[Work in progess] Burnins Avalon Chip to mining board service

[rebelrat]

I'd love the idea if burnin agrees  as well.But first things first : let's see the chip and performance and decide after.
We're also waiting a reply from him regarding conversion to bitfury boards .

This would indeed be a nice solution after all: If the 55nm chips were to sell immediately, have good specs and reasonable prices and burnin could assemble them without any hassle (of course any extra work should be  paid from customers). Burnin, what are your thoughts on this?

I'm no engineer, but surely some changes would have to be made to fully exploit the chips potential, whether it be voltage changes or cooling etc?  In any case I'd be happy to let Burnin decide if he'd like to go this way or the bitfury route.
If all is as Avalon claim then it would make a nice clean solution though, if somewhat late of course..no telling how late they'll be with that chip & samples etc.

You want to do business with Avalon again - after all that a happened, and after all the financial losses many incurred???
Are you asking for a repeat performance???

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[JHenderson]

Someone has news, from bitburners zefir batch 2?
Someone got shipped?

+1

Not for me, order #558  Zefir' Batch #2. Still says processing on webpage. Will that state change when they ship ?  

My order still shows "Processing"

Batch 2 chips were delivered a little over 2 weeks ago.

Burnin,

Could you provide some status on Batch 2?

[Schrankwand]

You want to do business with Avalon again - after all that a happened, and after all the financial losses many incurred???
Are you asking for a repeat performance???

Calculatory losses. Actually. I actually won money, since I bought the BTC for Chips at 86$ and sold at 141 after the refunding...

[jlsminingcorp]

You want to do business with Avalon again - after all that a happened, and after all the financial losses many incurred???
Are you asking for a repeat performance???

Calculatory losses. Actually. I actually won money, since I bought the BTC for Chips at 86$ and sold at 141 after the refunding...

It is a concern though isn't it? I mean we're all keen to find a solution that supports burnin in his future projects and helps him to limit his losses (and ours) from the current mess. He's been a hero through all of this. I just wonder if rushing back to BitSynCom is the best way to move forward? You'd have thought that ordering chips from a foundry, splitting them, packaging them and sending them to customers would be fairly straightforward (at least within 5 months). However, they have clearly had various unforeseen problems with this. You wonder what kind of problems they might encounter sending gen2 chips out, even if they aren't a pre-order.

[FlappySocks]

As much as I don't wish to do business with BitSynCom anymore, if gen2 chips really are a direct replacement, and can put new life into BitBurners that would otherwise be junk, then I'm cautiously interested.

I wont pay bullshit prices tho.  I'd rather have my 50% back than send BitSynCom more money only to hope and pray for ROI.

[dani]

As much as I don't wish to do business with BitSynCom anymore, if gen2 chips really are a direct replacement, and can put new life into BitBurners that would otherwise be junk, then I'm cautiously interested.

I wont pay bullshit prices tho.  I'd rather have my 50% back than send BitSynCom more money only to hope and pray for ROI.

+1. But then again avalon won't be cheap if we look at the past (don't count batch1) and they have no reason to give a good prices except for "compensation" of us. Compensation was given through refunds, so they are done (from their point of view) and to rely on good willing for good prices.. in case of yifu.. oh come on, I don't see this. :/

[FlappySocks]

Well I guess non of us really know what is going through Yifu's mind.  Lets just hope gen2 will become some sort of peace offering.  He needs to do something to restore credibility, for his own sake.

[Schrankwand]

You want to do business with Avalon again - after all that a happened, and after all the financial losses many incurred???
Are you asking for a repeat performance???

Calculatory losses. Actually. I actually won money, since I bought the BTC for Chips at 86$ and sold at 141 after the refunding...

It is a concern though isn't it? I mean we're all keen to find a solution that supports burnin in his future projects and helps him to limit his losses (and ours) from the current mess. He's been a hero through all of this. I just wonder if rushing back to BitSynCom is the best way to move forward? You'd have thought that ordering chips from a foundry, splitting them, packaging them and sending them to customers would be fairly straightforward (at least within 5 months). However, they have clearly had various unforeseen problems with this. You wonder what kind of problems they might encounter sending gen2 chips out, even if they aren't a pre-order.

Of course it is. At this point in time, im actually meandring whether or not staying witha BFL order ight have been a better choice. I tink both companies did not really get themselves into real honorable positions though...

[jlsminingcorp]

You want to do business with Avalon again - after all that a happened, and after all the financial losses many incurred???
Are you asking for a repeat performance???

Calculatory losses. Actually. I actually won money, since I bought the BTC for Chips at 86$ and sold at 141 after the refunding...

It is a concern though isn't it? I mean we're all keen to find a solution that supports burnin in his future projects and helps him to limit his losses (and ours) from the current mess. He's been a hero through all of this. I just wonder if rushing back to BitSynCom is the best way to move forward? You'd have thought that ordering chips from a foundry, splitting them, packaging them and sending them to customers would be fairly straightforward (at least within 5 months). However, they have clearly had various unforeseen problems with this. You wonder what kind of problems they might encounter sending gen2 chips out, even if they aren't a pre-order.

Of course it is. At this point in time, im actually meandring whether or not staying witha BFL order ight have been a better choice. I tink both companies did not really get themselves into real honorable positions though...

Yes indeed, neither company has been ideal so far . As the saying goes "once bitten, twice shy" - maybe the newcomers will be a better bet, but who knows.

[RoadStress]

I changed my boards from my PC to my laptop and after 20-30 mins of running i start getting this message:

Avalon: Discarding 2 bytes from buffer

What's wrong?

[madmax_ger]

Hi burnin,

I understand that informations given too early can end up in a mess, but I'd really like to know whats the current roadmap and I think many others need to know as well in order to make the right decisions, as far as possible. I have 2 orders open and I'm trying to get the chips refunded since Avalons latest newsletter.

As interest on the BitFuryBurners seems to be strong enough and the chips are partially in-hand, I guess you're working on these boards already.

Can you confirm you will be producing BitBurner for Avalon Gen2 Chips, too?

I hope I didn't miss something important in this thread regarding this.

[Bogart]

After a long journey through the mail, I received my BitBurner XX today.

I've tried mining on a Pi and on my Atom laptop (Ubuntu).  It mines but performance seems low.  cgminer looks like this:

Code:

cgminer version 3.4.2 - Started: [2013-09-10 19:22:54]
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 (5s):196.0M (avg):2.273Gh/s | A:416  R:32  HW:0  WU:33.4/m
 ST: 2  SS: 0  NB: 3  LW: 745  GF: 0  RF: 0
 Connected to mmpool.bitparking.com diff 16 with stratum as user blah
 Block: 001bde38c9d8e8f1...  Diff:86.9M  Started: [19:34:32]  Best share: 507
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 [P]ool management [S]ettings [D]isplay options [Q]uit
 BTB 0: 44C 282 1225mV | 2.445G/2.273Gh/s | A:416 R:32 HW:0 WU: 33.4/m
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

 [2013-09-10 19:35:03] Rejected 07c6e3be Diff 32/16 BTB 0
 [2013-09-10 19:35:55] Accepted 037c9b80 Diff 73/16 BTB 0
 [2013-09-10 19:36:11] Accepted 050a295f Diff 50/16 BTB 0
 [2013-09-10 19:36:58] Accepted 043e8c3c Diff 60/16 BTB 0
 [2013-09-10 19:37:21] Accepted 0977444c Diff 27/16 BTB 0
 [2013-09-10 19:38:28] Accepted 06ec884b Diff 36/16 BTB 0
 [2013-09-10 19:38:39] Accepted 060fdfff Diff 42/16 BTB 0
 [2013-09-10 19:38:56] Accepted 00813d5b Diff 507/16 BTB 0
 [2013-09-10 19:39:28] Accepted 05422507 Diff 48/16 BTB 0
 [2013-09-10 19:39:33] Accepted 0ba7c080 Diff 21/16 BTB 0

Any ideas what I should look at?

[RoadStress]

Any ideas what I should look at?

What settings are you using?

[kano]

Looks like the firmware thinks it's only got 10 chips instead of 20.

Also, but unrelated, you're running it at default 282MHz
Try putting that up to at least 350 (350 for me works fine on the default 1200mv with hardly any errors and little affect on the temperature)
e.g. --avalon-options 115200:2:10:d:350

Me, 5.25 days
 BTB 0: 52C 350 1223mV | 7.755G/6.959Gh/s | A:740352 R:5406 HW: 40 WU: 97.2/m

It's Spring now here in Aus and I've already had a 30C day and a 29C day - so I've been staying on 350 for a while now.

Either way, try --avalon-options 115200:2:10:d:350 and see what happens

[Bogart]

Ah, yeah I didn't have --avalon-options at all, or any options other than the pool login.

Including --avalon-options 115200:2:10:d:350, it's running at 350MHz now, but still seemingly at half strength.

I wonder how I'd look at the firmware and its chip count...

[Bogart]

When I run with --debug I see tons of:

Code:

 [2013-09-10 20:26:11] BTB0: Get avalon read got err 0
 [2013-09-10 20:26:11] BTB0: Get avalon read got err 0
 [2013-09-10 20:26:11] BTB0: Get avalon read got err 0

...and so on.  That's not normal, is it?

[kano]

When I run with --debug I see tons of:

Code:

 [2013-09-10 20:26:11] BTB0: Get avalon read got err 0
 [2013-09-10 20:26:11] BTB0: Get avalon read got err 0
 [2013-09-10 20:26:11] BTB0: Get avalon read got err 0

...and so on.  That's not normal, is it?

That's normal.
0 = no error.

I've got a 1.0.2 firmware that forces the 20 chip count
I'll PM you a link.

[Bogart]

Thanks.

How do I flash it?

[kano]

Thanks.

How do I flash it?

That made me laugh

OK ... what hardware you got.

[Bogart]

Thanks.

How do I flash it?

That made me laugh

OK ... what hardware you got.

I'm not sure what's needed really.  Some sort of JTAG interface I guess?

I have a "Xilinx Platform Cable USB" thing with some adapter cables and an adapter board that says "Design By Ngzhang".

I also have a Seeed Bus Pirate.

I've never actually used either.

I would have an AVR Dragon if someone hadn't apparently thefted it out of my mailbox.