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August 04, 2017, 02:49:12 PM
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I'm curious about this coin but it's true that the 1:1 rate with Spreadcoin is suspicious. I'm not exactly sure if SPR hodlers want to get out with a more powerful token to compensate their investments or what.

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August 04, 2017, 08:45:28 PM
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I hope they can strike a deal with bittrex for the coin distribution or at least give us enough time to withdraw the coins. However still no official announcement about the postponed snapshot date Sad

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August 04, 2017, 11:09:28 PM
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You guy's know Helium is just an escape vehicle for Spreadcoin bag holders? Do some research.

https://github.com/spreadcoin/spreadcoin

Why would a developer fork this s@*t?

Only sensible reason behind it is so Spreadcoin bag holders are able to finally have a large stake in a masternode token.

Spreadcoin $1 now, nearing $10 marketcap... with the prospect of above code and masternodes?

Wow.


Over two years Georgem lied.



Read the link page to see why helium appears.



https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1045373.5480

I know exactly what happened, I have a little history with SPR.
And there's nothing wrong with what the Helium team are doing, I just personally feel
that everyone should know the real reason Helium is a fork of SPR and not a completely new token (So the large SPR holders can have a controlling stake and manage the project how they want).
Nothing wrong with that but the community should know the true motives here.

The SPR code is old and needs serious core development work, take a look.
I'm open to any reasoning as to why the Helium team would fork SPR, but it's pretty obvious from my perspective.

I don't think any of this is hidden to prospective investors. All one need is a little research and this info is quite apparent. And they are utilizing airdrop for the helium, which I can appreciate. I have seen similar incidents where the developer had an ico or an ipo to distribute the coin but in their case, they are sharing the wealth with the prior investors. Also, if spread had the original idea for a masternode but didn't deploy it and the idea was hijacked and utilized efficiently by dash, i wouldn't blame majority shareholders from wanting to create a separate situation. It's almost akin to majority stock shareholders ousting the owner of a company if he/she is underperforming in the role as a leader.

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August 05, 2017, 12:20:30 AM
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Undecided

You guy's know Helium is just an escape vehicle for Spreadcoin bag holders? Do some research.

https://github.com/spreadcoin/spreadcoin

Why would a developer fork this s@*t?

Only sensible reason behind it is so Spreadcoin bag holders are able to finally have a large stake in a masternode token.

Spreadcoin $1 now, nearing $10 marketcap... with the prospect of above code and masternodes?

Wow.

So you still waiting for that?

Are people still paying him monthly for the "use" of his new wallet?

I guess we need to leave the talk of SPR in the SPR thread and leave this for HLM discussion.


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August 05, 2017, 12:26:50 AM
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Undecided

You guy's know Helium is just an escape vehicle for Spreadcoin bag holders? Do some research.

https://github.com/spreadcoin/spreadcoin

Why would a developer fork this s@*t?

Only sensible reason behind it is so Spreadcoin bag holders are able to finally have a large stake in a masternode token.

Spreadcoin $1 now, nearing $10 marketcap... with the prospect of above code and masternodes?

Wow.


Over two years Georgem lied.



Read the link page to see why helium appears.



https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1045373.5480

I know exactly what happened, I have a little history with SPR.
And there's nothing wrong with what the Helium team are doing, I just personally feel
that everyone should know the real reason Helium is a fork of SPR and not a completely new token (So the large SPR holders can have a controlling stake and manage the project how they want).
Nothing wrong with that but the community should know the true motives here.

The SPR code is old and needs serious core development work, take a look.
I'm open to any reasoning as to why the Helium team would fork SPR, but it's pretty obvious from my perspective.




Its less of a fork, more of a movement in a different direction since the fork will actually be of the dash code not SPR code. I think choosing to fork off an existing coin that had potential  before developers ruined it and help keep the promise the coin was supposed to be isnt a bad idea. I like it better than an ICO or a premine, the coin is still very inexpensive in the grand scheme of things with the marketcap below 10 million so there is still time for people who want to get in. I like where this coin is going personally, it is okay to criticize it though, I see what apprehensions you might have.

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August 05, 2017, 07:16:22 AM
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I'm trying to get the word out about the snapshot.

https://steemit.com/bitcoincash/@thomas.hughson/you-got-your-free-bitcoin-cash-here-s-how-another-upcoming-snapshot-of-spreadcoin-will-get-you-more-free-coins
Repost to help out.
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Smiley A beautiful and reliable team. Smiley helium has projected one of the latest technologies. Good luck. I follow social media.

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August 05, 2017, 09:20:55 AM
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Undecided

You guy's know Helium is just an escape vehicle for Spreadcoin bag holders? Do some research.

https://github.com/spreadcoin/spreadcoin

Why would a developer fork this s@*t?

Only sensible reason behind it is so Spreadcoin bag holders are able to finally have a large stake in a masternode token.

Spreadcoin $1 now, nearing $10 marketcap... with the prospect of above code and masternodes?

Wow.


Over two years Georgem lied.



Read the link page to see why helium appears.



https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1045373.5480

I know exactly what happened, I have a little history with SPR.
And there's nothing wrong with what the Helium team are doing, I just personally feel
that everyone should know the real reason Helium is a fork of SPR and not a completely new token (So the large SPR holders can have a controlling stake and manage the project how they want).
Nothing wrong with that but the community should know the true motives here.

The SPR code is old and needs serious core development work, take a look.
I'm open to any reasoning as to why the Helium team would fork SPR, but it's pretty obvious from my perspective.

I don't exactly know why you are coming in here and spreading misinformation. But you are highly incorrect. HLM won't be a fork of Spreadcoin. It will be a snapshot of Spreadcoin and will be a hardfork of Dash until it moves away from Dash when Service Nodes are developed.

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August 05, 2017, 11:21:45 AM
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Undecided

You guy's know Helium is just an escape vehicle for Spreadcoin bag holders? Do some research.

https://github.com/spreadcoin/spreadcoin

Why would a developer fork this s@*t?

Only sensible reason behind it is so Spreadcoin bag holders are able to finally have a large stake in a masternode token.

Spreadcoin $1 now, nearing $10 marketcap... with the prospect of above code and masternodes?

Wow.


Over two years Georgem lied.



Read the link page to see why helium appears.



https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1045373.5480

I know exactly what happened, I have a little history with SPR.
And there's nothing wrong with what the Helium team are doing, I just personally feel
that everyone should know the real reason Helium is a fork of SPR and not a completely new token (So the large SPR holders can have a controlling stake and manage the project how they want).
Nothing wrong with that but the community should know the true motives here.

The SPR code is old and needs serious core development work, take a look.
I'm open to any reasoning as to why the Helium team would fork SPR, but it's pretty obvious from my perspective.

I don't exactly know why you are coming in here and spreading misinformation. But you are highly incorrect. HLM won't be a fork of Spreadcoin. It will be a snapshot of Spreadcoin and will be a hardfork of Dash until it moves away from Dash when Service Nodes are developed.

Semantics.

Snapshot of the chain so you guys can import your private keys over to Helium blockchain.
Why not just fork Dash and start over?


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August 05, 2017, 11:46:56 AM
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Undecided

You guy's know Helium is just an escape vehicle for Spreadcoin bag holders? Do some research.

https://github.com/spreadcoin/spreadcoin

Why would a developer fork this s@*t?

Only sensible reason behind it is so Spreadcoin bag holders are able to finally have a large stake in a masternode token.

Spreadcoin $1 now, nearing $10 marketcap... with the prospect of above code and masternodes?

Wow.


Over two years Georgem lied.



Read the link page to see why helium appears.



https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1045373.5480

I know exactly what happened, I have a little history with SPR.
And there's nothing wrong with what the Helium team are doing, I just personally feel
that everyone should know the real reason Helium is a fork of SPR and not a completely new token (So the large SPR holders can have a controlling stake and manage the project how they want).
Nothing wrong with that but the community should know the true motives here.

The SPR code is old and needs serious core development work, take a look.
I'm open to any reasoning as to why the Helium team would fork SPR, but it's pretty obvious from my perspective.

I don't exactly know why you are coming in here and spreading misinformation. But you are highly incorrect. HLM won't be a fork of Spreadcoin. It will be a snapshot of Spreadcoin and will be a hardfork of Dash until it moves away from Dash when Service Nodes are developed.

Semantics.

Snapshot of the chain so you guys can import your private keys over to Helium blockchain.
Why not just fork Dash and start over?



It's not semantics when your main point was about the codebase being old?

Coins has made a post about why the split is being done the way it is. It is in the OP. But clearly you don't care to read and instead want to spread misinformation.

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August 05, 2017, 01:03:29 PM
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Undecided

You guy's know Helium is just an escape vehicle for Spreadcoin bag holders? Do some research.

https://github.com/spreadcoin/spreadcoin

Why would a developer fork this s@*t?

Only sensible reason behind it is so Spreadcoin bag holders are able to finally have a large stake in a masternode token.

Spreadcoin $1 now, nearing $10 marketcap... with the prospect of above code and masternodes?

Wow.


Over two years Georgem lied.



Read the link page to see why helium appears.



https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1045373.5480

I know exactly what happened, I have a little history with SPR.
And there's nothing wrong with what the Helium team are doing, I just personally feel
that everyone should know the real reason Helium is a fork of SPR and not a completely new token (So the large SPR holders can have a controlling stake and manage the project how they want).
Nothing wrong with that but the community should know the true motives here.

The SPR code is old and needs serious core development work, take a look.
I'm open to any reasoning as to why the Helium team would fork SPR, but it's pretty obvious from my perspective.

I don't exactly know why you are coming in here and spreading misinformation. But you are highly incorrect. HLM won't be a fork of Spreadcoin. It will be a snapshot of Spreadcoin and will be a hardfork of Dash until it moves away from Dash when Service Nodes are developed.

Semantics.

Snapshot of the chain so you guys can import your private keys over to Helium blockchain.
Why not just fork Dash and start over?



It's not semantics when your main point was about the codebase being old?

Coins has made a post about why the split is being done the way it is. It is in the OP. But clearly you don't care to read and instead want to spread misinformation.

Sorry, this confused me

Spreadcoin > HLM economic fork

The only 'Fork' is that of Dash>HLM. The only reason SPR is mentioned is to import SPR Private keys to HLM.
Again so large holders from SPR can have a majority stake in the project.

This isn't a Fork of SPR>HLM, HLM is a new Alt with a large pre-mine/instamine.
And will propably retain "Non premined status", great.

Worse than I originally thought.

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August 05, 2017, 04:37:02 PM
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Undecided

You guy's know Helium is just an escape vehicle for Spreadcoin bag holders? Do some research.

https://github.com/spreadcoin/spreadcoin

Why would a developer fork this s@*t?

Only sensible reason behind it is so Spreadcoin bag holders are able to finally have a large stake in a masternode token.

Spreadcoin $1 now, nearing $10 marketcap... with the prospect of above code and masternodes?

Wow.


Over two years Georgem lied.



Read the link page to see why helium appears.



https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1045373.5480

I know exactly what happened, I have a little history with SPR.
And there's nothing wrong with what the Helium team are doing, I just personally feel
that everyone should know the real reason Helium is a fork of SPR and not a completely new token (So the large SPR holders can have a controlling stake and manage the project how they want).
Nothing wrong with that but the community should know the true motives here.

The SPR code is old and needs serious core development work, take a look.
I'm open to any reasoning as to why the Helium team would fork SPR, but it's pretty obvious from my perspective.

I don't exactly know why you are coming in here and spreading misinformation. But you are highly incorrect. HLM won't be a fork of Spreadcoin. It will be a snapshot of Spreadcoin and will be a hardfork of Dash until it moves away from Dash when Service Nodes are developed.

Semantics.

Snapshot of the chain so you guys can import your private keys over to Helium blockchain.
Why not just fork Dash and start over?



It's not semantics when your main point was about the codebase being old?

Coins has made a post about why the split is being done the way it is. It is in the OP. But clearly you don't care to read and instead want to spread misinformation.

Sorry, this confused me

Spreadcoin > HLM economic fork

The only 'Fork' is that of Dash>HLM. The only reason SPR is mentioned is to import SPR Private keys to HLM.
Again so large holders from SPR can have a majority stake in the project.

This isn't a Fork of SPR>HLM, HLM is a new Alt with a large pre-mine/instamine.
And will propably retain "Non premined status", great.

Worse than I originally thought.

The Spreadcoin to Helium switch is nothing more than a community based effort to change the direction of a project. Not much different from a hardfork, in principle. Do you believe if a community wants to take a coin in a different direction (after spending loads of time, energy and money) should just leave and make their own brand new coin from scratch? Most people invested in Spreadcoin (well, at least I did) because of Coins101's ideas and whitepapers. I and a number of other people spent time and money (donating to Georgem) with the expectation that Georgem would deliver on those ideas. Alas, he hasn't, and won't, because the whitepapers aren't in line with his ideology. That wasn't made clear initially though, because until the end of last year, the community was told everything was being worked on highly diligently... I don't need to explain this to you... you know.

As you have said, a hardfork is not technically feasible because the Spreadcoin codebase is so old. So the only other option without just ditching everything  is to fork a working coinbase and continue the community and ideas elsewhere with a competent developement team that will work inline with what the community here has invested in (Service Nodes).

I appreciate that you are allowed to have your grievances and your questions / skepticisms. But I can't respect the way you have brought them up as you made false claims and accusations from the very start.

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You guy's know Helium is just an escape vehicle for Spreadcoin bag holders? Do some research.

https://github.com/spreadcoin/spreadcoin

Why would a developer fork this s@*t?

Only sensible reason behind it is so Spreadcoin bag holders are able to finally have a large stake in a masternode token.

Spreadcoin $1 now, nearing $10 marketcap... with the prospect of above code and masternodes?

Wow.


Over two years Georgem lied.



Read the link page to see why helium appears.



https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1045373.5480

I know exactly what happened, I have a little history with SPR.
And there's nothing wrong with what the Helium team are doing, I just personally feel
that everyone should know the real reason Helium is a fork of SPR and not a completely new token (So the large SPR holders can have a controlling stake and manage the project how they want).
Nothing wrong with that but the community should know the true motives here.

The SPR code is old and needs serious core development work, take a look.
I'm open to any reasoning as to why the Helium team would fork SPR, but it's pretty obvious from my perspective.

I don't exactly know why you are coming in here and spreading misinformation. But you are highly incorrect. HLM won't be a fork of Spreadcoin. It will be a snapshot of Spreadcoin and will be a hardfork of Dash until it moves away from Dash when Service Nodes are developed.

Semantics.

Snapshot of the chain so you guys can import your private keys over to Helium blockchain.
Why not just fork Dash and start over?



It's not semantics when your main point was about the codebase being old?

Coins has made a post about why the split is being done the way it is. It is in the OP. But clearly you don't care to read and instead want to spread misinformation.

Sorry, this confused me

Spreadcoin > HLM economic fork

The only 'Fork' is that of Dash>HLM. The only reason SPR is mentioned is to import SPR Private keys to HLM.
Again so large holders from SPR can have a majority stake in the project.

This isn't a Fork of SPR>HLM, HLM is a new Alt with a large pre-mine/instamine.
And will propably retain "Non premined status", great.

Worse than I originally thought.

The Spreadcoin to Helium switch is nothing more than a community based effort to change the direction of a project. Not much different from a hardfork, in principle. Do you believe if a community wants to take a coin in a different direction (after spending loads of time, energy and money) should just leave and make their own brand new coin from scratch? Most people invested in Spreadcoin (well, at least I did) because of Coins101's ideas and whitepapers. I and a number of other people spent time and money (donating to Georgem) with the expectation that Georgem would deliver on those ideas. Alas, he hasn't, and won't, because the whitepapers aren't in line with his ideology. That wasn't made clear initially though, because until the end of last year, the community was told everything was being worked on highly diligently... I don't need to explain this to you... you know.

As you have said, a hardfork is not technically feasible because the Spreadcoin codebase is so old. So the only other option without just ditching everything  is to fork a working coinbase and continue the community and ideas elsewhere with a competent developement team that will work inline with what the community here has invested in (Service Nodes).

I appreciate that you are allowed to have your grievances and your questions / skepticisms. But I can't respect the way you have brought them up as you made false claims and accusations from the very start.

Don't disregard everything I said from a little mistake I made from being confused by the Helium OP. I also see a bit of confusion from a few guys in here so its not just me. I should have done 5 mins more research to find  that SPR is not the fork but Dash.

I appreciate you being open about the project and why you guys decided to do what you did.
This just needs to be completely obvious to your community, probably in the OP.

The method of distribution still concerns me and should others.
Even Pre-mine is better than snapshit because all development funds are public.

I do wish you guys good luck and hope we can work together in the future when HLM is established more

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August 05, 2017, 08:21:57 PM
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I'm a new investor of helium via spread. Everything was clearly stated to me in op and I understood exactly what it meant. Yes there will be people who have a lot of helium at the start. This is all coming from their investment in spread over time though. So to me it's completely fair and they are honest about it. Heck even coins has stated he has 20,000-30,000 to fund the bittrex listing. I'm just glad to be getting in early on what I believe is going to be a great project.
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If I buy 1000 spreadcoin now, can I use this as a HLM masternode?
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August 07, 2017, 12:05:09 AM
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If I buy 1000 spreadcoin now, can I use this as a HLM masternode?

Yes, just have to wait till you get HLM.
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August 07, 2017, 02:44:28 AM
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If I buy 1000 spreadcoin now, can I use this as a HLM masternode?

Yes, just have to wait till you get HLM.

Thanks! Bought in right now before it goes to the moon.
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August 07, 2017, 06:00:50 AM
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For all the FUD i'd like to point out that HLM made the announcement of snapshotting SPR quite some time ago.  I'm not a LONG-term SPR holder but I did buy some early in the Summer for less than half the current price on spec for HLM.  Those who are just now seeing/realizing this project just weren't paying enough attention.

With the amount of time they gave tgere was PLENTY of opportunity for anyone to participate.

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August 07, 2017, 07:13:38 AM
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For all the FUD i'd like to point out that HLM made the announcement of snapshotting SPR quite some time ago.  I'm not a LONG-term SPR holder but I did buy some early in the Summer for less than half the current price on spec for HLM.  Those who are just now seeing/realizing this project just weren't paying enough attention.

With the amount of time they gave tgere was PLENTY of opportunity for anyone to participate.

Wait does that mean that my recently bought SPR will not be converted to HLM?
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August 07, 2017, 07:19:52 AM
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For all the FUD i'd like to point out that HLM made the announcement of snapshotting SPR quite some time ago.  I'm not a LONG-term SPR holder but I did buy some early in the Summer for less than half the current price on spec for HLM.  Those who are just now seeing/realizing this project just weren't paying enough attention.

With the amount of time they gave tgere was PLENTY of opportunity for anyone to participate.

Wait does that mean that my recently bought SPR will not be converted to HLM?

NVM I've just reread the main post, I think I'm still included Smiley
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