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October 07, 2017, 07:35:33 AM
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CROSS POST FROM SLACK - SNAPSHOT DATE & TIME & EXCHANGE INFORMATION:


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Good evening everyone (in Canada it is dinner time ). You all have been extremely patient while we have put together the final pieces of the snapshot and launch. We will have an exchange partner with us and that exchange is Cryptopia. Between the professionalism shown in negotiations with us and their growing positive reputation as an exchange, we felt this was an ideal pivot to make for the network. The reason why we are not using Bittrex is due to the changing regulatory landscape and the internal decisions that stemmed from that (more background checks on coins to be listed, legal requirements and potential lawyers, increased site security and KYC and AML applications). All of these changes put listing a new coin / administering an air drop to a much lower priority from Bittrex's perspective.

We are still on very good terms with Bittrex due to the hard work we put in leading up to this as we went through a thorough vetting process with them between @coins101 and myself.  This work we put will hopefully get us in a position to be listed with Bittrex once Helium launches without hitch. We continue to progress conversations with Bittrex to advance this long term goal for Helium.

About the snapshot:

The snapshot will take place on October 10th, at 10AM NZ local time (Cryptopia is a NZ exchange). The block height is 1657200 and should fall within the listed time-frame. You will want to have your Spreadcoins (SPR) in your local Spreadcoin wallet or deposited at Cryptopia in the Spreadcoin wallet in your account. Cryptopia will be assisting with the air drop of Helium coins so if you are holding your SPR at Cryptopia you will be credited an equal amount of Helium coins once the air drop commences.  

In summary, you will have to two options to prepare for the Oct 10th, 10AM NZ local time snapshot of the Spreadcoin blockchain (please note the TZ and adjust for your local TZ):

Holding your SPR at Cryptopia
Holding your SPR in your local SPR wallet

Details on the launch and specifics regarding Cryptopia and holding your SPR in your local wallet will be included in the next update. We are very close now to launching the Helium network so get ready to start your engines, the show is just about to begin.

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TL;DR --

The snapshot will take place on October 10th, at 10AM NZ local time (Cryptopia is a NZ exchange). The block height is 1657200

Does Cryptopia have official statement about this snapshot yet?
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October 07, 2017, 07:50:06 AM
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Antivirus detected malware in spreadcoin dl file spreadcoin32.zip !! any1 else got this ??
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October 07, 2017, 02:30:40 PM
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Antivirus detected malware in spreadcoin dl file spreadcoin32.zip !! any1 else got this ??

Most av programs outside of the default one in windows consider anything related to mining to be a virus.

As long as you obtained the file from a reputable source, you should be okay.  If you didn't... then keep looking.

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October 07, 2017, 04:36:27 PM
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The question is - what kind of malware? Some antiviruses report wallets as "miners", because they can - theoretically - mine (on cpu). In all cases of doubt, it is good to use www.virustotal.com to see what other antiviruses say about this file. This can also help you to choose a good antivirus - the one that don't give false alarms.

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October 08, 2017, 12:28:12 AM
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Where can I register for Airdrop ?
thanks

let me know

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Last edit: October 08, 2017, 01:49:39 AM by sirazimuth
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Where can I register for Airdrop ?
thanks

let me know



You don't need to register my friend...just buy some Spreadcoin on Cryptopia now, and leave it there till after like this coming Tuesday  10/10.
You'll be all good...trust me...

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October 08, 2017, 02:08:09 AM
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snapshot on 10-10 at 10:10:10am  !!   at block 1657200...which divided by 165720 is......10!!!

 cue twilight zone theme....  Grin

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October 08, 2017, 07:24:16 AM
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Need some clarification on getting HLM.
I can just hold my SPR in local wallet to get the airdrop too right?
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October 08, 2017, 07:44:28 AM
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Need some clarification on getting HLM.
I can just hold my SPR in local wallet to get the airdrop too right?

 yes
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October 08, 2017, 07:46:48 AM
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Hi, What The Price For This Coin Please?!! Smiley

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October 08, 2017, 08:02:30 AM
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So even if I hold spreadcoin on my exchange wallet I will still get the reward?
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October 08, 2017, 09:19:18 AM
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Hi, What The Price For This Coin Please?!! Smiley

Thanks

I think it has potential to $10-$15
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October 08, 2017, 09:28:51 AM
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x-post from slack

Q."Can I keep coins on bittrex for snap shot day!" No. We don't advise it.

* Send coins to Cryptopia if you want an exchange to handle the airdrop for you.
* Send coins to your Spreadcoin wallet
* Send coins to a Spreadcoin address where you have access to the private keys, in the event that you have not downloaded the wallet in sufficient time to fully sync the Spreadcoin blockchain.

However, we have made Bittrex aware of the snapshot block height. We have also offered to provide them with support for any coins left on the exchange at the cut off block height because people were away, sick, etc. You will need to open a support request directly with Bittrex and ask them to send us an email, detailing the number of coins they want and your exchange address.

This does not mean you can leave your coins on Bittrex if you want to claim your Helium coins. The only officially supported exchange for the snapshot is Cryptopia. Bittrex involvement at this time is down to their goodwill if you have a problem. We cannot get involved with the process, other than to accept a request directly from Bittrex. You may have to wait a while for your coins to be processed by them and then us.

see #snapshot thread for other questions asked about the snapshot. Please do not post in that channel so people can find answers quickly.

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October 08, 2017, 09:29:55 AM
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"we do not know the full details on either the Cryptopia nor the local wallet method."

RE: CRYPTOPIA

Cryptopia will have a list of all Spreadcoin addresses being used on their exchange and the corresponding balances for each account. They will provide us with a list of addresses and balances which we will cross-check against the snapshot download. When we are in agreement on how many coins are on their exchange, we will send them that number of coins which they will then distribute across your accounts.

We are expecting an internal 'audit' report from them too.

You do not need to do much more than register for an account if you want an exchange to handle your air drop and then send your coins to your account - remember leave plenty of time in case you have a support request for either Cryptopia or Bittrex.

* This is a video on how to create an account on Cryptopia - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22yLz7TgcWQ
* This is a video on how to deposit and withdraw coins to and from Cryptopia https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykWYQ5vZBh0
* There is also a guide on the Cryptopia forums for using their exchange. Trading = https://www.cryptopia.co.nz/Forum/Thread/1389 and Deposits = https://www.cryptopia.co.nz/Forum/Thread/886

see #snapshot thread for other questions asked about the snapshot. Please do not post in that channel so people can find answers quickly.

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October 08, 2017, 09:30:42 AM
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Q. "we do not know the full details on either the Cryptopia nor the local wallet method"

RE: LOCAL WALLET METHOD

At block height 1657200 nothing will happen. That block will come and go. We will not be launching the new Helium chain immediately after.

We will wait several days for the Spreadcoin network to settle down and any transactions that have not confirmed to confirm.

The nature of blockchains is that they fork pretty much every few days. Bitcoin forks roughly twice a week. It is normal and part of the system design as miners battle to produce a block that wins them a block reward, so the network consensus rules kick-in and the nodes on the network agree on which chain is the longest and therefore is the chain they will follow.

This means that if there are two or more chains on the network at any one moment in time, one of them will become the longest and the official chain and the others will die off. Again, this is normal blockchain behaviour and nothing you should be too concerned about.

So from a practical point of view, the snapshot block height comes and goes and we don't suddenly rush into activity. We wait for everything to settle down and then jump into action.

If you have sent coins to your own local wallet, you will be in control of the private keys. You can then ask an escrow to engage with us to allocate you your Helium coins (you may have to pay them a fee and we are only supporting 'smooth' on BCT at the moment, but you can propose someone else); or you can ask us directly if you don't mind us knowing how many coins you have (we won't charge a fee).

* You can sign a message with a Spreadcoin address you control and send us the message confirming your Helium address. This proves that you are in control of that Spreadcoin address and the private keys. We'll look-up that address in the snapshot database and then send you the coins that correspond with that address on the block height. How to sign a message is a video we produced a while back https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mV8l6MPOtSU

* If that is too complicated, you can send one of our team your coins and we will check your balances at the date of the block height and then send back those Spreadcoins and also send you your Helium coins.

All these local wallet support options require you to have a Helium wallet or a Helium address (you could use an address on an exchange, for example). You will not be able to get a Helium address until we have launched the network and provided Windows, Mac and Linux wallets which will be Gitian builds.

Please only follow links to the official wallets from the Bitcoin Talk OP or this slack #announcements thread.

Do not download from any other links.

see #snapshot thread for other questions asked about the snapshot. Please do not post in that channel so people can find answers quickly.

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October 08, 2017, 09:31:33 AM
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Q. "How high will the mining difficulty be at the beginning?"

What a great question.

Bitcoin block 1 was mined 6 days after block 0, the genesis block.

https://blockchain.info/block/000000000019d6689c085ae165831e934ff763ae46a2a6c172b3f1b60a8ce26f
https://blockchain.info/block/00000000839a8e6886ab5951d76f411475428afc90947ee320161bbf18eb6048

Blockchains take a while to come to life, in the case of Bitcoin roughly a week. If there are too many people mining immediately, the network will get into difficulty as the chain is too new and many forks will appear. It has the potential to be a bit of a mess.

This is why we'll keep everyone off the network for a while during which time we'll bring up the difficulty, which is effectively establishing a stable 'longest chain' for everyone to follow.

A while could be 1 week, 2 weeks, possibly 3 weeks. We'll determine when we think its reasonably safe, but with ASICS the start might be a difficult time (no pun intended). You'll get frustrated as hell during this period. Please feel free to take out your frustrations on me and no one else, as everyone else in the team will be working hard to try to get the network stable.

We wont profit from the rewards we'll earn during the closed mining period. We'll probably burn those coins.

We are expecting 2 pools to be up by the time you all get on the network.

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October 08, 2017, 09:32:29 AM
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The block height was selected based on a date and time requested by Cryptopia - I used the requested date and calculated which block height that would fall on.

Spreadcoin has 1 minute blocks, so I worked out how many minutes between a recently issued block and the 10th October at 10am New Zealand time.

The release of blocks is subject to variances. Spreadcoin will release blocks 'approximately' every 1 minute. Over a long period of time, it averages 1 minute, but if have ever watched a block explorer, you'll see that some blocks are produced within seconds of each other and other times blocks are several minutes apart.

Ok, why am I explaining this?

Do not use the 10th October, 10am New Zealand time as the cut off date and time. That is just something you can use to give you an approximation.

The block height 1657200 is the snapshot cut off time and only the 1657200 block height.

If you have never used a block explorer, you might want to take a look now so you can figure out how to use it as a count down timer. You'll only need to do this if you plan on leaving the final location of your Spreadcoins to the very last minute (please don't).

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/spr/

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http://cryptoguru.tk/CurrencyList/index.php?Currency=SPR

NB: The Spreadcoin wallet is the best place to keep track of blocks.

As Bitcoin difficulty has increased, the official release times for each block is 10 minutes, but it has reduced down to closer to 9 or 8 minutes.

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October 08, 2017, 12:33:29 PM
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How to join this airdrop dev?

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October 08, 2017, 01:35:06 PM
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Q."Can I keep coins on bittrex for snap shot day!" No. We don't advise it.
(EXPLAINED... see post)


x-post from slack

"we do not know the full details on either the Cryptopia nor the local wallet method."

RE: CRYPTOPIA
(EXPLAINED...see post)


x-post from slack

Q. "we do not know the full details on either the Cryptopia nor the local wallet method"

RE: LOCAL WALLET METHOD
(EXPLAINED...see post)


x-post from slack

Q. "How high will the mining difficulty be at the beginning?"
(EXPLAINED...see post)


x-post from Slack

The block height was selected based on a date and time requested by Cryptopia - I used the requested date and calculated which block height that would fall on.

Spreadcoin has 1 minute blocks, so I worked out how many minutes between a recently issued block and the 10th October at 10am New Zealand time.
(EXPLAINED...see post)


Thank you Coins101 for cross posting. Great job.Your Helium project looks brilliant.
 And hopefully your quoted posts  will help answer the plethora of repeated questions here...  Wink



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October 08, 2017, 03:49:49 PM
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Just withdrawed my coins from bittrex to cryptobia. Thanks for the announcement.
The x-posts from slack answered all my questions.

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