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Question: How far will this leg take us?
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December 03, 2014, 03:21:34 AM

No prison time for Bernard von Not Haus!

Satoshi can sleep better now.

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" the judge ordered the federal government to return to its owners the millions of dollars of metal held by Liberty Dollar for its clients"
edit2: This just opened the door for a metal backed crypto coin in the US.
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December 03, 2014, 03:34:37 AM

I've been away for a couple of weeks, can anyone confirm this?

https://twitter.com/wiz/status/537464186079416322

Is there hope?!
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December 03, 2014, 03:43:26 AM

I've been away for a couple of weeks, can anyone confirm this?

https://twitter.com/wiz/status/537464186079416322

Is there hope?!



*confirmed* Cheesy   sureeee bud

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December 03, 2014, 03:59:21 AM

I've been away for a couple of weeks, can anyone confirm this?

https://twitter.com/wiz/status/537464186079416322

Is there hope?!

...no?

They supposedly recovered 200 000 coins, 650 000 coins are missing.  So unless you for some reason are very high up on the list of creditors, them coins are gone. Kraken is not going to empty their stash for Gox customers.
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December 03, 2014, 04:00:55 AM


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December 03, 2014, 04:17:52 AM

No prison time for Bernard von Not Haus!

Satoshi can sleep better now.

edit:
" the judge ordered the federal government to return to its owners the millions of dollars of metal held by Liberty Dollar for its clients"
edit2: This just opened the door for a metal backed crypto coin in the US.

ok where is coingen when you need one Huh i want to create my own coin now...
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December 03, 2014, 04:23:38 AM

No prison time for Bernard von Not Haus!

Satoshi can sleep better now.

edit:
" the judge ordered the federal government to return to its owners the millions of dollars of metal held by Liberty Dollar for its clients"
edit2: This just opened the door for a metal backed crypto coin in the US.

ok where is coingen when you need one Huh i want to create my own coin now...


that will cost you ! Cheesy
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December 03, 2014, 04:25:52 AM

I've been away for a couple of weeks, can anyone confirm this?
https://twitter.com/wiz/status/537464186079416322
Is there hope?!
...no?
They supposedly recovered 200 000 coins, 650 000 coins are missing.  So unless you for some reason are very high up on the list of creditors, them coins are gone. Kraken is not going to empty their stash for Gox customers.

Partly wishful thinking... some of the victims desperately want those bitcoins to be returned as bitcoin, and Kraken obviously wants that too (and force all victime to open an account with them). But there is no decision yet.  AFAIK the law requires all refunds to be in yen. Kobayashi said that he will look into it, and that has been "translated" into "will do".
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December 03, 2014, 04:35:59 AM

How long before the bitcoin price in USD exceeds the page number of this thread? My prediction is July 15, 2015.
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December 03, 2014, 04:42:54 AM

No prison time for Bernard von Not Haus!

Satoshi can sleep better now.

edit:
" the judge ordered the federal government to return to its owners the millions of dollars of metal held by Liberty Dollar for its clients"
edit2: This just opened the door for a metal backed crypto coin in the US.

ok where is coingen when you need one Huh i want to create my own coin now...


that will cost you ! Cheesy


cost is low..., its high risk, ultimate reward kind of investment if you know how to do it right.
the problem is coingen generated coin usually died in one week.   Shocked

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December 03, 2014, 04:50:35 AM

I've been away for a couple of weeks, can anyone confirm this?
https://twitter.com/wiz/status/537464186079416322
Is there hope?!
...no?
They supposedly recovered 200 000 coins, 650 000 coins are missing.  So unless you for some reason are very high up on the list of creditors, them coins are gone. Kraken is not going to empty their stash for Gox customers.

Partly wishful thinking... some of the victims desperately want those bitcoins to be returned as bitcoin, and Kraken obviously wants that too (and force all victime to open an account with them). But there is no decision yet.  AFAIK the law requires all refunds to be in yen. Kobayashi said that he will look into it, and that has been "translated" into "will do".

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December 03, 2014, 04:56:18 AM

You think there will be a dip today because of the auction?
If so, how deep?
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December 03, 2014, 05:00:56 AM


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December 03, 2014, 05:17:17 AM

You think there will be a dip today because of the auction?
If so, how deep?

how deep is your love Huh
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December 03, 2014, 05:52:42 AM

You think there will be a dip today because of the auction?
If so, how deep?

Guess, just for guessing:

To have a positive effect, this auction would have to repeat the outcome of the previous one: a single winner, who can convince the market that he bought for a "good price" and does not intend to dump the coins.

However, that seems a bit unlikely, because:

* There are almost twice as many coins being auctioned this time, and twice as many coming in a few months.

* There seems to be much less excitement this time about those coins. (Last time, some even argued that those coins would have extra value as collectibles -- "the" coins from "the" Silk Road -- and/or for having been blessed by the US government. I have seen no such claims this time.)

* Therefore, it is more likely that, this time, there will be several winners.

* There is even a small chance that some lots will be unsold. (AFAIK, the USMS can ignore bids for any reason, including them being too low.)

* If there are several winners, some of them may remain unknown.

* If there are several winners, or unknown winners, or unsold lots, the market will probably assume that the coins were bought below market -- suggesting that the big players are bearish;

* If the market thinks that some of the coins were bought below market, it will fear that they be dumped for profit.

Moreover, the price increase after the previous outcome was announced only reversed the drop that occurred when the auction was announced.  There was no such drop this time, so why should there be a recovery?

Thus, if I had to guess, I would guess "no effect, or a drop".
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December 03, 2014, 06:01:42 AM

PS, about the distribution of MtGOX spoils:

They supposedly recovered 200 000 coins, 650 000 coins are missing.  So unless you for some reason are very high up on the list of creditors, them coins are gone. Kraken is not going to empty their stash for Gox customers.

There is no queue, except that defaulted employee salaries are to be paid first, then suppliers etc., then the clients, and the managers last.  The first two have been paid already, and there will be nothing left for the managers anyway.

Among the clients, Kobayashi will first gather and validate all the claims, then he will divide the remaining assets proportional to the claims.  So everybody should receive around 20% of their claims.  However, it is not clear yet how the claims will be defined.
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December 03, 2014, 06:49:27 AM

PS, about the distribution of MtGOX spoils:

They supposedly recovered 200 000 coins, 650 000 coins are missing.  So unless you for some reason are very high up on the list of creditors, them coins are gone. Kraken is not going to empty their stash for Gox customers.

There is no queue, except that defaulted employee salaries are to be paid first, then suppliers etc., then the clients, and the managers last.  The first two have been paid already, and there will be nothing left for the managers anyway.

Among the clients, Kobayashi will first gather and validate all the claims, then he will divide the remaining assets proportional to the claims.  So everybody should receive around 20% of their claims.  However, it is not clear yet how the claims will be defined.
Okay, sounds good.

I've got a little under 20 goxbtc, where can I file a claim?

Sorry to be degenerate but the mtgox site with all it's legal lingo is confusing as fuck, and I've found nowhere that explains it easily.
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December 03, 2014, 07:28:06 AM

I drew some pretty lines today.....lets keep tomorrows price at an average of $385 or greater.



https://i.imgur.com/eliW0ms.png

I asked for $385 yesterday and I was about 12 cents off. Good job everyone Cheesy

I drew some more pretty lines today. I expect to see $385.65 tomorrow and a slow steady gain until we reach an upward break out by December 15th as long as the auction doesn't dump on us....

Also for the long term traders like myself, the December 2nd 3D MACD is green and UP Cheesy


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