (as you seem to want him to be), then he would scare away longer term members by treating them like shit... and just say that we are all starting over.  Maybe theymos should sell the forum to Elon in order that the rug could just be pulled.. who gives any shits about the "feelings"  or any of the work that was put into the forum by long-term members.. fuck them...,everyone can just start over, right?  Let's all start from zero.  Is that what you want, you diptwat?

It is you that is stuck, repeating your positions, making me repeat myself too, dumbing down everybody in the process.

Ok.  We don't need to continue to the back and forth then, you dweeb.

Do you deny the fact that we have the phenomena of merit farming and merit circle jerking? Don’t go far.

I don't deny that there are issues related to those areas... but they are likely not even close to as BIG as you are making them out to be... and there is still largely a perception from those who matter in these here parts, that the benefits of the whole system outweigh the costs... and overall the forum is a better place by the current system as is, in contrast to just removing the merit system.. Don't you realize those same complaints were already made in the beginning of the merit system in during quite a bit of 2018?  Yes, we are coming upon almost 5 years (anniversary) of the merit system.

For shills, spammers and scammers are on the rise because of that very reason. Fake merit trust.

Maybe some tweaks to the system is being considered?  Maybe rotating merit sources?  I don't know.  I don't really care that much about your seemingly passion issue.

We can agree to disagree on this point.  

We can agree that they wiped your kernel … again.

We can agree that you don't know shit.

You are a brand new member who has no reputation anyhow.  You can go to any platform to build your reputation, especially if you are starting from zero.  How long have you been here?  like a week, right?  I just looked at your profile.. registration date 12/21/22. One week ago, as I type this post.

Go on.  Deny it.  You fuck.

I am not opposed to the idea of theymos rotating merit sources, especially if he believes that some of us have accumulated too many merits and we are likely receiving way more credibility than we deserve..

Listen fuck-head, I never mentioned anything about rotating merit sources. Let me spell it out for you: A-B-O-L-I-S-H

I mentioned it, and I am part of the conversation in which I am part of. There you have it.. definitional truth.  

You do you.

Awe.  What a cutie!!!

It's a statement to acknowledge where we be actually at - as I type this post.

In the middle of no-where apparently.

I don't think so.  We are in a specific location, which is a mostly bitcoin-oriented thread on a public forum.  Get a grip.

You don't bother me... that much.. being annoyed from time to time is part of any interactions.

Maybe a little then? Come on, you life-less twat, at least give me that much!

Nope.

Last thing, I retract that you have some use on the WO. The damage you’re causing, now seems to me, far worse that any useful directives you might input.

To the extent that your opinion even matters.  

[ChartBuddy]

Explanation

[ChartBuddy]

Explanation

[ChartBuddy]

Explanation

[ChartBuddy]

Explanation

[montaga]

Quite funny from both sides.

'How dare you?!' Humiliated Andrew Tate snaps back at Greta Thunberg after teenage eco-warrior says the Big Brother contestant-turned-influencer has 'small d*** energy' and should 'get a life' in savage putdown

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11579157/Greta-Thunberg-takes-Andrew-Tate-says-toxic-influencer-small-d-k-energy.html

Am I the only one sensing some weird sexual tension between these two and is just my dirty mind?

I think this interaction pretty much seals the idea that Greta Thunberg's Dad is the one in charge of her social accounts.  It's pretty crazy how a Dad using his disabled daughter to attack climate change got such a massive response around the world.  Why have I heard of this girl?  I really don't understand what she's ever done besides criticize climate change with knowledge that was obvious out of her grasp.  Sure, it's a feel good story, but it was a 15 minutes of fame thing.  Now that everyone should be very clear she's a puppet being used by her Dad to further his agenda, I hope we can let these limelight seekers fade away.

More likely a bot is in charge of her social accounts.

Quite funny from both sides.

'How dare you?!' Humiliated Andrew Tate snaps back at Greta Thunberg after teenage eco-warrior says the Big Brother contestant-turned-influencer has 'small d*** energy' and should 'get a life' in savage putdown
(https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/12/28/22/66001959-0-image-m-8_1672265662971.jpg) (FORUM: disabled on this page for security.)
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11579157/Greta-Thunberg-takes-Andrew-Tate-says-toxic-influencer-small-d-k-energy.html

Am I the only one sensing some weird sexual tension between these two and is just my dirty mind?

Its not a sexual tension, the guy with 33 cars response to the girl born Jan 3, 03  (If DoB is not faked)

Money grows on trees, family-trees.

[BlackBoss_]

CaseBitcoin (useful)


On this date, 29 December, today price is -65% from this date last year.

The -65% of Bitcoin price means it is not too far from its bottom in this 2022 - 2023 bear market. Historically Bitcoin usually is corrected roughly -80% in past bear markets.
So have a good date BTChodlers!

ROI charts
The longer times like 3 years + you hold bitcoins, the better ROI you will get. If you look at 5-year, 10-year, no other investment can compare with Bitcoin.
So happy holding everyone!

Last 3 days and 2022 year ends
So happy new year!

[ChartBuddy]

Explanation

[shahzadafzal]

They will never know… how will they know?



https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/zxb5au/americans_need_education_as_much_as_they_need/

[Unknown Op]

TWITTER

[ChartBuddy]

Explanation

[ChartBuddy]

Explanation

[cygan]

✂

who of you hat wearers would be interested in an individual ColdKey hat edition?
some info & another releases from ColdKey could be found here:
[ANN] History Coldkey - A testimony to Bitcoin - Time for change has come !
[ANN / WTS] Bas Coldkey -- Reeeee: Collectible Cards of Bitcointalk Users.

i would first like to know/see only with it how big the resonance would be

BTCump
for those who missed it on the last page

 I may be slightly biased but I think it's a wonderful idea

since some users here may no longer look in, it is certainly difficult to reach all hat wearers...
then i might have to list them all here and hope that they all use the bitcointalk telegram bot from TryNinja and get triggered by it
and there are since the time also certainly new hats added

okay guys... here we go:

Code:

jojo69, kurious, r1s2g3, El duderino_, infofront, bitcoinPsycho, HI-TEC99, Elwar, lightfoot, jonoiv,
Ludwig Von, QuestionAuthority, Kylapoiss, soullyG, goldkingcoiner, starmman, Icygreen, JayJuanGee, Rosewater Foundation, Toxic2040,
Globb0, Arriemoller, Searing, xyzzy099, Speculatoross, ivomm, Phil_S, bitserve, roycilik, BinaryReign,
BobLawblaw, Paashaas, bones261, JimboToronto, Ibian, itod, AlcoHoDL, mOgliE, strawbs, yefi,
empowering, izanagi narukami, Bitcoinaire, Torque, kirreev070, Wekkel, cAPSLOCK, crypmike, mfort312, Totscha,
PoolMinor, Gyrsur, BTCMILLIONAIRE, podyx, julian071, Hexah, savetherainforest, Last of the V8s, nutildah, Spaceman_Spiff_Original,
nanobtc, Roombot, bitcoinminer42, afbitcoins, erre, luckygenough56, DireWolfM14, Dabs, VB1001, HairyMaclairy,
Karatma1, Hueristic, xhomerx10, Cryptotourist, BitcoinGirl Club, bitebits, machasm, rjclarke2000, Willhelm, dogebearman,
becoin, sheenshane, JSRAW, StartupAnalyst, fillippone, Lauda, theyoungmillionaire, vapourminer, vroom, dandannn,
Biodom, GreatArkansas, fluidjax, LFC_Bitcoin, mindrust, kingcolex, asche, bitmover, LoyceV, jbreher,
d_eddie, DoublerHunter, FractalUniverse, ChinkyEyes, ErisDiscordia, gentlemand, Lambie Slayer, CryptoNeed, minerjones, markj113,
600watt, BlindMayorBitcorn, pawanjain, P_Shep, Royse777, Kenzawak, asu, MrFreeRoMan, realsteelboy, DeathAngel,
RapTarX, Tranthidung, SuperTA, _javi_, serveria.com, rdbase, th3nolo, OutOfMemory, Findingnemo, Olegya199,
efialtis, cabalism13, ChuckBuck, dragonvslinux, spooderman, psycodad, philipma1957, FullNode, INDYMONEY, BlackHatCoiner,
mikeywith, Krubster

these are now all users listed in the graphic. some are certainly no longer present here in the forum and for the others i hope that they have just been triggered

who doesn't find his nick in the list and still shows up here in the forum with a hat-avatar, is welcome to contact me
would like to then ask all interested to send me a dm

[nutildah]

[Antisthenes]

~ you are really serious about proposing to meet..

Aren't you the smartest person (the most special unique lil snowflake) that I never did meet?

Compared to you? Definetely.
Compared to other human beings? Not really.

Thank god that I never did meet uie-pooie.

That’s technically impossible.
God? Well hello there Mr. Gee.

~ so then you better fucking convince theymos about the supposed problem that you perceive.

I just might give it a go.

I doubt that theymos even close to perceives it the way that you supposedly do.  Furthermore, you seem to have little to no appreciation regarding the value of goodwill that is created on a forum and the sometimes balancing that is attempted when change goes into effect.

So now we’re talking about theymos, for himself, right?
To be fair, I think the merit system was imposed to him by the alphabet agencies.

who gives any shits about the "feelings"  or any of the work that was put into the forum by long-term members.. fuck them...,everyone can just start over, right?  Let's all start from zero.  Is that what you want, you diptwat?

Well, you apparently don’t - how could you? Humans might.
I never said to delete user posts btw.

Don't you realize those same complaints were already made in the beginning of the merit system in during quite a bit of 2018?

So? What’s your fucking point? I’ll spell out W-R-O-N-G any day of the year.

Yes, we are coming upon almost 5 years (anniversary) of the merit system.

Five years too many.

I don't know.

That’s right, you don’t, you need a soul for that.

We can agree that you don't know shit.

Mr. Gee! Such a pleasure, not.

Go on.  Deny it.  You fuck.

Four years and counting.
#I.deny

To the extent that your opinion even matters.

Well not to you, you dumb ass!

Tell me about it.
Don’t you have some shitcoin thread to go and shill your guts out?

[nutildah]

Don’t you have some shitcoin thread to go and shill your guts out?

WTF happened to you for real

This forum seriously breaks people

[eXPHorizon]

[nutildah]

Well since you asked, yes I do have a Shitcoin thread but nobody visits the forum for information anymore so I gave up shilling here. Its all bounty hunting, sig campaigning, and a handful of actual bitcoin enthusiasts, a few of which continue to post in this very thread.

Back when times were good SHITCOINs (among other tokens of mine) used to fly off the shelves and I never had to shill anything... They would sell like hotcakes on their own accord. I was seriously surprised at the amount of demand there was for "vintage assets", aka proto-NFTs created before it was a popular thing to do. Of course interest has died down along with the broader crypto market but I'm pretty sure it will all come roaring back at some point.



I thought it would be funny to run a Shitcoin signature campaign, and it was indeed very funny to me, but I forgot how humorless this place can be sometimes.

Nowadays I mainly stick to Twitter since that's where the real action is and I have my own Telegram group where I've managed to attract a competent group of bright, positive-minded people that have helped make shuffling through the bear market all the more withstandable.

[goldkingcoiner]

Don’t you have some shitcoin thread to go and shill your guts out?

WTF happened to you for real

This forum seriously breaks people

He insults everyone. He insulted me too so I just put him on my ignore list with all the other loud children.